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The Man Up North wrote: Agreed on that Tim -- although I think Crystal could work better later in this set if the synth intro was skipped and the song started off directly with the drums.
Quite right sir. It's the drawn out fifteen minute droney synth that makes it the opener, get rid of that and you have a song that is listenable. Maybe my CD player is stuck.
Someone asked about what the T-shirts looked like. The guy in front of me had one on and it shows New Order 2005 Tour and lists: San Francisco, Cochella Festival, Chicago and New York. Apparently they either don't draw a distinction between Oakland and S.F. or it looked better on the T-Shirt.
To the poster that had a less enjoyable outing due to the older fan who harassed him and belittled him that he would know much of NO at all, I can only say that Jerks are Jerks no matter how old or young they are. Being of the older set, I was glad to see how many from all ages were into the band. This site especially highlights the great enthusiasm of their fans. I hope NO stays around another 20 years.
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cheetos poop wrote: I was surprised that I dropped $30 for a shirt, too but they were too sweet to pass up.
Could you, or anyone else, post a picture of the T-Shirt(s) they were selling. Haven't seen the merchandise articles...
They had more than a few shirts for sale:
A white tee with "No" on the front in orange (just like the new album cover), and tour dates on the back, under the heading "New Order North American Tour 2005";
Same as above, but a black tee with white lettering;
A blue tee resembling the 1987 True Faith record sleeve, with "New Order - True Faith" on the reverse;
A green tee resembling the Fac 33 Ceremony/In a Lonely Place record sleeve (nothing on the tee reverse);
A black tee resembling the Unknown Pleasures record sleeve, with "Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures" on the reverse.
They also had four tiny buttons (quarter-sized) for $10 a set, all of album covers -- two of which were, IIRC, Technique and Substance.
Robert Roy wrote: Here is my humble review of the concert at the Aragon last night. This was my 6th time seeing them, and I must say it was probably the best show I have ever seen. I could only fly out to one show this go-round, and I am glad I picked the Chicago show to attend, because it was probably the best yet of this tour.
First off, the venue reminded me a lot of the Alexandra Palace in London where I saw them play New Year’s eve 1998. Old gothic style, acoustics not so great. Crowd was well behaved, very little jostling. I was right up front, off to stage right (i.e., Phil’s side).
They came on looking poised, relaxed and confident. Barney thanked the crowd, and apologized that he was not so mobile tonight because of his foot injury. He jokingly said he hurt it while surfing in Los Angeles, bitten by a shark! (Of course I knew that he had hurt it while doing his jig during BLT in Oakland).
The set list posted by Nerve is correct. Great set list! Love Vigilantes was a great opener, crowd loved it, I love that melodica. After the song, Barney said something like it was about Vietnam, where he had served… as a photographer. Barney was very nice to the crowd, lots of joking banter between songs, which I (and the crowd) appreciated. I couldn’t catch all of it though, because he didn’t always speak right into the mic. He was generally very relaxed, thanked the crowd for their support. He said it had been too long since they had been to Chicago. He jokingly said he would come more often but these two f**kers (pointing at Hooky and Phil) don’t like to tour!! Of course we know Barney is the one who doesn’t like to tour. He also mentioned that they were getting happier as they got older, they were no longer the miserable sods of youth. He said he liked Chicago, cold like Manchester, not too hot like LA.
Crystal and Regret were great. HNYWD was OK, the crowd was not familiar with it, which is understandable since it’s only been out a week here. Krafty was better, more people seemed to know it. (I know the new album well). Transmission was great live!
Barney introduced Run Wild half-apologizing that it was a slow love song, but he wanted to play it because he thought it was a good song. Although I think it’s a bit too sappy, admittedly live it came across much better. It was kinda unique to see Hooky play a love song. They played the 98 version of True faith, as they have been doing since then. There seemed to be a technical glitch with the drums here. I saw Steve trying to get his tech’s attention before the song, saying his drums were cut out. I think that the main drum line is programmed for this song, but he would normally supplement it with some live drumming, but they turned off the mics on his drum set, so you couldn’t hear the live drumming for this song. It was kind of distracting but it sounded good anyway. Jetstream was good, although the backing female vocals were canned. They played it like on the French show a few weeks ago. WFTSC, best song on the new album, was good live, although Krafty maybe came across best of the new stuff. I think Barney had his own backing vocals canned for Sirens, which was a bit distracting. Maybe Hooky should try doing the backing vocals here….
I have to go catch my plane, so I will post part 2 of my review later…
Thank you very much, very appreciated.
Same setlist as the show in Oakland but with one glaringly big difference! Your Silent Face, my favorite song! I'm so upset I missed this.
I don't remember when they hit the stage, but there was nearly no deadtime between the Assassins and NO. By the way, Assassins are a local Chicago act from what I've heard, and they were one of the best warm-up acts I've seen. I'd see them stand-alone. They used synths and the drummer used synthetic drums that recall to me dripping water/"poing"ing sound. And it all came together for a great effect. Also liked the dual guy/girl vocals.
Anyway, about NO. Funny thing about the tour shirt saying SanFran instead of Oakland - my dad noticed that Stephen had a skull and crossbones shirt on. After he realized they were in Oakland (where we used to live) he goes "oh, he must have gotten a Raiders shirt." Thought that was kinda funny. Looked like it. I ended up with the black No 2005 tour shirt - liked the white/orange print one better, but I bet I'd stain it soon with chili dog or something. Also wearing the TF leaf one now. I've got measly camera pics, I'll be trying to pass them along soon.
Obsessed fan seeing them for the first time point of view: FUCKING. AWESOME.
Yeah, Barney's jokes were lame, and it's weird to see him dancing like such an old fart, but man, it was fun. I stood right in front of the right speaker, and all I gotta say is, Hooky is the man. Growing up, I was completely in love with Bernard Sumner, but last night, I couldn't take my eyes off Peter Hook. All those bass lines that drove so many NO songs - it was so cool to see them played up close, right in front of me. I was oddly mesmerized.
I enjoyed the whole show, but the highlights for me were the opener (obviously), Temptation, and Your Silent Face (!!!). I enjoyed Crystal, Regret, and a couple of the new songs more than I expected. When they came out for the encore, everybody around me started screaming for Blue Monday. The band wanted the audience to "vote" on the encore song - Atmosphere vs. YSF. Are you kidding me? Atmosphere w/out Ian? No way. YSF all the way. I had to tell the girl next to me that YSF was a way better choice than BM, too 
Luckily, they played both songs, and then busted out BM as a surprise. I'm so glad they played a longer encore than at other shows.
An added bonus: The people around me were all really nice. I wonder if any of them post here b/c they seemed obsessed enough to One of them will hopefully be sending me his cellphone pics, too.
Lowlight of the show: Some fucker stole my setlist at the end. I begged a roadie for the last setlist on the stage - Stephen's. He threw it down to me, and a security guard got in my way from grabbing it off the floor, giving some dude (I hate Some Dude 
) just the second he needed to grab it as I reached the floor. I followed him and said, "Can I at least see the setlist you just stole from me?" And he showed it to me without an ounce of sympathy. Fucker
All in all, a fun night :)
JenBurgess wrote: Same setlist as the show in Oakland but with one glaringly big difference! Your Silent Face, my favorite song! I'm so upset I missed this.
Yeah, for "encore" it was both Atmosphere then YSF. Then BM. And they were in a really great mood. Lots of banter and joking around, with corny rimshots by Stephen. So good to see that. Said that Chicago was one of their fav's cos its so like Manchester: cold and not hot like LA. Barney's foot wasn't stopping him from spinning during BLT or TF either.
Yeah, Assassins were good and a good match for NO. I saw them open for Zwan some time ago and was impressed. I'm not sure they even have a proper album out yet. I'm assuming Joe Shanahan or Billy Corgan hooked them up with NO. Good for them.
It's good to hear it went so well. I have heard good things about Assassins. They opened one of the nights that Zwan played at Metro in January 2003. I got to see one of those shows, but not the one where Assassins opened up for them. Anyways, when I saw New Order was playing Chicago at the Aragon, I really want to come and see the show, but to no avail. I had an exam yesterday, so I couldn't fly out there even if I wanted to. What was more salt in the wound was that Garbage is playing tonight at Metro. Luckily I got to see Garbage last week in Toronto, which was fantastic. Metro is a good venue, and it would been great to see back to back shows at Aragon and Metro, not to mention the Smart Bar Peter Hook DJ set. But if you are a fan of both Garbage and New Order, and love Chicago as much as I do, that would have been one fantastic trip! Oh well.
David, methinks it was time for you to beg Joe Shanahan for that one last favor
(I'm an Act IV geek :) )
lovevigilante wrote: Obsessed fan seeing them for the first time point of view: FUCKING. AWESOME.
Yeah, Barney's jokes were lame, and it's weird to see him dancing like such an old fart, but man, it was fun. I stood right in front of the right speaker, and all I gotta say is, Hooky is the man. Growing up, I was completely in love with Bernard Sumner, but last night, I couldn't take my eyes off Peter Hook. All those bass lines that drove so many NO songs - it was so cool to see them played up close, right in front of me. I was oddly mesmerized.
An added bonus: The people around me were all really nice. I wonder if any of them post here b/c they seemed obsessed enough to
(I hate Some Dude
All in all, a fun night :)
Haha, yeah i was talking to a nice girl from Mexico City about the weird effect concerts have one people to go against eachother. How more passive can you get than a No fan? I was up on the right side too. Did you get a load of those Brits? I was right beside them. I was mesmerized by Hooky too. Did you catch a glimpse of him leaning over the lightboard during the warm-up? I tried not to make a scene. I've got cellphone pics of him over there if you want em. It was amazing to see so many young people there like me- i'll be 20 in a week. I was seeing them for the first time, and loved it!
I actually wasn't sure which ones were the Brits. I might not have been able to see them b/c I'm short! But it was nice that they got a shout-out from Barney.
I don't think I saw Hooky leaning over the lightboard, but damn did I wish I had a camera for that show. He played half the show right in front of my face! (I was a little further to the right than you - I think you were in front of his normal place on stage, and I was in front of the spot where he played to the crowd, so to speak.) I'd love to see your pics. My email is love_vigil_ante@yahoo.com if you can send 'em. Thank you! :)
All,
Please email or post pics from last nights show: chicago_gal_950@earthlink.net
Thank you!! Still basking in the afterglow...
Hey, what was the deal with the metal detectors if anything? Could you sneak in a digital camera and take pictures?
I don't think they have metal detectors. The Aragon just doesn't allow cameras most of the time. I think I saw only one flash go off the whole night, so I'm assuming the only pics taken were professional, phonecams, or disposables without flash.
nerve wrote: Here's the set list from tonight, in order:
Love Vigilantes Crystal Regret Hey Now What You Doing Krafty Transmission True Faith Run Wild Jetstream Waiting for the Sirens' Call Bizarre Love Triangle Love Will Tear Us Apart Temptation
Encore: Atmosphere Your Silent Face Blue Monday
Great show. Even better than I expected.
As one of those who always has something bad to say about their setlists since about '89 onwards, this right here looks like they kind of nailed it. Of course, I've got personal favorites that they probably won't ever play again, but this looks like about a pretty good balance of promoting their new album (4 tracks), giving a nod to their origins (3JD tracks thogh I could probably go with one less) and a few fan favorites (LV and YSF). And even though I can't imagine Run Wild knocking anyone out (I'd love to see Dream Attack with this current lineup here maybe), it's kind of cool that they're willing to pull it out and give it a try. They probably haven't had a similarly paced song in their setlist since We all stand. I was never really that sorry that I missed them last go around based partly on the setlists and also on the fact that I really couldn't get into the last record, but that set right there to me ranks up there with the '98 Apollo show as probably the best set of tunes they've pulled out on one night since the 80s. Now if they'd just replace Blue Monday with The Perfect Kiss then it'd really be on...
amazing show. i've been a fan for many years now. i almost lost it during love vigilantes and transmission. then again during the encore. the whole night was just amazing. don't know about that opener tho. 
i just hope the guy with the recording device implanted in his hat comes 'round here. wires hanging down the back of your neck are a dead giveaway. 
This was one of the best Concerts from NO I've seen. He was on track. Also got to see Hook on Monday at the smart bar. Neo was also awsome. I eneded winning 1 of two CD's with all the groups autograph. Took many pics at smartbar and at the concert. there should be a page here where we can download pics for each place they went on tour. What ya think Spotnick, The guy with the Hacienda shirt!
The only thing that appears missing would be songs off of "Technique", and as someone else mentioned, apparently they dont have any of that albums material programmed. Hard to believe that this is the one album they wouldn't do work on considering at least among American Audiences, its probably what broke them in this country (I believe they got Qwest in '85 or '86, and it was Technique and "Round and Round" which followed the club hits, Blue Monday, True Faith, and Blue Monday 1988, that really seemed to attract their core American Audience). Oh well, you can't have everything you want, it just bums me a bit that my fav album by far has not really been touched on at all in either of the concerts I attended.
Stephen Smith wrote: The only thing that appears missing would be songs off of "Technique", and as someone else mentioned, apparently they dont have any of that albums material programmed. Hard to believe that this is the one album they wouldn't do work on considering at least among American Audiences, its probably what broke them in this country (I believe they got Qwest in '85 or '86, and it was Technique and "Round and Round" which followed the club hits, Blue Monday, True Faith, and Blue Monday 1988, that really seemed to attract their core American Audience). Oh well, you can't have everything you want, it just bums me a bit that my fav album by far has not really been touched on at all in either of the concerts I attended.
I would say that Substance was the album that actually "broke" 'em here, but your point about Technique is well taken. Strange that it's adored by critics and fans alike, yet largely ignored by the band lately (in live sets and box sets alike).
The show was fucking incredible. I've only seen the band one other time, and that was at a giant outdoor amphitheater in '93 (and we all know how that tour was). I never dreamed I'd see the band in a venue smaller than 10,000 people, and now I have. I can excuse the shitty venue they played in because I was 50 feet away from the stage. My only regrets were in the song selection (no SLC/Ceremony/other old stuff), but since they're pushing 50 years old they've earned the right to play what they want to play. I was sort of sated, though, because they played YSF and that ranks in my top 5 if not top 3 NO songs...
They were in fine talkative form, and Barney seemed full of jokes. Funny thing was Steve treated them like a lounge act, doing the "Badum-cha" rimshot thing on the drums after Barney's jokes - something I've never heard them do before.
Steve kicked off HNWYD too fast, leading Barney to comment afterwards that it was the punk version because Steve's on too much crystal meth and hotel pornography ;) Steve's on crystal meth and addicted to hotel pornography
As the primate said, Hooky dedicated Transmission to Joe Shanahan (the owner of Metro/Smart Bar/Double Door) "because he makes Chicago feel like home for me".
I didn't go to any of the pre/post show affairs because my wife was with me and she doesn't get into the whole NO thing, though she was glad to have gone (she wanted them to play more of the hits, of course - she's the "fan" they continue to play BM/BLT/Temptation/True Faith/etc for).
I was more up front-and-center while she stood near the back of the venue - right next to Sean Hayes of course! He's the actor who plays Jack on the TV show "Will and Grace" and I went to high school with him. She's now had her requisite celebrity sighting at the Aragon - mine was John Cusack 15 years ago at a Sonic Youth/Public Enemy show there.
Setlist:
Love Vigilantes Crystal Regret Hey Now What You Doing Krafty Transmission True Faith Run Wild Jetstream Waiting For The Sirens' Call Bizarre Love Triangle Love Will Tear Us Apart Temptation ---encore break--- Atmosphere Your Silent Face Blue Monday
I have a feeling a recording of this gig will be on www.dimeadozen.org in the not so distant future...
Drew
edit: fixed URL, should work now ;)
lovevigilante wrote: David, methinks it was time for you to beg Joe Shanahan for that one last favor
(I'm an Act IV geek :) )
One last favor? If that included a flight to Chicago and tickets to show, I don't think that would have happened :P. Would I know you Love Vigilante? Like have we ever met or talked online related to Act IV?
I am hoping a Billy Corgan show is on when I do come to Chicago, which will be between June 30 and July 3rd. My brother and I's history with Metro was able to get secure us after show passes when we returned to Chicago in January 2003 for the final of 5 Zwan shows there, but it didn't result in another Act IV. Joe basically told us last year that the only way we would be able to do a final show was if he were able to get a big headliner like Kill Hannah to play again at the show. And the only way that can happen is if it was some sort of special anniversary for the band. So the only way another one is happening is if we can guarantee a sell out.
But anyways, back to New Order. Is there an audio recording of the show floating around somewhere?
David Pukin wrote: But anyways, back to New Order. Is there an audio recording of the show floating around somewhere?
Funny you ask... Chicago show torrent at dimeadozen.org
Rock on ;)
Drew
Thnak you. I had two tickets and ever intention of being there but my wife's car took a $800 shit on Friday wiping out the money we needed to use fr the drive and party and getting the kids to Grandma's. This is the second time I had to eat New Order tickets for a Chicago show.
drewc wrote:
David Pukin wrote: But anyways, back to New Order. Is there an audio recording of the show floating around somewhere?
Funny you ask... Chicago show torrent at dimeadozen.org
Rock on ;)
Drew
Nice one Drew! Now all we need is the video of Barney dancing during BLT!!!
Hey, for those of us there early enough, how about that music? My ears perked up when I heard an Enjoy the Silence mix, Some Pet Shop Boys, Pulp, Blur...and even a Pink Floyd Comfortably Numb female-sung uber-mix? Or am I just losing it?
Great show. I'm glad I went. I'd only seen the Corgan festival version of the band before, so I was happy to see a full, headline set.
The venue was great, it was very interesting walking around before it was filled up looking at the details.
Too many people around me only knew the very popular songs. Almost all of them were lost when the new songs were played. $50.00 is a lot of money when you only know four songs, but they were there and they were enthusiastic. They were also very drunk. That's what I get for planting myself near one of the bars.
My only complaint was that I didn't get to any of the NOOL events. I was in and out of Chicago so quickly that I didn't have time to do much else.
Thanks to everybody else who is posting a review, it's interesting to read others' opinions about the show.
