NOOL Day - Two decisions. Decision 1

driving? trailing our lazy asses kicking and screaming :) fair play to the man.

the thought that I get to make a big noise, half a fucking ball with all you guys AND put a few quid in a deserving pocket makes me quite giddy actually:)

craig's digitalwaters wrote: If NOOL is financially stable then it's COOL!

and mucho respect to you for driving this forward.

It's more a case of NOOL's funding coming from different, and international sources. A number of us across the world have contributed financially to NOOL, and will continue to do so. Merchandising also brings in revenue to pay the hosting fees. No doubt Spotnick will advise on other sources of income.

The purposes of this NOOL Day are to do our bit collectively for a charitable cause, as well as having a great time. As previously said, most of our lives have been affected in some way by cancer, and I feel that doing the event we plan this way can make a positive contribution, and shows our resolve in trying to help.

There's a lot to do with the planning and organisation of this event. We've made a good start, but there is always more to do. With everyone's help and determination to succeed, we will have a memorable day.

The sort of thing I am looking for now is support from businesses - things like van hire companies, printers, even PA hire companies. If anyone works for any such firm and can persuade the bosses that they will be supporting a very worthwhile cause (and will be able to offset tax on Gift Aid, etc), then please let me know. They will be well rewarded in the advertising. I'd be especially grateful to hear from PA hire firms!

Just a suggestion....

Is it possible to have a locked sticky at the top of the forum which you can edit as we go along;

-stating what's been decided -what's needed and -what's still being decided...

then you could have spin off threads (as you've got now) with comments (from all and sundry) relating to the decision making process...

Then people who are easily confused (like me) have one place where they can go to see the state of play..?

Just an idea...

P.S. If you need anyone to help with general stuff, on the day, or the day before I'd be willing to give a hand... (I'm pretty sure I'll be there, but depends on the date etc... etc...) Maybe you need a bunch of us for 'dogsbody' duties???

Good plan. we need an official, Mod only sticky, then a bunch of threads to discuss things and call Maya names :)

As for crew, With me and Tim, and the few others who sort of know the score, plus a few enthusiasts who want to know what the hell goes on before a gig and don't mind humping speakers, we'll muddle through. As long as we're in the place at a reasonable hour, don't start getting carried away rigging lights and flying speakers (the place isn't big enough to justify flying speakers is it?), it'll work out OK. We let the band's, presumably under OldMonkey's whip, sort the stage, just how they like it; while 4 or 5 of us setup the speakers, desk, multicore and amps. Then we send the band(s) away for nosebag and put the monitors in around their gear, and roughly position the drum mics and other bits and pieces ready for a proper dig at a soundcheck when feeding time is over. Maybe that's not how it's normally done round your parts, but from both sides, I fucking hate having monitors and mic cables being run round the band's feet when they're setting up. Better to let them get happy, get rid of them, do the annoying things, then get down to work.

BTW, in my head, this place is sort of "lesser Free trade hall as depicted in 24hpp-sized, but less shitty and with a bar and a low stage". And I'm, currently working on the assumption that we are doing a full sound mix rather than some vocals and keyboards and a smidge of re-enforcement. That's two side of the triangle, but the third, which literally only just popped up in my mind is this.... What kind of sound level are we looking to create. Are we going to try and get a full on concert racket happening? IS that appropriate for the intended purpose of NOOLday (being, primarily, social interaction). If we make big noise, is there somewhere quieter in the building people can come and go to freely to chat and chill. ARE we, as I envisage, going to be relaxed about change-out times, and have long periods of disco or amusing karaoke in between bands, Or are we gonna do all the bands at once and do festival style changeovers, and if so, before or after "quiet time". It would, in a way, be a litle bit of a shame if far from being a chance for us to hang out it turned into something akin to a NO gig, frantic drinking followed by losing each other in the noise and crush :) then again, it'll be mainly us lot anyway.

Sorry, I'm just thinking out loud rather than asking serious questions. Tho the sooner I can pin down the holy volum triangle the better.... 1.Size 2.Level of Re-enforcement (all in, or just a bit of make up volume and vocal amplification) and 3.Intended ambient volume.(recital/pub/club/gig/armageddon/NO-apollo14)

I mean, I'm up for blowing the bloody doors off if you are, but can we afford it (OldMonkey, the answer to that based on what i have here is that the doors will remain on :) ) and is that what we want anyway?

It's big enough, but yes, I do still want to be able to hear what is coming out of the monitors and be able to hear the next day!

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/157/Jabez_Clegg/Manchester

jeez, that is a bit on the big side. well we should be able to make a fair old din down one end and people can chill up t'other. We're not filling that with big noise for wee money anyway. So I'd say things will work out OK. At least it'll take some proper PA....there's nothing worse than sitting at a huge mixer, plugged into 2X100 cabs :)

Steve, have you tried this...

Extra Boy

It's a bit hit and miss, but amazing on Pixies tracks, completely nukes vocals and leaves the guitars alone.

nope, but I will. And the thing listed under it looks like a bundle of laughs for when the brain drops outta gear.

NO songs will be a fuckbag to do I just KNOW it, there's so much slapback/ADT to broaden Bernard's voice on so many tunes.

I think I tried a few NO tracks and it failed miserably. Try Debaser.

Barney Army wrote: I think I tried a few NO tracks and it failed miserably. Try Debaser.

i'll have a fidget at some tomorrow. I have a sort of half arsed idea that dropping the right pre-processing in might just clinch it :)

Steve Campbell wrote:

Barney Army wrote: I think I tried a few NO tracks and it failed miserably. Try Debaser.

i'll have a fidget at some tomorrow. I have a sort of half arsed idea that dropping the right pre-processing in might just clinch it :)

I take it back, with a bit of messing it does work ok NO if you muck about with the settings, although you lose a bit of other bits. For instance on Love Vig it wipes the Melodica out. Although I guess you can get round that with real time adjusting.

Just listening to WFTSC minus Barney..weird