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Wonderful news…
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We are excited to announce our return to Australia in March 2025, heading to Perth, Melbourne, Brisbane, and Sydney.
Tickets on sale 31 October 10am (local).
Oz Viking rollcall: Who’s in, and name your city/s… I could be tempted to see all of em, certainly Brisbane by default.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2025/rac-arena-perth-australia-2b51a4de.html
Player In The League…quite an obscure choice, isn’t it? 19-song setlist makes it one song more than the Japanese one.
Andy —
How can you put the link to setlist.fm as short and crisp the way you do? When you do, it always turns up, “Setlist.fm”. Looks smarter.
The Japanese One wrote: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2025/rac-arena-perth-australia-2b51a4de.html
Player In The League…quite an obscure choice, isn’t it? 19-song setlist makes it one song more than the Japanese one.
Downright wacky. I've seen people bitching about "State of the Nation" returning to the set but "Player in the League is definitely not top tier.
I hope they're not trying too hard to revist the Get Ready era in response to Hooky touring the album. In the recent interview of his I posted today, he claims most of that album has never been played live. I believe "Vicious Streak", "Primitive Notion" (which is one of my favourites from it) and "Someone Like You" are the only ones that have actually been neglected. With "Player in the League" making its debut, now even a couple of the era's b-sides (along with "Behind Closed Doors") and its non-album single "Here to Stay" have been performed. Even Pre-Get Ready track "Brutal" has also been performed live.
The Japanese One wrote: Andy —
How can you put the link to setlist.fm as short and crisp the way you do? When you do, it always turns up, “Setlist.fm”. Looks smarter.
When you post a link with the Create Link icon, you're asked to "Enter URL". After you type or paste it, you're asked to "Enter URL Description". You can then type anything you want, which is what appears as the link.
The Japanese One wrote: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2025/rac-arena-perth-australia-2b51a4de.html
Player In The League…quite an obscure choice, isn’t it? 19-song setlist makes it one song more than the Japanese one.
"Waiting for the Sirens' Call" was in the first setlist I saw on the site (replacing "Krafty" from the shows in Japan). It has since been removed, returning the set tally to 18 tracks.
I've been listening to Get Ready a little bit recently, and each time I find myself inevitably skipping ahead to Someone Like You and thinking this would fit great with the more electronic-based current setlist. Player in the League, well...😕
Andy wrote:
The Japanese One wrote: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2025/rac-arena-perth-australia-2b51a4de.html
Player In The League…quite an obscure choice, isn’t it? 19-song setlist makes it one song more than the Japanese one.
Downright wacky. I've seen people bitching about "State of the Nation" returning to the set but "Player in the League is definitely not top tier.
I hope they're not trying too hard to revist the Get Ready era in response to Hooky touring the album. In the recent interview of his I posted today, he claims most of that album has never been played live. I believe "Vicious Streak", "Primitive Notion" (which is one of my favourites from it) and "Someone Like You" are the only ones that have actually been neglected. With "Player in the League" making its debut, now even a couple of the era's b-sides (along with "Behind Closed Doors") and its non-album single "Here to Stay" have been performed. Even Pre-Get Ready track "Brutal" has also been performed live.
Yes I thought that too and I agree that the only tracks not played from GR are the ones you stated with SLY and PN being strange choices not to play as 2 of the best on the album, they played rock the shack for gods sake! I suppose what Hooky means they’ve hardly been played regularly. Only crystal and run wild survived the set list in the main after 2201/2002 era and run wild was dropped after 2005. So only Crystal gets regular play
I must admit I’ve always quite liked PITL. Decent B-side. Excellent bit of Hooky bass. Did anyone see it live? What was it like live. Much better than shake it up anyway
Anyone know what song this "Censored" graphic is used for down the bottom left (lower tweet)?
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^ State Of The Nation i think. When i 2atched the clip of Japan think it was part of videos playing during the song
So "down under" gets Love less and SOTN but we got GIAUE last time I saw them at the O2, London, 2023. Hey ho...
EmileStrunz wrote: Love LessLove Less live
^Computer says: NO, this link doesn't play. But it will now:
Can't say I'm a fan of PITL, but we may as well embed Neil's link anyway:
Gillian & Steve have previously talked about trying to convince Bernard to revisit Leave Me Alone. The wait continues...
Debaser wrote: So "down under" gets Love less and SOTN but we got GIAUE last time I saw them at the O2, London, 2023. Hey ho...
EmileStrunz wrote: Love LessLove Less live
^Computer says: NO, this link doesn't play. But it will now:
Can't say I'm a fan of PITL, but we may as well embed Neil's link anyway:
Gillian & Steve have previously talked about trying to convince Bernard to revisit Leave Me Alone. The wait continues...
Thank you and sorry for not embedding properly. The preview wasn’t working.
Love Less is an awesome track (naturally - it's from the most perfect album ever recorded).
I'm pretty pleased with this version. Sounded decent.
perspexorange wrote: Love Less is an awesome track (naturally - it's from the most perfect album ever recorded).
I'm pretty pleased with this version. Sounded decent.
Agreed, decent version. It's not really a crowdpleaser live, but suspect they're doing it for the hardcore fans, which warms my heart.
perspexorange wrote: Love Less is an awesome track (naturally - it's from the most perfect album ever recorded).
I'm pretty pleased with this version. Sounded decent.
Started out a bit lumpen, but improved as they got into it.
The thing we picking these random old tracks is that they are obviously on edge when they play them. Compared to knocking out BLT for the billionth time, surely they must get a bit of a rush from playing *new* old stuff?
Same set in Brisbane as the previous show - which means Love Less and Player In The League were played again
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2025/riverstage-brisbane-australia-2b51a4d6.html
Despite that Guardian news article, it looks like plenty of people still made it
A decent and interesting set list, great to see loveless in the set. It’s a shame (of the nation) blue Monday, true faith, lwtua, and atmosphere can’t have a break from the set now and again, they are sounding a bit tired
The Shadow wrote: A decent and interesting set list, great to see loveless in the set. It’s a shame (of the nation) blue Monday, true faith, lwtua, and atmosphere can’t have a break from the set now and again, they are sounding a bit tired
I'm inclined to agree about the about those stalwarts in the set. But aside from the usual excuses for keeping them in (people might be seeing them for the first time, they've spent money and effort on programming sounds and visuals, they're lazy...), I believe there's something else at play: There's not going to be too many more go arounds. It's unlikely Bernard is going to be motivated to drag himself to Australia once he's in his seventies.
The main reason I'm going to see them in May is because there's a good chance it will be my last opportunity.
Andy wrote:
The Shadow wrote: A decent and interesting set list, great to see loveless in the set. It’s a shame (of the nation) blue Monday, true faith, lwtua, and atmosphere can’t have a break from the set now and again, they are sounding a bit tired
I'm inclined to agree about the about those stalwarts in the set. But aside from the usual excuses for keeping them in (people might be seeing them for the first time, they've spent money and effort on programming sounds and visuals, they're lazy...), I believe there's something else at play: There's not going to be too many more go arounds. It's unlikely Bernard is going to be motivated to drag himself to Australia once he's in his seventies.
I've seen then many times since 1984 but not so much recently, whether that's me getting old or them getting even older. What would tempt me back and very unlikely but who knows:
If you haven't seen NO by now - tough lol and if you want to watch live music in a field go to Glastonbury.
CTB wrote: Not the best bit of media coverage...
Stupid f#$king article, that one. Probably based on a handful of whiners on social media. 9000+ people turned up and had a brilliant time, enjoying some joy after a week of anxiety and drama.
Being in Brisbane, and having liaised with band management over the course of the preceding week on the conditions here, I can talk directly to this.
Firstly the band was watching very carefully, and ready to pull the plug, go to alternate venues, etc as needed. In no way were they going to proceed unless the conditions had cleared, the site was safe, and things were returning to some level of normaility.
For those unaware, Brisbane / SE-QLD had just gone through a Cat-2 Cyclone (Hurricane/Typhoon), and major associated rain event; the first directly on the city for 50 years. The system was supposed to hit on Thursday, but f@#ked around for 2 days out to sea before crossing the coast on Sat morning, and sitting still for 48 hours, dumping >500mm rain on us. The risk of major flood was real. Airports were closed, etc.
Having said that, the system had downgraded by Sunday night to a point where the window was open (no pun intended). Plans were made to go to an optional venue (indoors) if needed, etc, and the band wanted - if possible - to proceed. Which they did, in spades. By Monday the weather had dissipated, the venue had not flooded and was able to get prepared, the airports opened, the CBD had avoided a real cannonball of weather, and the promoter had gotten council approval to proceed.
So yes, some in certain parts of the region may still have had challenges in attending, but for the vast majority it was a wonderful gig of pure bliss, and the disappointment and noise would have been far greater had they cancelled. But as usual, the press will prefer to report the minority view, won't they...
...and so backstage after the gig I had the chance to say proper thanks to Bernard & co.
Dennis Remmer wrote:
CTB wrote: Not the best bit of media coverage...
Stupid f#$king article, that one. Probably based on a handful of whiners on social media. 9000+ people turned up and had a brilliant time, enjoying some joy after a week of anxiety and drama.
Being in Brisbane, and having liaised with band management over the course of the preceding week on the conditions here, I can talk directly to this.
Firstly the band was watching very carefully, and ready to pull the plug, go to alternate venues, etc as needed. In no way were they going to proceed unless the conditions had cleared, the site was safe, and things were returning to some level of normaility.
For those unaware, Brisbane / SE-QLD had just gone through a Cat-2 Cyclone (Hurricane/Typhoon), and major associated rain event; the first directly on the city for 50 years. The system was supposed to hit on Thursday, but f@#ked around for 2 days out to sea before crossing the coast on Sat morning, and sitting still for 48 hours, dumping >500mm rain on us. The risk of major flood was real. Airports were closed, etc.
Having said that, the system had downgraded by Sunday night to a point where the window was open (no pun intended). Plans were made to go to an optional venue (indoors) if needed, etc, and the band wanted - if possible - to proceed. Which they did, in spades. By Monday the weather had dissipated, the venue had not flooded and was able to get prepared, the airports opened, the CBD had avoided a real cannonball of weather, and the promoter had gotten council approval to proceed.
So yes, some in certain parts of the region may still have had challenges in attending, but for the vast majority it was a wonderful gig of pure bliss, and the disappointment and noise would have been far greater had they cancelled. But as usual, the press will prefer to report the minority view, won't they...
...and so backstage after the gig I had the chance to say proper thanks to Bernard & co.
Fair enough - just to clarify, I wasn't endorsing the news, just pointing it out as it popped up in my feed. Agree it had all the hallmarks of a beat-up.
Hope you weathered ex-trop Alfie ok, Dennis!
ctb
Andy wrote: Brisbane review: Scenestr.com
"At age 69, it's forgivable that he could be fatigued or faltered in onstage breath work, but it weakens the famously uplifting track. Maybe it's something for the frontman to consider as the years gain and physical abilities wane."
This bit made me laugh out loud ![[:d]](/emoticons/biggrin.gif){kind=small}
Setlist.fm does not put Vanishing Point on Sydney night #1, at this moment I’m having a look, at least. It is usually segued from BLT these days. If that’s the case, back to an 18-song setlist then.
The Japanese One wrote: Setlist.fm does not put Vanishing Point on Sydney night #1, at this moment I’m having a look, at least. It is usually segued from BLT these days. If that’s the case, back to an 18-song setlist then.
There is debate over the accuracy of the setlist posting in the comments.
Andy wrote:
The Japanese One wrote: Setlist.fm does not put Vanishing Point on Sydney night #1, at this moment I’m having a look, at least. It is usually segued from BLT these days. If that’s the case, back to an 18-song setlist then.
There is debate over the accuracy of the setlist posting in the comments.
I know. But there is no mention as to Vanishing Point being played or not on the comments section both nights.
The Japanese One wrote:
Andy wrote:
The Japanese One wrote: Setlist.fm does not put Vanishing Point on Sydney night #1, at this moment I’m having a look, at least. It is usually segued from BLT these days. If that’s the case, back to an 18-song setlist then.
There is debate over the accuracy of the setlist posting in the comments.
I know. But there is no mention as to Vanishing Point being played or not on the comments section both nights.
This reviewer says it was played during the second night: TheMusic.com.au
I would think people motivated enough to post on Setlist.fm would know that "Vanishing Point" is actually a separate, distinct song to "Bizarre Love Triangle". But there are also idiots that edit things on the site unnecessarily...
The Japanese One wrote:
Andy wrote:
The Japanese One wrote: Setlist.fm does not put Vanishing Point on Sydney night #1, at this moment I’m having a look, at least. It is usually segued from BLT these days. If that’s the case, back to an 18-song setlist then.
There is debate over the accuracy of the setlist posting in the comments.
I know. But there is no mention as to Vanishing Point being played or not on the comments section both nights.
While the mystery of the vanishing (or not) "Vanishing Point" remains, the band did make an effort to differentiate between the two nights in Sydney.
First night only: Krafty, State of the Nation and Decades.
Second night only: Academic, Nothing but a Fool and Atmosphere.
Andy wrote: This reviewer says it was played during the second night: TheMusic.com.au
I would think people motivated enough to post on Setlist.fm would know that "Vanishing Point" is actually a separate, distinct song to "Bizarre Love Triangle". But there are also idiots that edit things on the site unnecessarily...
Yeah, their “setlist police” often makes me cringe hell of a lot! For example; when it comes to cover songs, they are dead adamant in putting the original titles instead of the way the artists give a credit to on the record labels and sleeves, which are usually better known and more commonly referred to among the music listeners and general public alike, e.g. in case of Cream, “Cross Road Blues” for “Crossroads”.
Andy wrote: This reviewer says it was played during the second night: TheMusic.com.au
I reread the text. The reviewer also says Loveless was played — “Love Less was a more introspective moment, its plaintive melody weaving through the humid night air.”
Is he credible enough?
The Japanese One wrote:
Andy wrote: This reviewer says it was played during the second night: TheMusic.com.au
I reread the text. The reviewer also says Loveless was played — “Love Less was a more introspective moment, its plaintive melody weaving through the humid night air.”
Is he credible enough?
That's a good point, they might have gotten the song confused with "Nothing but a Fool".
The Japanese One wrote: Setlist.fm does not put Vanishing Point on Sydney night #1, at this moment I’m having a look, at least. It is usually segued from BLT these days. If that’s the case, back to an 18-song setlist then.
Can definitely confirm no Vanishing Point on night 1 in Sydney. Was ready for the segue to kick in but it never happened. State of the Nation, never one of my favourites, was immense. Thought Barney was in excellent form, getting a bit narky at times which is always good. Decades was majestic (musically at least) and I couldn't help getting a bit emotional with the stunning Harbour backdrop framing it beautifully. I liked the more 'acoustic' take on LWTUA without the whoops and come- ons. Having said that I'd be happy if the JD tracks were rested but I don't suppose they will be from this point on. Same with the lumpen arrangement of True Faith and well, I really have nothing nice to say about Be a Rebel.
M1 wrote: Can definitely confirm no Vanishing Point on night 1 in Sydney. Was ready for the segue to kick in but it never happened.
That’s a shame, because in Brisbane Bernard was pulling off some stylish air-violin moves during the segue.
Dennis Remmer wrote:
M1 wrote: Can definitely confirm no Vanishing Point on night 1 in Sydney. Was ready for the segue to kick in but it never happened.
That’s a shame, because in Brisbane Bernard was pulling off some stylish air-violin moves during the segue.
He did the same in Melbourne too, commenting at the end that he can't really play violin, but he can program it.
I quite like 'Be a Rebel' live, and I'm happy efforts have been made to add different songs to the set. In general they were far better live this time around than I was expecting; dare I say it, they were better live than the times I saw them in Aus in the latter Hook era.
Ctb
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