New Order Weekend Chicago Next April

this was originally posted in the community forum by wenorder :)

Kamar Khan and I were discussing the possiblity of organizing a weekend of events in Chicago to coincide with the release of COMMUNITY. We're hoping to get as many NOOLiners to come to Chicago. Below is a tenative itinerary. So I'm interested to see if any of you all would be interested in participating in an event like this. Feel free to comment and add any ideas you may have. Also, if we do go through with this event, then we'll be looking for any COMMUNITY bands willing to perform for free at this event.

If you guys don't know kamar yet, he lives in chicago and has a great radio show every monday night. He also does some promotion work. He will be able to pull everything together and organize this event.

New order weekend 2004

1.Location: Chicago IL USA 2.Dates: April 15-18 (subject to change) 3.Why Chicago? : Chicago would be a wonderful place for a New Order weekend because of its unique culture, numerous attractions, and exciting nightlife. It is also conveniently located in the Midwest, so no matter where you are coming from (with the exception of outside the USA) it can be relatively cheap and easy to get to.

Schedule of events: (Tentative)

Thursday: New Order tribute CD (Community) listening party @ the Heartland Café. This café has great food, all types of drinks, and a cozy bar. Perfect place to meet other New Order fans and to kick start the weekend. (No cover/All Ages)

Planet Earth: Chicago’s oldest night club. Catering to the New Wave/goth/Industrial scene. Thursdays are New Wave from the late 70’s to 1987. You wont hear BLT or Blue Monday here, instead Dave Roberts tends to play early New Order like original version of “Temptation” or “5-8-6”. Open till 4am and located in Chicago’s Lincoln Park area. (21 and over. $3 cover).

Friday: Visit museums, Michigan Ave., Downtown, recordstores, local zoos, or whatever else you want to do own your own or with others from NOOL…. There is plenty to do and see and if you need suggestions, feel free to contact Kamar @ destinationunknown23@hotmail.com

Hang out with others from NOOL and go out to dinner/bar hopping/ dancing etc… Enjoy Chicago’s nightlife to its fullest.

Saturday: Chicago Cubs game: @ Hostoric Wrigley Field. (120pm)

New Order Night @ the Bottom Lounge or the Beat Kitchen: 21 and over. DJ’s spinning all NEW ORDER, JOY DIVISION, ELECTRONIC, REVENGE, the OTHER TWO all night long. Prize giveaways, cheap drinks, lots of fun! (POSSIBLIITY OF BANDS PERFORMING AS WELL---WILL CONFIRM WHEN INFO. IS AVAILABLE)

Sunday: Do last minute things you didn’t get a chance to or go home J…. Farewell Lunch @ Seaside Café over-looking Lake Michigan.

Here are some links: http://www.Metromix.com http://www.Planetearthchicago.com http://www.Chicagoreader.com

IF ANYONE NEEDS HELP LOOKING FOR HOTELS PLEASE CONTACT ME, THERE ARE SOME REALLY CHEAP ONES IN SOME OF CHICAGO’S COOLEST NEIGHBORHOODS……… Destinationunknown23@hotmail.com

If you could change the meeting place to San Diego then I could go; hey beautiful weather and Tijuana; what more could you desire???

Who wants to be in Montreal in April; I do not want frozen phlegm and frost-bitten toes

hmmm...maybe we could all meet in Seattle. I think that would be most convenient for everyone.

I'd have thought that Chicago would make the best choice, given the Order's influence on that city's status as the birthplace of what used to be known as house music????

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by martin fradley> I'd have thought that Chicago would make the best choice, given the Order's influence on that city's status as the birthplace of what used to be known as house music????

Chicago's influence on them, not t'other way round ... surely?

I dunno, that's an interesting point: do the likes of "EGG", "Temptation", "5.8.6.", "YSF", and "BM" predate the house sound of chicago, or do New Order become increasingly interested in the music coming out of Chicago and Detroit and incorporate that into their sound?

I guess the easy way out of this is to say that the two mutually influenced each other, but I've read interviews with early house pioneers who frequently namedrop New Order and Depeche Mode as key influences. And what about the old "Ecstasy"-as-the-first-acid-house-tune nugget?

Do we have any house historians in the, er, house?

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by martin fradley> > > > Originally posted by Al Jarvis> > Originally posted by martin fradley> I'd have thought that Chicago would make the best choice, given the Order's influence on that city's status as the birthplace of what used to be known as house music????

Chicago's influence on them, not t'other way round ... surely?

I dunno, that's an interesting point: do the likes of "EGG", "Temptation", "5.8.6.", "YSF", and "BM" predate the house sound of chicago, or do New Order become increasingly interested in the music coming out of Chicago and Detroit and incorporate that into their sound?

And what about the old "Ecstasy"-as-the-first-acid-house-tune nugget?

Personally, I think you're giving New Order too much credit, Martin. Blue Monday was ground-breaking in the sense that it hit all the right buttons, literally. It was nothing new, as such, but it was amazingly commercial. But I doubt anyone on 'that' side of the pond was aware of the likes of Temptation or Everything's Gone Green. Check out the likes of Donna Summer's I Feel Love or Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express, both written five years before Blue Monday ever appeared so probably both a much greater influence initially.

Ecstasy though? Hardly a dance tune really, and certainly f'all to do with what we know as Acid House. I doubt even the title was in reference to the drug itself, just another song title plucked from obscurity.

You may well be right, Al. If I remember rightly, though, the thing about Ecstasy came from a letter someone wrote to the NME years and years back: I've got an inkling it may have been a certain Mr 4.45 aka J******* S****. He certainly wrote a very terse letter once calling Factory a bunch of (and I quote) "cunts", the rude young man!

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by martin fradley> > I've got an inkling it may have been a certain Mr 4.45 aka J******* S****. He certainly wrote a very terse letter once calling Factory a bunch of (and I quote) "cunts", the rude young man!

Not sure JS would've talked about Factory so. I think he's done alright by them in the past - the odd guestlist and have you.

Unless it was another Jonathon Scott - which seems unlikely: the letter was regarding Factory's repackaging of Joy Division material, and the letter made a 'whatevr next' point along the lines that perhaps Wilson's next move would be to produce a 90s dance mix of LWTUA to bring it up-to-date.

Don't want to be attributing quotations to the wrong person, though, obviously.....

peter hook has a strong liking for chicago. on a dvd for the history of metro (concert venue. joe shannahan (owner) mentioned that whenever a manchester band came to chicago, they wanted to play at metro because "hooky" told them it was a great place. he mentioned happy mondays and oasis as two bands who said they wanted metro in chicago because peter hook told them to. in the papers about 6 months ago, shanahan mentioned a early new order gig as one of his favorites in the history of the metro. the power went out and new order put on an acoustic show. as far as the house debate goes, i have no idea. i thought new order were influenced by the club scene in New York during the 80's.

kamar

The famous Chicago Metro show in 1983, that hasn't ever seen general availability as a bootleg !

Apparently the synths packed up so they did all guitar stuff, rather than everything packing up.

Don't suppose the radio station or whatever has a copy of the recording ?

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Reg Bumswizle> The famous Chicago Metro show in 1983, that hasn't ever seen general availability as a bootleg !> > Apparently the synths packed up so they did all guitar stuff, rather than everything packing up.> > Don't suppose the radio station or whatever has a copy of the recording ?

Oh right, not exactly 'acoustic' then? I had visions of the band sitting around on bar stools 'strumming' spanish guitars.

Doesn't leave much scope then, does it? Ceremony, Leave Me Alone ... um, perhaps half of Movement?

Apparently it was halfway through the set, and they had already played Ceremony and Age of Consent ! So I was informed (by a mate's wife who was at the show but wasn't a real big fan) they did five tracks before the synths went, then there was a gap followed by four others (inc. Sister Ray). A bit of a mess but the band seemed to bestow Preston-esque status to this show.