Ian Curtis

I only recently got to see the "Here are the Young Men Video".

I think that Ian's Dancing is superb, not Textbook but its just brilliant. He brings out his emotions and all in his dance.

Same opinion as mine when I was 15.

It was 13 years ago

It's true. He was a mad dancer (literally?). Good stuff. I give him an A for effort.

If you where pissed up and on medication you would dance that like.

Originally posted by One Brain So, you play in a Joy Division tribute band and only recently watched "Here Are The Young Men"?

Yes. Your point being?

Probably wondering if you wanted to borrow a copy of any of the albums.....

Originally posted by Probably wondering if you wanted to borrow a copy of any of the albums.....

Why?

I once had a can of shandy and three paracetamols and I didn't dance like that!

Originally posted by almanso i´ve always find it embarrassing, just like Barney. even though i find Barney´s dance it´s also funny.

In retrospect it can seem embarassing but at the time I can assure you that it didn't!

Originally posted by One Brain > Originally posted by Steven C-D> > > > Originally posted by One Brain> > So, you play in a Joy Division tribute band and only recently watched "Here Are The Young Men"? >

Yes. Your point being? I think anyone in a tribute band should have listened to all live material available and watched every minute of live footage in existence even before thinking of forming the band. "Here Are The Young Men" is something really basic that you've overlooked for a long time, I guess.

Why Brains, please you've lost me here?

Primarily because there is no way you can do either yourself or the original material/artist justice without knowing where they were coming from. Any fooker can get on stage and play a Joy Division song. Playing it authentically is another matter, and an essential attribute for a tribute band to have. That involves knowing the songs really well in all formats for a start !

With respect to the starter of this thread. I would say the "Here Are The Young Men" video is hardly easy to come by. You wont find it in HMV!

I've kept out of this so far and it probably is none of my business.

What is this are you the tribute band Nazi? Do you want them to sound as JD were in a particular time. Surely tribute bands can choose to interpert the music any way they choose. Don't forget that all bands change their sound over time. Do you want them to pay homage to just one particular point in JD's history?

Having said that, yes it is a good idea to look at all the material out there, but you can't perscribe other people what to do.

If you don't like it don't listen

Originally posted by almanso i´ve always find it embarrassing, just like Barney. even though i find Barney´s dance it´s also funny.

I think Barney's dancing is classic. I give him an A for effort and making us all laugh!

Originally posted by One Brain I'll second what Tim said, he was spot-on, as usual.There was no intent to devaluate your work, Steven, but I got really surprised by knowing that someone joined a Joy Division tribute band before watching their only official live video. I apologise if I sounded too critical or something.

I haven't even seen the whole video of HATYM yet and I call myself a serious JD fan. Anyway, it doesn't seem important to see the band playing live on video unless you plan on copying their moves. Since I certainly hope none of you in tribute bands embarrass yourselves trying to copy them (esp. Ian's dancing), why the fuck should it really matter as long as the music sounds right? (Maybe some of you in tribute bands are trying to be like those Cure tribute bands that have singers who dress up like a certain made-up porker?)

well heres an eye opener. i whapped hatym in the vid the other day whilst i was doin some odd jobs around the house whilst the missus n daughter was out doin some christmas shopping. i popped my head around from time to time to watch ect.

then in comes the missus ect.

1st time daughter has seen jd in action (heard em loads but first time ect).

rolls around on floor laughing, hitting carpet with one fist and pointing at screen with other hand.

in her defence she is only 12,so i clipped her around the ear and told her to grow up LOLOLOL

Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope > Originally posted by One Brain> I'll second what Tim said, he was spot-on, as usual.> > There was no intent to devaluate your work, Steven, but I got really surprised by knowing that someone joined a Joy Division tribute band before watching their only official live video. I apologise if I sounded too critical or something.

I haven't even seen the whole video of HATYM yet and I call myself a serious JD fan. Anyway, it doesn't seem important to see the band playing live on video unless you plan on copying their moves. Since I certainly hope none of you in tribute bands embarrass yourselves trying to copy them (esp. Ian's dancing), why the fuck should it really matter as long as the music sounds right? (Maybe some of you in tribute bands are trying to be like those Cure tribute bands that have singers who dress up like a certain made-up porker?)

Err.....the singer of this band does try to copy Ian's moves and the music doesn't sound right, that was the whole point of this !!

You kids play rough :bag:

i guess with ian's dancing there was an air of seriousness about it considering his suspected epilepsy, medication and hectic life. in my eyes it doesnt stop it being funny (probably because im a sadist).

Barneys dancing? HHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH. oh yes now thats what i call using your feet

Originally posted by Primarily because there is no way you can do either yourself or the original material/artist justice without knowing where they were coming from. Any fooker can get on stage and play a Joy Division song. Playing it authentically is another matter, and an essential attribute for a tribute band to have. That involves knowing the songs really well in all formats for a start !

Ok ill reply 1 at time to this "people".

Do u know what the word Tribute Means Reg bummer/unheard pleasures(Yet to hear your graet tribute still). So quit with the obsevive bullshit.

A tribute is paying Homage to those in Question, Dont mean you gotto copy em down to a T.

And i wish you would not call yourself a Fooker no matter how true it is pal.

Originally posted by One Brain I'll second what Tim said, he was spot-on, as usual.There was no intent to devaluate your work, Steven, but I got really surprised by knowing that someone joined a Joy Division tribute band before watching their only official live video. I apologise if I sounded too critical or something.

To answer this one Brain, I actually had never heard of Joy Division Until May/June this year. I was sent 4 songs by our singer and that was it, i was hooked, So i had only heard 4 songs b4 Joining the band.

So What does it matter?

Originally posted by Steven C-D > Originally posted by > Primarily because there is no way you can do either yourself or the original material/artist justice without knowing where they were coming from. Any fooker can get on stage and play a Joy Division song. Playing it authentically is another matter, and an essential attribute for a tribute band to have. That involves knowing the songs really well in all formats for a start !

Ok ill reply 1 at time to this "people".

Do u know what the word Tribute Means Reg bummer/unheard pleasures(Yet to hear your graet tribute still). So quit with the obsevive bullshit.

A tribute is paying Homage to those in Question, Dont mean you gotto copy em down to a T.

And i wish you would not call yourself a Fooker no matter how true it is pal.

1. Learn the Queen's English, in particular spelling.
2. Use it.
3. Listen to our songs on our website - freely available to all.
4. I'm not your pal.

Err.....the singer of this band does try to copy Ian's moves and the music doesn't sound right, that was the whole point of this !!

How the Fook do u know?

Originally posted by Steven C-D Err.....the singer of this band does try to copy Ian's moves and the music doesn't sound right, that was the whole point of this !!

How the Fook do u know?

How do you think I know ?

1. Learn the Queen's English, in particular spelling.
2. Use it.
3. Listen to our songs on our website - freely available to all.
4. I'm not your pal.

Answers.

1. Dont wan a speak like queen, can spell just like typing quick.
2. Use it? Dont do requests 3)Have done, sound poor, especially vocals. + They were recorded in studio were they not. Any fooker can go in a studio and record it. On stage its 1 chance saloon which you obviously have no experience of otherwise you'd have a diff opinion. 4)My tongue was far in to my cheek.

Originally posted by > Originally posted by Steven C-D> Err.....the singer of this band does try to copy Ian's moves and the music doesn't sound right, that was the whole point of this !!

How the Fook do u know?

How do you think I know ?

So u lie as u have said u didnt make it on this forum so I have no more interest in any more Bull that you type.

This thread is getting interesting

Originally posted by Steven C-D

Answers.

1. Dont wan a speak like queen, can spell just like typing quick.
2. Use it? Dont do requests 3)Have done, sound poor, especially vocals. + They were recorded in studio were they not. Any fooker can go in a studio and record it. On stage its 1 chance saloon which you obviously have no experience of otherwise you'd have a diff opinion. 4)My tongue was far in to my cheek.

Having done well over a thousand gigs over the years in various bands, including several hundred with just me, a microphone and an acoustic guitar, I think I have plenty of experience of live work, thank you.

Can't wait to see you at the Dublin Castle (assuming the box they find you to stand on is big enough for you to be seen through the massed crowd).

Don't miss this Fight on UK Arena

KNOWN PLEASURES X UNKNOWN PLEASURES

Originally posted by > Originally posted by Steven C-D> > Answers.> > 1) Dont wan a speak like queen, can spell just like typing quick.> 2) Use it? Dont do requests> 3)Have done, sound poor, especially vocals. + They were recorded in studio were they not. Any fooker can go in a studio and record it. On stage its 1 chance saloon which you obviously have no experience of otherwise you'd have a diff opinion.> 4)My tongue was far in to my cheek.

Having done well over a thousand gigs over the years in various bands, including several hundred with just me, a microphone and an acoustic guitar, I think I have plenty of experience of live work, thank you.

Can't wait to see you at the Dublin Castle (assuming the box they find you to stand on is big enough for you to be seen through the massed crowd).

Now your getting personal, normally means Argument won.

1st Round started

Originally posted by Barton Street 77 1st Round started

Where's the pretty girl that holds up the card at the start of the match???

Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by Barton Street 77 1st Round started

Where's the pretty girl that holds up the card at the start of the match??? here u go, no card but pretty enough!

He meant these :

Originally posted by SuperNova > Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by Barton Street 77 1st Round started

Where's the pretty girl that holds up the card at the start of the match??? here u go, no card but pretty enough!

Wow, I'd quit smoking with those Charlie's Angels around.

Wow, girls sure do diffuse sticky situations

Originally posted by Dead Soul > Originally posted by > > > > Originally posted by Steven C-D> > > > Answers.> > > > 1) Dont wan a speak like queen, can spell just like typing quick.> > 2) Use it? Dont do requests> > 3)Have done, sound poor, especially vocals. + They were recorded in studio were they not. Any fooker can go in a studio and record it. On stage its 1 chance saloon which you obviously have no experience of otherwise you'd have a diff opinion.> > 4)My tongue was far in to my cheek.>

Having done well over a thousand gigs over the years in various bands, including several hundred with just me, a microphone and an acoustic guitar, I think I have plenty of experience of live work, thank you.

Can't wait to see you at the Dublin Castle (assuming the box they find you to stand on is big enough for you to be seen through the massed crowd).

Now your getting personal, normally means Argument won.

I won a long time ago, don't worry.

What ever you say Tim.

Christ !! Dead Soul is a bit tetchy lol

Originally posted by Mike Garrity Christ !! Dead Soul is a bit tetchy lol

Tetchy, you dont know the half of it.

Tetchy ?!?

Did you mean teacher ?

Honestly, you children need to chill out and quit trying to be holier-than-thou when it comes to this stuff. Jesus.

Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope Honestly, you children need to chill out and quit trying to be holier-than-thou when it comes to this stuff. Jesus.

well said david and i would like to take this opportunity to promote my new joy division cover band called 'The Pleasures of the Unknown' and i can confidentally say they would kick the arse of both of your bands. the bassist is so like hooky he got his passport confiscated at gatwick for being suspected of smuggling antelope into britain.

Originally posted by Drep Hemarsarkus > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> Honestly, you children need to chill out and quit trying to be holier-than-thou when it comes to this stuff. Jesus.

well said david and i would like to take this opportunity to promote my new joy division cover band called 'The Pleasures of the Unknown' and i can confidentally say they would kick the arse of both of your bands. the bassist is so like hooky he got his passport confiscated at gatwick for being suspected of smuggling antelope into britain.

Man

You made me wake the whole house up with my laugh

Originally posted by Barton Street 77 > Originally posted by Drep Hemarsarkus> > > > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> > Honestly, you children need to chill out and quit trying to be holier-than-thou when it comes to this stuff. Jesus.>

well said david and i would like to take this opportunity to promote my new joy division cover band called 'The Pleasures of the Unknown' and i can confidentally say they would kick the arse of both of your bands. the bassist is so like hooky he got his passport confiscated at gatwick for being suspected of smuggling antelope into britain.

Man

You made me wake the whole house up with my laugh Yes, I just loudly interrupted a movie being watched nearby with some loud laughter. Well done!