Confederate flag...
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No, he just appreciates Southern culture.........:D
Manchester and the American south have a lot in common: both were hotbeds for secession in the 1850s, and both have resorted to hitting the bottle since the Civil War. Obviously Barney meant to say "You all forgot about Jefferson Davis!" but not vocally 
Originally posted by Taboo # 7 No, he just appreciates Southern culture.........:DManchester and the American south have a lot in common: both were hotbeds for secession in the 1850s, and both have resorted to hitting the bottle since the Civil War. Obviously Barney meant to say "You all forgot about Jefferson Davis!" but not vocally
Tabsy, you gotta warn me before I'm drinking something while reading a post like that 
On one of NO's 1984 gigs Barney plays Dixie inbetween songs. Gotta go listen to them now to determine which one it was.
I saw the Stars and Bars on his guitar. Rather seen a swastica. WTF was up with that? trying to get an interview?
13,000 people from my State died to keep the US in one piece. Some were my relatives.
It looks like one of those cards that used to be given away with PG Tips Tea, perhaps he has a Brazilian one also?
Mike
i think i've seen Bobby Gillespie with that guitar before...maybe they swapped or something...Dixie Narco?
Twister...if you are referring to the flag in the picture, that is not the Stars and Bars...it's a pic of the Confederate Navy Jack (often mistakenly referred to as the Confederate Battle Flag)...
The Stars and Bars has 7 stars in a blue canton...with a red bar, a white bar and another red bar in the field...and looked very similar to the U.S. Flag...
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid i think i've seen Bobby Gillespie with that guitar before...maybe they swapped or something...Dixie Narco?
hmmm... and Primal Scream's 'Give Out But Don't Give Up' cover has a confederate flag on it, mabye it's Bobby who likes this thing? 
New Order's a bunch of redneck racist bastards. I wish I'd been the first one to the "You all forgot Jefferson Davis" joke (thanks a lot, Trevor). 
Blast 'em and their careless use of contentious iconography!
Did anyone catch which particular naff macho slogan Hooky has on his teeshirt on that gig? I couldn't make it out on the DVD.
Was it the 'kill em all let god sort em out' one? (I used to think that phrase orgininated with gung ho US marine types in the vietnam era or even WW2, but apparently it was first used by the Catholic Church when dealing with heretics like the Cathars in the 12th century - 'God will know his own' is how they put it).
Originally posted by Grigori Twister...if you are referring to the flag in the picture, that is not the Stars and Bars...it's a pic of the Confederate Navy Jack (often mistakenly referred to as the Confederate Battle Flag)...The Stars and Bars has 7 stars in a blue canton...with a red bar, a white bar and another red bar in the field...and looked very similar to the U.S. Flag...
The actual battle flag, in fact, is square-ish :square: , and evolved over the course of the war. The "battle flag" is the one that currently flies (or did, unless it's been taken down yet) from the SC state house and was put up there in the early Sixties to "honor Confederate dead" (you may have noticed that the civil-rights movement was going on at the same time).
Whatever, I think it's a poor choice on Barn's part, but JD/NO have a history of taking on dubious iconography so I'm not much surprised. Being a Southerner, and one who would like to see the day come when "we can all get along" more or less, I'm not a fan of the flag itself because it's divisive. But I doubt Barney's longing for the days when Robert E. Lee used to ride through cotton fields teeming with slaves, and Jefferson Davis and Stonewall Jackson drank mint julips on the porch while Jeb Stuart did his strip-tease.......
It could have been worse, Mr Sumner could have adopted a gold lame shirt (sorry haven't worked out how to add accents yet - doh!) and waved a Union Jack, like some other Mancunian I could mention...
Originally posted by death of art It could have been worse, Mr Sumner could have adopted a gold lame shirt (sorry haven't worked out how to add accents yet - doh!) and waved a Union Jack, like some other Mancunian I could mention...
Vini Reilly?
What if it was the Reich War Flag?? How many people in the UK know what the Stars and Bars are? But then again he could be a racist. Remember he taught white boys how to dance and stold Negro music with Blue Monday.
Originally posted by twist What if it was the Reich War Flag?? How many people in the UK know what the Stars and Bars are? But then again he could be a racist. Remember he taught white boys how to dance and stold Negro music with Blue Monday.
Nah, Depeche Mode stole the black man's music. They're the bigots :D
Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by twist> What if it was the Reich War Flag?? How many people in the UK know what the Stars and Bars are? But then again he could be a racist. Remember he taught white boys how to dance and stold Negro music with Blue Monday.
Nah, Depeche Mode stole the black man's music. They're the bigots :D They're not bigots. I heard they're actually fa.....uh, nevermind.
Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > Originally posted by twist> > What if it was the Reich War Flag?? How many people in the UK know what the Stars and Bars are? But then again he could be a racist. Remember he taught white boys how to dance and stold Negro music with Blue Monday.>
Nah, Depeche Mode stole the black man's music. They're the bigots :D They're not bigots. I heard they're actually fa.....uh, nevermind. I dunno but Master and Servant makes me think twice about dave and the boys.
Originally posted by twist What if it was the Reich War Flag?? How many people in the UK know what the Stars and Bars are? But then again he could be a racist. Remember he taught white boys how to dance and stold Negro music with Blue Monday.
Well...when someone in Iowa doesn't know what the Stars & Bars are, why would I expect any of our friends across the pond to know???
And you're right, he could be a racist...he could also be a gypsy...or a twat...
I was just simply pointing out a slight inaccuracy in your post...so :p
Why the fark would I care to honor the flag by using its proper title? That is what we call them here. The only time we see them is on back of rusty trucks and in front of double wides. The Iowa Statehouse has a collection of Confederate war flags captured in battle. Currently they are being retored.
The US and the world would be a vastly different place if the South had won. And Barney would be singing in Deutsch.
Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> > > > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > > > > Originally posted by twist> > > What if it was the Reich War Flag?? How many people in the UK know what the Stars and Bars are? But then again he could be a racist. Remember he taught white boys how to dance and stold Negro music with Blue Monday.> > >
Nah, Depeche Mode stole the black man's music. They're the bigots :D They're not bigots. I heard they're actually fa.....uh, nevermind. I dunno but Master and Servant makes me think twice about dave and the boys. The video maybe, but the song is more masochistic than anything. It's a lot like life....
I must point out that across the pond, many people only know the confederate flag/stars and bars from "The Dukes of Hazzard".
But then I expect they were in the Klan when they weren't upsetting old Boss Hog.
Originally posted by death of art I must point out that across the pond, many people only know the confederate flag/stars and bars from "The Dukes of Hazzard".But then I expect they were in the Klan when they weren't upsetting old Boss Hog.
the south shall burn again.....
the southern united states should be sold to mexico, especially lower texas, new mexico, arizona and southern california. louisiana, arkansas, mississippi, and florida need to be set on fire. if i never had to go south of san francisco i'd be a very, very happy man...if the south didn't exist (at least not in it's currently repressed state) we'd all be better off.
OK I saw the CSA national flag today in a photoshop[ competition. Sort of a USA type with thick red and white stripes and a circle of stars in the blue area. Is that what you are referring to as the Stars and Bars? Hell, they could fly that off any Statehouse and nobody, except Southern white males and the Nation of Islam would know what it was.
Originally posted by twist OK I saw the CSA national flag today in a photoshop[ competition. Sort of a USA type with thick red and white stripes and a circle of stars in the blue area. Is that what you are referring to as the Stars and Bars? Hell, they could fly that off any Statehouse and nobody, except Southern white males and the Nation of Islam would know what it was.
hmm...that's a highly intellectual statement, did you come up with that one on your own???
actually, anyone who has done much more than required reading on the civil war would probably know the difference between the two flags...I've got a friend, who is female, and not southern at all (she's lived in Ohio her entire frigging life), who could tell you straight up that the flag on Barney's electric twanger was not the stars and bars...or is she just some ignorant redneck as well???
BFD someone can distinguish one 100+ year old defunct flag from another. Not a Civil War buff. Pardon my ignorance, you smartee you.
maybe you should go back to talking about something you know about...like your frigging Jag...you condescending little shit...
Originally posted by One Brain I thought you were crazy but it actually looks a bit like the Confederate flag.
something more disturbing than the confederate flag is barneys breats in that picture, he needs a Bra! his are as big as gillians!
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid the south shall burn again.....the southern united states should be sold to mexico, especially lower texas, new mexico, arizona and southern california. louisiana, arkansas, mississippi, and florida need to be set on fire. if i never had to go south of san francisco i'd be a very, very happy man...if the south didn't exist (at least not in it's currently repressed state) we'd all be better off.
what's wrong with south of SF? What are you scared of, Dodger fans shooting Giant fans in Dodger Stadium? You can stay up north; I'll just enjoy sunny san diego while you freeze your arse off 
. What's wrong with lower Texas, it is northern Texas that is full of hicks. Arkansas produced Bill and Hillary, so that can state can be disposed of, especially the northern region of the Ozarks 
. Mississippi has Biloxi so it's cool. New Mexico grows hot chilis so it's cool, plus it is a haven for cast off Texan Democrats 
. Louisiana has New Orleans, plus it is the home state of Britney Spears 
. I agree that Florida should be removed, for it has overrated college football teams, Disney World, too many old people, and it is humid as fook down there; Castro would gladly accept Florida.
Jesus Grigori, chill out. Local venacular in my State calls what is painted on the top of the General Lee the Stars&Bars. We studied the reasons behind and the implications of the war not the regalia.
Sherman let you keep your guns, remember?
