Is anybody really that bothered about a new album? — Forum Archive

13 Feb 2004, 10:58

Sorry.......playing Devils advocate again.

13 Feb 2004, 11:07

I was terrified when they announced they were working on the record that eventually became "Get Ready" 'cos I was certain it'd be absolute shite - in the end, tho', and despite its flaws, its miles better than it had any right to be, so I'm quite looking forward to the new 'un.

For many of us, however, the new record is mostly the stepping stone to a new batch of gigs - see you all down the front!

13 Feb 2004, 11:19

Nah i couldn't give a toss, I agree with Martin, live gigs is where it's at maaaan

13 Feb 2004, 11:38

Yes

13 Feb 2004, 11:46

:nod:

13 Feb 2004, 12:03

Of course we are...

Otherwise we'd be like Elvis fans, trying to find a way to get new recordings by ressurecting the songs he did when he was 5 years old :D

New material can only be good news, altough it's the first one they do as a trio, which might be a little sad.

13 Feb 2004, 12:10

Originally posted by martin fradley I was terrified when they announced they were working on the record that eventually became "Get Ready" 'cos I was certain it'd be absolute shite - in the end, tho', and despite its flaws, its miles better than it had any right to be, so I'm quite looking forward to the new 'un.

well put...couldn't agree more.

13 Feb 2004, 12:10

Originally posted by Spotnick Of course we are...Otherwise we'd be like Elvis fans, trying to find a way to get new recordings by ressurecting the songs he did when he was 5 years old :DNew material can only be good news, altough it's the first one they do as a trio, which might be a little sad.

Elvis Costello fans? :confused:

:p

13 Feb 2004, 12:19

Lets put it this way, I will look forward to it more than any other album since the last NewOrder album came out!!!

As for gigs, even the slightest sniff of a chance that we might get to hear some of their classics we missed out on in their last live batch fills me with complete excitement. :D

13 Feb 2004, 13:00

YES :nod:

13 Feb 2004, 13:16

Not really. But it's a means to an end. New product equals new gigs to promote said product, or so you'd hope. Why they can't do a mini-tour now though is beyond me. A little something to sustain our interest. Gigs generally sell the back catalogue as well, but they're obviously doing alright on that score at the moment..

13 Feb 2004, 13:37

Originally posted by Digital Mike Nah i couldn't give a toss, I agree with Martin, live gigs is where it's at maaaan

I think you will find Mike that new material is required for the gigs :D I was listening to Confusion (original) the other day and found myself getting a little bored! :violent: :sleep2:

13 Feb 2004, 13:42

Originally posted by Slippy I think you will find Mike that new material is required for the gigs I was listening to Confusion (original) the other day and found myself getting a little bored!

Go listen to Transmission, Ceremony or Temptation again then, Slippy!

They're never gonna write anything to rival those tracks again!

13 Feb 2004, 13:45

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Slippy> > I think you will find Mike that new material is required for the gigs I was listening to Confusion (original) the other day and found myself getting a little bored!

Go listen to Transmission, Ceremony or Temptation again then, Slippy!

They're never gonna write anything to rival those tracks again!

I even found myself listening to BM88 the other day :nonono:

13 Feb 2004, 14:17

Slippy , Blue Monday is shite, They have enogh songs to tour with.

All I am saying is the live experience is better than the tame records they put out.

13 Feb 2004, 14:24

Mike...we all know that you prefer live to albums...now if you say it ONE more time, I'm gonna come break your other hand!!!

(I would just like to let everyone know, I have no intention of breaking anyones hand. I abhor violence. I would use a smilie, but I think I might be overusing those :wink: !)

13 Feb 2004, 14:31

Al Don't forget HURT and AGE OF CONSENT

MIKE

13 Feb 2004, 14:36

it one more time :evil4:

13 Feb 2004, 14:39

FREE

Have you seen New Order live in a small UK venue? Especially circa 84-86 , if so you know the reason why live beats the vinyl offerings

Mike

13 Feb 2004, 14:55

sure i'd like to hear some new material. i don't listen to their later albums as often as the 1981-1982-brotherhood years, but i'd be lying if i said i wouldn't walk on glass to get to a new NO album if it came out.

13 Feb 2004, 15:04

Originally posted by Digital Mike FREEHave you seen New Order live in a small UK venue?Especially circa 84-86 , if so you know the reason why live beats the vinyl offeringsMike

nope...not fortunate enough to have seen any gigs in England until 2001...so no small venues...

and all my U.S. gigs have been at the obligatory Amphitheatres...

maybe that's why I like the albums!!!

13 Feb 2004, 15:25

sort of a six and two threes.

mike is correct and 84-87 was fantastic but any new vinyl offerings will be worthwile and ultimately cherished.

any gig creates memories and for me sitting in an ampitheatre in a beautiful location would probably be nicer than getting crushed to death in some pokey hole..

but then again !!!

13 Feb 2004, 15:29

Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL sort of a six and two threes.mike is correct and 84-87 was fantastic but any new vinyl offerings will be worthwile and ultimately cherished.any gig creates memories and for me sitting in an ampitheatre in a beautiful location would probably be nicer than getting crushed to death in some pokey hole..but then again !!!

i'd rather face the perils of getting crushed, myself (as much as i despise it). i'm not one for breaking out the binoculars. red rocks being the only exception!

13 Feb 2004, 15:44

Originally posted by AgentWood i'd be lying if i said i wouldn't walk on glass to get to a new NO album if it came out.

My sentiments exactly.

13 Feb 2004, 15:50

Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL sort of a six and two threes.mike is correct and 84-87 was fantastic but any new vinyl offerings will be worthwile and ultimately cherished.any gig creates memories and for me sitting in an ampitheatre in a beautiful location would probably be nicer than getting crushed to death in some pokey hole..but then again !!!

amphitheatres blow!!! just wish I hadn't been such a lightweight at Finsbury...couldn't last down in the mass of humanity surging back and forth...besides...the beer tent was off to the side!!!

13 Feb 2004, 16:27

Anybody who isn't shouldn't be reading this.

13 Feb 2004, 18:20

Come on Mike, share some of those 350 odd live cds you have. Email me so we can make arrangements.

I tend to agree with you, I prefer listening to the live stuff but I look forward to the new album for three reasons.

More New Order songs
New New Order songs I have never heard
Chance that they will gig to pimp the album hence a chance to see them live

13 Feb 2004, 19:53

i want new albums, singles, b-sides, etc. some of you who talk about just seeing them at a festival sound really jaded. i can't fly to the west coast to stand around all day at a festival and they don't care about being in any other part of the country. cds are the closest some of us ever get to them.

13 Feb 2004, 22:16

since they may well not tour the US again, i'm all down for a new album. :D

14 Feb 2004, 06:19

They may never write anything as good as Temptation, Ceremony or Transmission again but neither are they going to perform with the same intensity as they did in the past. Given a choice of a concert by numbers featuring 4 or 5 Get Ready tracks, the crappy BLT and True Faith versions or new material of the standard of Soundtrack or Here To Stay. It's got to be new material. It won't cost £120 and I won't have to plough through a muddy field to get to it.

14 Feb 2004, 07:29

Too right. We all love music & other bands,but i dont wait with baited breath for anyone elses albums.

14 Feb 2004, 10:27

The sooner the lazy bastards get the album out, the sooner they will tour, and the sooner we can all meet up for plenty of beer at the gigs.

Today's theme : Sooner Than You Think? :D

14 Feb 2004, 10:32

Originally posted by Spotnick Of course we are...Otherwise we'd be like Elvis fans, trying to find a way to get new recordings by ressurecting the songs he did when he was 5 years old :DNew material can only be good news, altough it's the first one they do as a trio, which might be a little sad.

Call of history: the first recordings of "Ceremony" and "In a lonely place" were made by Barney, Hooky and Steve, and almost a year later would they re-record them with Gillian - and they did play a couple of gigs as well as a trio back in '80-'81. (From Claude Flowers' biography.)

14 Feb 2004, 10:34

And of course we're dead excited about a new album coming out in june. :D

14 Feb 2004, 10:37

Keith, man, obviously you like to call attention by pissing everyone else off, but do tell us: do you even like Joy Division/New Order in the first place? :skeptic: I mean, what's wrong with you? :nuts:

14 Feb 2004, 11:24

Originally posted by FAC442 And of course we're dead excited about a new album coming out in june. :D

Maybe I should push back the date from the discography :nonono:

14 Feb 2004, 11:29

I said june? I must have been thinking about "You are the quarry"... :laugh:

14 Feb 2004, 21:08

Why would anybody not interested in a new NO album visit this forum?

15 Feb 2004, 01:12

suggesting they can't write anything as good as Bizarre Love Triangle, Ceremony etc. again neglects the amazing music on Get Ready. Primitive Notion is pure New Order. As good as they get. The intro to Someone Like You is amazing and if it weren't for the chorus that would be a genuine classic too. Crystal rivals Regret and has a better bassline. I completely believe they are able to write another masterpiece (or two). Vietnam has completely grown on me making the last two songs they released (Here To Stay + Vietnam) excellent tracks. i expect an album that has about 60percent quality music and 40percent filler. I'd be happy with that breakdown. anything over that would be bonus.

15 Feb 2004, 01:13

Originally posted by FAC442 I said june? I must have been thinking about "You are the quarry"...

That's May! :nod: :evil4: :clap:

15 Feb 2004, 04:33

Twist , you have email

15 Feb 2004, 07:43

Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid suggesting they can't write anything as good as Bizarre Love Triangle, Ceremony etc. again neglects the amazing music on Get Ready. Primitive Notion is pure New Order. As good as they get. The intro to Someone Like You is amazing and if it weren't for the chorus that would be a genuine classic too. Crystal rivals Regret and has a better bassline. I completely believe they are able to write another masterpiece (or two). Vietnam has completely grown on me making the last two songs they released (Here To Stay + Vietnam) excellent tracks. i expect an album that has about 60percent quality music and 40percent filler. I'd be happy with that breakdown. anything over that would be bonus.

I agree and also love the SOUNDTRACK for SAVILLE.They are well capable of writing GENIUS songs again.Keep the faith.I am almost 46 now and i still get a buzz when NEW ORDER are mentioned.Never give up on a good thing(Sorry MR BENSON!).

15 Feb 2004, 07:54

Originally posted by FAC442 I said june? I must have been thinking about "You are the quarry"...

Who cares? I wish hed bury himself in one.

15 Feb 2004, 09:20

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> suggesting they can't write anything as good as Bizarre Love Triangle, Ceremony etc. again neglects the amazing music on Get Ready. Primitive Notion is pure New Order. As good as they get. The intro to Someone Like You is amazing and if it weren't for the chorus that would be a genuine classic too. Crystal rivals Regret and has a better bassline. I completely believe they are able to write another masterpiece (or two). Vietnam has completely grown on me making the last two songs they released (Here To Stay + Vietnam) excellent tracks. i expect an album that has about 60percent quality music and 40percent filler. I'd be happy with that breakdown. anything over that would be bonus.

I agree and also love the SOUNDTRACK for SAVILLE.They are well capable of writing GENIUS songs again.Keep the faith.I am almost 46 now and i still get a buzz when NEW ORDER are mentioned.Never give up on a good thing(Sorry MR BENSON!).

You don't look a day over 45!:D

15 Feb 2004, 11:15

:clap: :clap: Cheers TRACEY! :jawdrop:

15 Feb 2004, 11:15

Originally posted by Digital Mike FREEHave you seen New Order live in a small UK venue?Especially circa 84-86 , if so you know the reason why live beats the vinyl offeringsMike

I was at the Woolwich Coronet gig April 87 :D Fantastic :love2:

Like a lot of people have said, I am looking forward to new material but most of all to see them live again. Especially as my young lady from Zagreb (Not Julijana) is finally coming over and she is looking forward to seeing them in England, especially as she saw them in Berlin a couple of years ago.

15 Feb 2004, 11:22

Me and Mick are looking forward to a new album so we can meet up for some KFC and rucksack shopping!!!:p

15 Feb 2004, 11:48

Originally posted by FREE JEFF THE CHEF! Me and Mick are looking forward to a new album so we can meet up for some KFC and rucksack shopping!!!:p

Sounds like a proper first date

16 Feb 2004, 05:05

Originally posted by Kevin Smith > Originally posted by Digital Mike> FREE> > Have you seen New Order live in a small UK venue?> Especially circa 84-86 , if so you know the reason why live beats the vinyl offerings> > > Mike

I was at the Woolwich Coronet gig April 87 :D Fantastic :love2:

Like a lot of people have said, I am looking forward to new material but most of all to see them live again. Especially as my young lady from Zagreb (Not Julijana) is finally coming over and she is looking forward to seeing them in England, especially as she saw them in Berlin a couple of years ago.

Any idea how is she going to obtain the visa ? I must admit it puts me off visiting England for gigs.

Of course I'm looking for the next album...what would be the point of following New Order otherwise ? It'll probably not be as good as their best moments, but it might be very good nevertheless, better than most other things out there.

16 Feb 2004, 12:04

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak > Originally posted by Kevin Smith> > > > Originally posted by Digital Mike> > FREE> > > > Have you seen New Order live in a small UK venue?> > Especially circa 84-86 , if so you know the reason why live beats the vinyl offerings> > > > > > Mike>

I was at the Woolwich Coronet gig April 87 :D Fantastic :love2:

Like a lot of people have said, I am looking forward to new material but most of all to see them live again. Especially as my young lady from Zagreb (Not Julijana) is finally coming over and she is looking forward to seeing them in England, especially as she saw them in Berlin a couple of years ago.

Any idea how is she going to obtain the visa ? I must admit it puts me off visiting England for gigs.

Of course I'm looking for the next album...what would be the point of following New Order otherwise ? It'll probably not be as good as their best moments, but it might be very good nevertheless, better than most other things out there.

Apparently you no longer need a Visa, this changed a few months ago, I got a rather happy text message from her at that time.