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Should there be an Ian Curtis Statue In Manchester

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I think a statue on the lines of a sort of 3d mural, depicting ALL the great and good of mancfester's tuneful, would be an infinitetly better idea, Manchester has contributed so much to music, that it would not be fair to single Ian out for such treatment. For one thing, it could be argued that in terms of "impact on music the world over" NO are far more important than JD. And for another, as has already been mentioned, they were PUNKS, punks don't do civic recognition. Someone mentioned Turing, he should have a pretty serious monument. I frequent a lot of newsgroups that are plagued by the dumber end of the citizenry of the US, the sort of people who are obsessed with calling everyone and everything gay/faggot etc. HOW MUCH do I enjoy telling them that the machine they are using to deseminate their dim-witted hatred was created by a card carrying chutney ferret. Doesn't seem to worry them tho, as with all stupid Americans[1] they think they invented the computer, the jet engine, the satellite etc.

Hmmm I seem to be wandering, anyway, you get the picture.

[1]that's as in "all Americans who are stupid" as opposed to "all Americans are stupid"

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how many people in dublin have read oscar wilde or jimmy joyce?

i dont see the "he isnt famous" point, i do however see it as nice cementing over of recent history, and proberbally a bit painful for friends / family.

plus, it just seem unfitting. i dont know why.

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Originally posted by Clockwork C how many people in dublin have read oscar wilde or jimmy joyce?i dont see the "he isnt famous" point, i do however see it as nice cementing over of recent history, and proberbally a bit painful for friends / family.plus, it just seem unfitting. i dont know why.

Jimmy scares me shitless; never was there a book I wanted to stop reading more than Portrait of an Artist As a Young Man, but Heart of Darkness comes close to my hatred of James Joyce

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well i say get a statue up but if only the rest of em get one as well,ie:steve,barney,hooky and gillian and have em dotted around manchester,and make em interactive ie: chuck ten bob in and you get a blast of a track ect. or ian does a flailing dance:eek3:,barney falls over,hooky chucks something at you steve goes all shy and hides behind his kit and gillian drops another bum note.:evil4:

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Originally posted by mike powell well i say get a statue up but if only the rest of em get one as well,ie:steve,barney,hooky and gillian and have em dotted around manchester,and make em interactive ie: chuck ten bob in and you get a blast of a track ect.or ian does a flailing dance:eek3:,barney falls over,hooky chucks something at you steve goes all shy and hides behind his kit and gillian drops another bum note.:evil4:

The new anamatronic attraction at EuroDisneyland?

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Originally posted by Clockwork C how many people in dublin have read oscar wilde or jimmy joyce? i dont see the "he isnt famous" point,

*I agree, here in Parma it's full of statues of artistically important people which aren't really known except for just being on those pedestals. Then once in a while there's a show at the museum and people go sayin' "Oh, he's that bloke of that statue in that square", but they know nothing about him before going. It's a good way to teach people about artists which were more important than famous, in true Tony Wilson spirit ("I want the most important bands, not the most famous")... it's just that those artists lived centuries ago, while for Ian it's too soon right now...

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I'd lean towards yes honestly. But A definate yes for a better gravestone.

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Originally posted by Razed In A New Division Of Agony I'd lean towards yes honestly. But A definate yes for a better gravestone.

Erm... why?

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a mosiac of new order / joy division at afflecks palace would be cool. after all mr.wilson features in one of them. tony being in one of the originals and steve coogan as tony in the 20th anniversary one.

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No, but they could rename Macclesfield train station after him

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Nothing needs naming after him. Full stop.

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Originally posted by Detweiler 3.63 Nothing needs naming after him. Full stop.

BANG ON.

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How about a Ian Pinata hanging from town square?

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:nonono: tastless...

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Originally posted by facseven How about a Ian Pinata hanging from town square?

What kind of candy do you suppose would come out of the pinata?

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ones with no taste

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Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by facseven> How about a Ian Pinata hanging from town square?

What kind of candy do you suppose would come out of the pinata?

Skittles! Ian seemed like a Skittles type of guy. :laugh:

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What about a statue of Ian in Macclesfield, that way every ones a winner, you get a statue, for those who want one, but not in Manchester. Perhaps Manchester can have a statue of Oswald Mosley!!

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Originally posted by Dario Gradi MBE What about a statue of Ian in Macclesfield, that way every ones a winner, you get a statue, for those who want one, but not in Manchester. Perhaps Manchester can have a statue of Oswald Mosley!!

They already have a street named after him [Mosley, not Curtis], that's enough!.

The whole memorial idea is weak. For the great songs IC contributed to, amongst a wider audience his name is more closely linked to his suicide than anything else, sad but true. That's not a positive reason for a permanent reminder.

As a few on here have identified, the rest of the band have contributed far more both musically and reputationally to the city of Manchester. Is ICs 2 year career really worth more than Barney, Hooky and Steve's 25 years??.

There must be more suitable Mancunian candidates [sorry] for this kind of thing.....L S Lowry, Alan Turing, Alex Staszko, add your own names.

Kick over the statues.

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No!.Stupid idea!

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:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

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Originally posted by Dario Gradi MBE What about a statue of Ian in Macclesfield, that way every ones a winner, you get a statue, for those who want one, but not in Manchester. Perhaps Manchester can have a statue of Oswald Mosley!!

Or indeed his son, young Maxwell Mosely, head of the FIA, and responsible for the current state of Formula 1, the way he hands the rules out, you'd think he subscribed to papa's views. :-)

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