Vinyl VS. compact disc.

Originally posted by TLV > Originally posted by Bentley> For the record, I record at 24 bit to take advantage of the headroom and better sound but leave the sampling rate at 44.1. 44.1 sounds fine to me with the stuff I do.

I was going to add that comment that you want to keep a high bit-resolution when working with a track, and then in the mix-down take it down to 44.1k/16bit.

BTW: There are nice sound-cards for your computer handling 96k/24bit. Hammerhead is a name that pops into my mind. You're looking at 200-600USD.

Is there a difference between 44.1k and 96k? Well, my old DJ-ears have gone deaf and I can't really tell the diff. My audiophile-friend claims that it's like day and night. He is of course not really into electronic music... He also prefers DVD-Audio to SA-CD...

What do I want? I want all the New Order videos released on DVD. Preferrably with 5.1 sound. :D

/TLV

If you've recorded at 24bit, it' always best to save dithering down as the last step when it's mastered leaving your file at as high a resolution as possible.

The difference between 44.1 and 96 isn't that significant for the casual end listener, especially for rock oriented genres. Again, it all depends on the conversion... I've heard great a/d/a converters that sounded better at 16bit/44.1 than bad converters at 24/96. Again, it's all subjective to your own ears and far be it from me to argue differently.

Since FAC 93 has never been released entirely in CD format, I recorded it via Sound Forge to a CD-R. And I really love to listen to those early 80s vinyl records.

I think big beat records (CDs) sound great cos they try to catch that old vinyl upbeat feel.:p

P.S. Just use your vinyl records carefully and they will remain fine.

i like vinyl covers. sometimes.

unknown pleasures/ closer - vinyl looks better

republic - cd fold out looks better.

Originally posted by Bentley Fantastic! What you're really gaining with a good masteing engineer is not just the fancy gadgets, but hopefully an experienced listener who can help make your recording sound it's best and knows what to do... but most importantly, what not to do. Let us know how it turns out! :)

This mix can be heard as I mastered it in my home studio at www.EuthanasiaRemix.co.uk in horrible mp3 and Real Audio formats, but I've still yet to hear the professionally mastered versions. There's just a lo-fi streamable version and an mp3 clip, as Hackpen Records own the copyright to this song. It's going to feature on Bonemachine's debut single, 'Another Day Over' in June, which is a bit of a corker. A very promising electronic band well worth checking out.

But, nevertheless very off topic (and off this thread!) - apologies.

Andy

Originally posted by Kevin Smith I prefer the sonic quality of vinyl but tend to play Cd for the convenience. As well as knowing that every time I play vinyl, I am heading towards replacing the cartridge. At over £500 a time, that is a lot of money.My turntable wipes the floor with my Cd player. Naim-audio CD3.5 with a Flatcap 2 external power supply vs. Linn Sondek LP12, Troika cartridge, Ittok arm, Circus, Naim-audio Prefix phonostage also powered by the Naim Flatcap 2. The price differential really shows, it is so much more involving to hear vinyl.

Mine is not as good as yours I guess: Linn Axis/Akito arm/K9 cartridge connected to Quad66/306 amplifier and Rogers LS3/5A speakers. I guess with "more involving" you also imply the time you spend on listening to vinyl. It requires more effort to put a Lp/12"/7" on the turntable. I don't use it that much but if I do it is for listening: Unknown Pleasures, Closer, Warsaw, PC&L, Low Life, Confusion, 1981-1982 and a lot of other vinyl. I've also been considering replacing the cartridge but hey that's a lot of money.

my old vinyl don't play in my car. i can play my car loud. digital has some good points.

and i'm scared to play my old vinyl anymore... just make it more used, usually not worth the bother anymore i must admit. vinyl often just blows away the same on CD, much more of tactile feel, such sharper contrasts, essential for a record like Unknown Pleasures for example.

Originally posted by Folkert > Originally posted by Kevin Smith> I prefer the sonic quality of vinyl but tend to play Cd for the convenience. As well as knowing that every time I play vinyl, I am heading towards replacing the cartridge. At over £500 a time, that is a lot of money.> > My turntable wipes the floor with my Cd player. Naim-audio CD3.5 with a Flatcap 2 external power supply vs. Linn Sondek LP12, Troika cartridge, Ittok arm, Circus, Naim-audio Prefix phonostage also powered by the Naim Flatcap 2. The price differential really shows, it is so much more involving to hear vinyl.

Mine is not as good as yours I guess: Linn Axis/Akito arm/K9 cartridge connected to Quad66/306 amplifier and Rogers LS3/5A speakers. I guess with "more involving" you also imply the time you spend on listening to vinyl. It requires more effort to put a Lp/12"/7" on the turntable. I don't use it that much but if I do it is for listening: Unknown Pleasures, Closer, Warsaw, PC&L, Low Life, Confusion, 1981-1982 and a lot of other vinyl. I've also been considering replacing the cartridge but hey that's a lot of money.

The K9 has now been replaced but I can't remember what by.

When I switch from 45 to 33 I need to remove the adaptor (no Lingo yet :\ohwell:) and the shorter playing times for each side means I can't just get on with typing a letter, surfing or something else as I need to flip the disc or change it. It also seems to draw me more into the music with the way it is presented so I like to set aside time for listening to it. Naimaudio 112/150 Hicap amp combo and Mission 751F speakers.

A friend used to have the LS3 speakers but they didn't like Atmosphere at all, they nearly popped and sounded dreadful, they couldn't handle the bass very well so the heavy drum beat caused chaos. Think he had a 72/180 Hicap combo at the time.