Would New Order carry on if Stephen Morris left?

Strange question I know, but hey, it could happen. The three of em carried on regardless when Gillian quit to tend to her & Stephens ill daughter. I think its a shame overall, as, though we have been given a brand new album & three very good new singles since Mrs. Morris left, I dont think post-Gillian NewOrder will ever be as good as what they were from 1981-1993.

Seeing Gill on '3 16' made me realise how much I miss her talents. In the 1998 reformation, N.O still seemed like a proper "together" band, ready to make new music with the exact same line-up as all those years previously. But fast-forward to 2002, Finsbury Park & all that.... N.O to me appeared like a cross between Pink Floyd & a tribute outfit, with their oh-so-important backing singer, session guitarist & guest appearance from some boring actor. But Barn & Hooky seemed to be having so much fun, its almost like Gills place in the band never even happened

Being that, in most bands, if a drummer quits, he just gets replaced rather than the band parting ways totally, I actually think that if Steve was to join his wife in retirement, Messrs. Sumner & Hook would still put out N.O records in some fashion. Whether thats right or wrong is a matter of opinion, but to me, it would dilute even further an already-watered down version of what was once upon a time, the greatest band on the planet, bar none.

They would finally call it a day, little doubt in my mind. He's an integral part of everything they do.

Would you be able to have a shit if the hole in your arse sealed up? No.

Originally posted by SP1 Would you be able to have a shit if the hole in your arse sealed up? No.

Seems to me you think Steve is more important than what Gill was, which I don`t think is the case. What makes Morris so indispensible wheras Gilbert is now just a distant memory?

Yeah but he's not going to leave is he? If he was, he would have bailed by now surely?

I dont think hes less/more important,i just think itd be a push too far. Look at Oasis now,they should split while they still have some credibility.

It would be an irreplaceable loss, Barney and Hooky should all call it quits right if Stephen decides to wrap it up.

God forbid that this would happen but if it did, then it would have to be farewell to Neworder. Steve is a vital part of what makes Neworder better than the sum of it's "side projects".

I only hope the loss of Gillian doesn't detract too much from the much awaited new tracks - but that is a matter for many other threads.

Were Gillian important or not, but we all know that New Order were "formed" in the summer 1980 by three you-know-who guys. So the core of the band as it is now is what it was in the original. All in all, Steve is essential.

I think Steve does alot more than drumming. TYhink Blue Monday could have seen the light of day without Steve?? Or TPK???

Originally posted by James Stephen Barnes > Originally posted by SP1> Would you be able to have a shit if the hole in your arse sealed up? No.

Seems to me you think Steve is more important than what Gill was, which I don`t think is the case. What makes Morris so indispensible wheras Gilbert is now just a distant memory?

Oh come on ! You want an honest answer ? Steve can play his instrument(s) !!

Originally posted by Detweiler 3.63 > Originally posted by James Stephen Barnes> > > > Originally posted by SP1> > Would you be able to have a shit if the hole in your arse sealed up? No. >

Seems to me you think Steve is more important than what Gill was, which I don`t think is the case. What makes Morris so indispensible wheras Gilbert is now just a distant memory?

Oh come on ! You want an honest answer ? Steve can play his instrument(s) !! plus his streaming sweat is irreplacable

I don't know if they could carry on if Steve were to leave; it just wouldn't be right. Doesn't look like he's quitting any time soon, though.

Hell no. Stevie was in JD and there's no way they could do without him.

maybe a screen with the Steve bobblehead .gif that Wen made could work

Steve leave? How can you even contemplate such a thought. Yes, he would be irreplacable, especially when it comes to writing the tunes. Him and Hookey make a great combination.

i would hope not. it wouldnt think the remaining group would "really" be New Order anymore, in my mind

Originally posted by pumped full of drugs i would hope not. it wouldnt think the remaining group would "really" be New Order anymore, in my mind

So if Steve killed himself, for example, they'd have to change their name again. And Hooky would take over on vocals.

They'd have to call themselves The Two, or The First Two... :D

I very much doubt Steve will leave, this thread was just one of those "What If...?" scenario thingies.

I`m disappointed none of you are classing Gillian as important as Steve though (or as important as Barn & Pete, for that matter). I agree with what someone said earlier on in this thread that N.O are back to the "original" line-up of Sumner, Hook & Morris who formed in 1980, & that Gill was never an original member of the band.

But they still decided to bring Gill into the fold the following year, didn`t they? To me, that makes her as important as the Other Three, regardless of whether she was there from the start or not.

Originally posted by James Stephen Barnes But they still decided to bring Gill into the fold the following year, didn`t they? To me, that makes her as important as the Other Three, regardless of whether she was there from the start or not.

They needed someone to play second guitar, occasional synths and to trigger the sequencer. Gillian fitted the bill as she didn't have any preconceived ideas about how a band worked. In that respect she was an important part of the live set-up, but nobody has ever convinced me that she played any kind of role in songwriting or developing the sound as we know it now.

Blimey at last a post from you of reasonable interest

If Steve left then the curtains would be drawn on NewOrders illustrious history im certain of that.

But he aint gonna leave!! not before Barney does anyway ;)

Originally posted by The DoN Blimey at last a post from you of reasonable interest ;)

Charming! And I thought all my posts were interesting....

Steve plays keyboards too remember? Although all of them can apparently... But obviously choose not to live!

Essential member. I think Barney once commented he was the "Mad Professor" of the bunch. Without him, New Order would not be New Order.

if you've ever been in a band, you'd know that founding members have to stay together in order to keep the momentum going. steve leaves and they're done for.

Morris has a very unique and great drumming style which dominated the Joy Divsion sound along with Hooky's bass playing. If Morris left New Order it would be very very hard to replace him. I think he is a great drummer and probably one of the most underated in the music industry.

I don't think it could be New Order without Steve. The drum style is too integral and it would turn into a tribute act after that.