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Just seeing the video (for the first time ever) reminded me of something.

In the Middles Book, it says something about various england footballers of the time rapping on World in Motion. Is this true? And if it is, has anyone actually heard the rumoured peter Beardsley rap?

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No. I do know it was John Barnes rapping on WIM though. :shrug:

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Think they all had a go,but Barnsey being,er,you know he had the most natural rhythm! Shite footie player though,spent a career on the bench!

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Good goal against Brazil - maybe one of the top goals of all time. But then he was shit from then on!

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John Barnes double footballer of the year shite? My arse. Best player at Liverpool since Dalglish. Perhaps Gerrard is getting close to surpassing him

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Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© John Barnes double footballer of the year shite? My arse. Best player at Liverpool since Dalglish. Perhaps Gerrard is getting close to surpassing him

Barnes was a great player. Shite coach though.:nod:

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He might be one of my idols but I couldn't bear the thought of Pedro Beardsley rapping. Horrible thoughts of Gazza in his shell suit happily rapping his way through 'Fog on the Tyne' have already come flooding back!!!

Thought John Barnes did a good job on World in Motion but he already had some form from 'The Anfield Rap' at that point!!

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As a Man United fan, I can testify that for Liverpool, John Barnes was a f***ing awesome player.

He didn't do much for England after THAT Brasil goal, but to call him shite, you'd need to be referring to his TV presenting on Channel 5:rofl:

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Originally posted by Uncle Liam Just seeing the video (for the first time ever) reminded me of something. In the Middles Book, it says something about various england footballers of the time rapping on World in Motion. Is this true? And if it is, has anyone actually heard the rumoured peter Beardsley rap?

Since nobody answered. Apparently it's a rumour, the World In Motion B-Side features various people on the rap, but apparently, it's not the team rapping...

I vaguely remember a topic on that subject a few years ago... :shrug:

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quite a few of the team had a go at the rap,the gazza one is supposed to be hilarious (that bad),hooky has promised in the past that it will see the light of day,one day?.

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To answer the question I'll quote Peter Hook on Q magazine, June 2002 (it's a 3-page article about making "World In Motion").

None of the footballers showed any signs of musical talent, except Barnes. Gascoigne's rap was awful, Beardsley just terrible, but Barnes saved the day.

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Originally posted by One Brain To answer the question I'll quote Peter Hook on Q magazine, June 2002 (it's a 3-page article about making "World In Motion").None of the footballers showed any signs of musical talent, except Barnes. Gascoigne's rap was awful, Beardsley just terrible, but Barnes saved the day.

wow. if barnes' rap was considered the best, i'm dying to hear the train wrecks the others must have produced--especially if their rapping talent is reflected in their 'dancing' in the video!:laugh:

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well...you know Gazza had to be drunk when he did his...so I reckon the words were slurred...

kind of like having a telephone conversation with me!!!

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Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Uncle Liam> Just seeing the video (for the first time ever) reminded me of something. > > In the Middles Book, it says something about various england footballers of the time rapping on World in Motion. Is this true? And if it is, has anyone actually heard the rumoured peter Beardsley rap?

Since nobody answered. Apparently it's a rumour, the World In Motion B-Side features various people on the rap, but apparently, it's not the team rapping...

I haven't listened to this in ages, but one of the b-sides featured a line each from various players, didn't it? Certainly Beardsley was included in that.

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well, the 7" B-side does have various voices on the rap. don´t know if they´re the players though. could be all Keith Allen´s creation :shrug:

now, i think Gazza would have make it better. i mean, he was the top player and he seemed having a pretty good time in the video. i mean, i don´t mind a little more "passion" over "rap skills", if you know what i mean. ;)

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Originally posted by almanso well, the 7" B-side does have various voices on the rap. don´t know if they´re the players though. could be all Keith Allen´s creation.

They're definitely the players.

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No, no, it's Keith Allen doing 'impressions' of the different players rapping. Read the credits: 'Naff football shouts and JB impersonation by Keith Allen.'

I've always got the impression that 'The B-Side' mix was the original demo that New Order did with Keith Allen, before the players got involved and Stephen Hague produced the final version. Think about it - they would have had to play a 'rough' version of the song to the England squad, for them to learn the rap and when to chant at the end! Definitely Keith Allen on that mix, though.

Andy.

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Originally posted by Mr Discography No, no, it's Keith Allen doing 'impressions' of the different players rapping. Read the credits: 'Naff football shouts and JB impersonation by Keith Allen.'

No, I know what Keith Allen sounds like, and I do know it's him running around going "On me head, son," and "my name is John Barnes" and suchlike, but there defo IS a mix with a line sung by each of the players. And they each sound awful.

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Nah, it's definitely Keith Allen doing impersonations of all of them - that's why he doesn't sound like how you know he sounds like: he's doing impressions. Besides which, the England squad are named in the credits for the single mix, but not in the credits for The B-Side mix. The tone of the voice doing the rap is the same, despite the several different 'styles' of voice - i.e. it's one person doing them all.

I'm willing to bet this was the original demo played to the squad to give them an idea of how the tune goes.

Andy

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The "b - side" yeah has Keith Allen saying a couple of things like "my name is John Barnes - whats yours?" but some of the other stuff on it is definitely some of the players.And they sound so shit its good!.Who the hell is the player who chips in with "you must defend and attack" ?.He sounds a bit like Alan Ball although its not him obviously but a similar sounding voice.Keith Allen is a good impersonator but its not him on all the talking/rap parts on the b side.

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Originally posted by Voice Of Treason . The "b - side" yeah has Keith Allen saying a couple of things like "my name is John Barnes - whats yours?" but some of the other stuff on it is definitely some of the players.And they sound so shit its good!.Who the hell is the player who chips in with "you must defend and attack" ?.He sounds a bit like Alan Ball although its not him obviously but a similar sounding voice.Keith Allen is a good impersonator but its not him on all the talking/rap parts on the b side.

Yes, you're right. I must listen to this again cos it's defo the England team of that time.

Mr Discography - did you really think I'd believed it was John Barnes going "My name's John Barnes"?! :confused2:

Keith Allen - comic/actor, but defo not an impressionist.

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these days comic is stretching it a bit as well.

keith allen - serial knob displayer...

the players are on one mix & believe its beardsley doing the "defend & attack bit" - a man who sounds worse than he looks. not saying much unless you know what he looks like!

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis Mr Discography - did you really think I'd believed it was John Barnes going "My name's John Barnes"?! :confused2:

Nah, of course not! Read my posts! I'm still convinced the whole lot is Keith Allen (bar Barney's vocals, of course). As I said, no credit to the squad for that mix, and as we know, the squad were supposed to have had no rhythm, so why put them on a mix of the track anyway?

Trust me, it's the first demo they did, with Mr Allen pretending to be a few, miscellaneous players. Surely otherwise, we'd all have worked out exactly who it was "rapping" each part, wouldn't we. He doesn't need to be an "impressionist" just to put on a few slightly different voices. Check the sleeve credits...

What we need is a source from within the band to actually confirm who it is on this mix, as we're all just speculating anyway. Just sounds like the same tone of voice throughout to me.

Andy

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Originally posted by John Sludden > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© John Barnes double footballer of the year shite? My arse. Best player at Liverpool since Dalglish. Perhaps Gerrard is getting close to surpassing him

Barnes was a great player. Shite coach though.:nod:

Even worse as a TV presenter.:nuts:

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