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I'd love to know the answers to the following...

  1. Who produced Cries and Whispers?
  2. Who produced the original versions of Temptation and Hurt?
  3. What does ICB stand for? Is "Ian Curtis Buried" a joke?
  4. Who or what is "the him"?

Thanks...

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  1. Who produced Cries and Whispers?
  2. Who produced the original versions of Temptation and Hurt?
  3. What does ICB stand for? Is "Ian Curtis Buried" a joke?
  4. Who or what is "the him"?

I'll give it a go:

  1. New Order
  2. New Order
  3. Incredibly Cold Bollocks. Probably.
  4. A song from Movement. Or possibly a pun (The Hymn), or even a nickname for Rob Gretton.

Does this help? The first two are serious answers, but I'll leave it to you to determine how serious the last two are. CTD :cool:

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I'm not sure, but I think Hannett produced Cries and Whispers. I wanted to see if someone was certain...

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Yes...Martin Hannet did indeed produce Cries and Whispers...but as for the rest of your questions, I know not the answers...

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In the *great* feature on NO in Mojo, they talk about Hannett doing a lot of takes on C and W. As for ICB, I've always heard it as being "Ian Curtis is Buried", so that's what I go by. I always figured "The Him" was indeed a pun on "hymn", but I could be wrong. I feel I've only added to your confusion....

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Oh, and I think New Order are credited with producing Temp and Hurt, but somebody else already said that...

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