U2 on Jonathon Ross

Originally posted by Chris Nash FHS - It was only Saturday last that I was telling my girlfriend how great The Associates were - playing her the original 7" singles of Q Quarters, A Matter Of gender and Party Fears Two...Yup, Billy was far greater than Bongo is and could ever hope to be!

Yeah Chris, much of the early Associates stuff was fantastic - just like New Order, very hard to pigeonhole and Billy had a fantastic eccentric edge to him! Real shame he died so young. Got most of the Associates/Billy Mackenzie back catalogue and largely it is hard to fault - Billy (and Alan R) were lyrical and instrumental geniuses.

Originally posted by ShugZV© > Originally posted by Doctor Clayhead> "Zooropa"'s my fave U2 album.....> ....sorry!

Should think so an all;)

Ah yes, but if I'm feeling all epic but also slightly ethereal, I'm quite partial to "The Unforgettable Fire" as well.

U2 are one of those bands that you're really supposed to hate, but I just can't do it It probably helps that all their best ideas were swiped from Joy Divsion anyway...

Originally posted by Doctor Clayhead U2 are one of those bands that you're really supposed to hate, but I just can't do it It probably helps that all their best ideas were swiped from Joy Divsion anyway...

Still are swiping from JD (see the Vertigo rif similarity to Isolation)

dint see u2 on jonny ross but got the new album (Paid 4 it too!)same old stuff ,same voice etc. good album tho! no where near as good as the new order album ! regards

I like U2.

I like New Order.

Is that a bad thing? No, I think not.

Long may both reign.

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The bass line rip off?????????????????

oooooooh Its a bit like it. But not a complete rip off. Its very easy to play and quite a natural bass line.

I get fucking tired of this comparison

Have you noticed? zzzzzzzzzzz

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well tbh vertigo IS isolation as far as the bassline goes,but so bloody what,new order are hardly innocents when it comes to nicking ideas for songs. new order have swiped ideas from maddona to hot chocolate and visa versa and furthermore is it really nicking?,the fact that many people are getting off on a 24 yr old jd groove makes me smile even if they dont know it.:)

I've always felt that U2 overplayed the worthy card too much, with Bono being more a self publicist than a band member.

Somehow he has the air of someone who considers himself to be bigger than the band and it came across imho on JR's show..

I've always admired NO's shunning of the spotlight by comparison, as a teenager they just seemed "cooler" for it.

I know we're not comparing but U2 seemed to follow trends whereas NO at least tried, sometimes failing (often miserably :D ) to set them

Originally posted by mike powell well tbh vertigo IS isolation as far as the bassline goes,but so bloody what,new order are hardly innocents when it comes to nicking ideas for songs.new order have swiped ideas from maddona to hot chocolate and visa versa and furthermore is it really nicking?,the fact that many people are getting off on a 24 yr old jd groove makes me smile even if they dont know it.:)

HOT CHOCOLATE?Tell me more cos i am intrigued NOW. Rocket Mick on a beverage quest.

hiya mick. i only twigged the hot chocolate ripp when hooky himself pointed it out in an interview,where he was being asked about other bands emulating or blatanntly nicking ideas from them(lightning seeds "pure" and love vigilantes comes to mind. to which hooky replied that he didnt really mind all that much as he thought it was quite flattering to have other musicians rate them enough to want to do something similar,at which point he pointed out the the bassline to "thieves like us" is a direct copy almost note for note of hot chocolates "emma". of course a ran out and bought hcs greatest hits and lo and behold he wasnt lying,they are almost identical in note but thieves is quicker in tempo. quest completed

Originally posted by mike powell at which point he pointed out the the bassline to "thieves like us" is a direct copy almost note for note of hot chocolates "emma".of course a ran out and bought hcs greatest hits and lo and behold he wasnt lying,they are almost identical in note but thieves is quicker in tempo.

Ah, so that's another reason as to why "Thieves" has some of that '70s funk feel to it. Good spotting.

Quality...must get a copy for myself. SO YOU WIN AGAIN.....THE LOSER aka Rocket Mick

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Doctor Clayhead> "Zooropa"'s my fave U2 album.....> > ....sorry!

That Oakenfold rehash of "Lemon" is one of my favourite records of all time. Reminds me of a mate's wedding in Goa nigh on 10 years ago, everyone blasting that one out on the beach. Halcyon days.

Only own one U2 record meself - Achtung Baby - and Mr Hibster quite rightly caned me for picking it up on ebay. Reminds me of an ex. 5ft11 Scottish bird. Nuff said.

well I had a point, but we've all picked up dodgy things on ebay...

have the lemon remix cd & its not a bad wee bit of plastic