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Anyone asked about Gillian or a U.S. tour yet?

Oh nevermind.

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I thought the new regulation first post was "Can you send Krafty to scrounging@bastard.com"

Seriously though it's good that there is so much activity here lately, no? Us old gits are just going to have to be tolerant. Great to know they can still get people aroused.

Btw, the absolute winner in the dumbarse Gillian posts is currently on WIM at this very moment. Is she married to Steve? For fucks sake... :rolleyes:

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It is indeed good that there is so much activity on the boards at present. Calls for some hard work from Spotnick though, trying to condense the 587 "what do you think of Krafty" and "can I have a copy of Krafty" threads down to manageable proportions.

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Originally posted by Old Blue Seriously though it's good that there is so much activity here lately, no? Us old gits are just going to have to be tolerant. Great to know they can still get people aroused.

agreed. let's just hope they stay around and aren't eaten by bears, slain by ninjas, or whatever happens to those who 'disappear.'

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Originally posted by oldmonkey It is indeed good that there is so much activity on the boards at present. Calls for some hard work from Spotnick though, trying to condense the 587 "what do you think of Krafty" and "can I have a copy of Krafty" threads down to manageable proportions.

I will delete any thread specifying that somebody wants a copy of Krafty...

I let the Radio 1 thread, but gee, don't push the luck too far.

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I dont see any problem in having a copy of the radio playing. You never recorded radio songs in your old sound system in the 80's, in K7? This is promo time! We are all fans and wanted to hear it. The French can and we not?

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It is great to see all the interest - awesome in fact!! :)

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One thing for EVERYONE to remember, is that ALL of us were newbies at one point. Not everyone knows everything about Joy Division/New Order - just some know more than others.

If anyone asks a very basic question, just point them to the FAQ section, gig section, lyrics, biographies, etc as appropriate... :thumb:

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is it true new order were once a different band called love will tear us apart?

i also got confused once because there are 2 bands named new order. i like the new wave disco band that did bizarre love triangle, but at tower records, i found there's another new order doing depressing punkish stuff. someone's getting sued soon...

btw i really like new order's cover of that kylie tune, can't get you out of my head.

:evil2:

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Chris, perehaps we need to start a thread where we post the link to our first posts?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I think mine had to do with the availability of the original 12" of Confusion on cd.

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It's true. My first two posts were about A) Gillian and B) a U.S. tour. I certainly learned my lesson then.

Good to see a flood of new people around these parts. A lot of us locals (myself included) were attracted here by the promise of Get Ready.

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Originally posted by Server Error in "/" Application I dont see any problem in having a copy of the radio playing. You never recorded radio songs in your old sound system in the 80's, in K7? This is promo time! We are all fans and wanted to hear it. The French can and we not?

I don't see it either Andrei, but I sure don't want to piss the label at this point neither.

This is why I'm redirecting people on BBC's website, after all, it's online, so anybody can record it with little knowledge.

But we're grey market here... if I want to have a bond for everybody on this site with the band, we better keep this low profile.

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Originally posted by Chris Nash One thing for EVERYONE to remember, is that ALL of us were newbies at one point. Not everyone knows everything about Joy Division/New Order - just some know more than others.If anyone asks a very basic question, just point them to the FAQ section, gig section, lyrics, biographies, etc as appropriate... :thumb:

I've never been a newbie here :laugh:

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Actually Nic, you were a 'Newbie' - same as me... Do you remember me contacting Seb before the site was up and running? We're ALL newbies at sometime mate - just that there's a few of us who were newbies a loooongg, loooongg time ago...! :laugh:

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Originally posted by twist Chris, perehaps we need to start a thread where we post the link to our first posts?:laugh::laugh::laugh:I think mine had to do with the availability of the original 12" of Confusion on cd.

Twist - I think the first thing I asked here was something along the lines of... 'Is this site up and running yet?' :laugh:

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Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope It's true. My first two posts were about A) Gillian and B) a U.S. tour.

And it was all downhill from there... :D

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Originally posted by Chris Nash Actually Nic, you were a 'Newbie' - same as me... Do you remember me contacting Seb before the site was up and running? We're ALL newbies at sometime mate - just that there's a few of us who were newbies a loooongg, loooongg time ago...! :laugh:

I remember. :nod:

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Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> It's true. My first two posts were about A) Gillian and B) a U.S. tour.

And it was all downhill from there... :D

You may have forgot the usual "Is Bernard gay ?".

:laugh:

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Think my first post had to do with Jeff's then-employer Target running an ad for Get Ready, with the pic for Low-life in the circular ad....:eek::laugh:

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oh shit Green guy...I had forgotten all about that damn ad!!!

Wish I still had a copy...wonder which cover they will put in the ad this go around?!?!?!

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Can we have a newbie free forum. To qualify you would have to have say 200 posts, or pass a test on your New Order knowledge. Some of us are wanting to start strangling a newbie. :D

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A New Order test would be pretty fun! Oh, and I knew to lurk on here for a bit so I didn't ask the dreaded questions.

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Sorry, but the other New Order (Ron Asheton from the Stooges) were around well before even Joy Division started making records..... like around 1975.

Originally posted by lossless but at tower records, i found there's another new order doing depressing punkish stuff. someone's getting sued soon...:evil2:

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My first post was probably looking for a Brixton ticket in 2001. My last post will probably be looking for a Brixton ticket in 2005!

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ok I've got a real newbie question for you, vets : have NO ever played "What do you want from me ?" live ? do you think there is a chance they will some day ?

(the fact is I am currently listening to it for the 15th time in a row : I didn't remember how powerful and catchy it was, leaving Krafty far behind.... :evil4:)

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Originally posted by Archi ok I've got a real newbie question for you, vets :have NO ever played "What do you want from me ?" live ?do you think there is a chance they will some day ?(the fact is I am currently listening to it for the 15th time in a row : I didn't remember how powerful and catchy it was, leaving Krafty far behind.... :evil4:)

No, never - in fact, none of the side project stuff has been performed by New Order, unless you count Vanishing Point and WIFM, both of which started their lives as Other Two instrumentals I think.

Now be nice and leave Krafty alone!

CTB :bear:

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Originally posted by john van Sorry, but the other New Order (Ron Asheton from the Stooges) were around well before even Joy Division started making records..... like around 1975. > Originally posted by lossless> but at tower records, i found there's another new order doing depressing punkish stuff. someone's getting sued soon...> > :evil2:

ha ha. thanks for the info, but if you read my whole post, i was kidding around. my "new order doing depressing punkish stuff" was referring to new order circa movement.

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Originally posted by HOOKY DON'T FLY COACH! oh shit Green guy...I had forgotten all about that damn ad!!!Wish I still had a copy...wonder which cover they will put in the ad this go around?!?!?!

Still have mine Jeff, I'll post it again when I get a scanner.

BTW, yer package should have arrived by now, mailed it a bit over a week ago.:thumb:

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Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch Can we have a newbie free forum. To qualify you would have to have say 200 posts, or pass a test on your New Order knowledge. Some of us are wanting to start strangling a newbie. :D

bit bloomin elitist.

i was a newbie here three times until all my accounts were joined together

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Originally posted by Facthunt > Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch> Can we have a newbie free forum. To qualify you would have to have say 200 posts, or pass a test on your New Order knowledge. Some of us are wanting to start strangling a newbie. :D

bit bloomin elitist.

i was a newbie here three times until all my accounts were joined together I agree, Whats the problem with newbies? I was a member for 2 years with only 2 posts - still had an opinion though

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There's no problem with newbies, everyone is welcome (apart from Julio). Sometimes it might be more appropriate if people did lurk for a while and get a feel for what is going down, rather than diving straight in with the US Tour question ;)

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Originally posted by oldmonkey There's no problem with newbies, everyone is welcome (apart from Julio). Sometimes it might be more appropriate if people did lurk for a while and get a feel for what is going down, rather than diving straight in with the US Tour question ;)

come on timbo - bury the hatchet! (not in his head)

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Hell will freeze over first. Nobody acts the way that prick did and gets away scot free.

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I sympathise with the older member's frustrations regarding newbie requests and comments. However, as has been said we were ALL newbies at one point or another, some in the 70s, or 80s, or 90s and inevitably some in 2005 for the new stuff.

Having said that, the "US Tour" threads do especially get on my tits (Nic should remove them unless gigs are actually about to happen), but for other topics I can understand how it might be a revelation to a new fan that the essentially the same band that made "Republic" (minus Ian obviously) also made "Unknown Pleasures". When I first got into the band I found that whole JD-NO link (Was a JD fan first) utterly fascinating and source of much of my original interest in the band(s). It took me about 2 months to lay my hands on all the relatively small amount of Joy Division CDs and a bit of vinyl, little did I realise the wealth of New Order and side-project stuff I had yet to get my teeth into and simply hear for the first time :D

Also, please don't discriminate against users with a limited Post Count, I'm only at about 101 or something and it doesn't detract from my experience being a fan for over a decade and having contributed to the NO online community. Not dissing the "larger count" members I just can't imagine having 5000+ posts unless I were the webmasters or something ;)

Cheers, "death to newbies" :violent: Hahah!

Ally.

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Not really wishing to give Julio any air time, but I totally agree. Being a gobshite without the faintest clue of when to shut up is one thing. Not knowing very much about New Order is fine. However, the hate mail is harder to forgive and as for the stunt he pulled with "Community", well that deserved a lifetime ban on it's own. He surely wouldn't have the nerve to show his face again...

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Originally posted by Ally3000 I sympathise with the older member's frustrations regarding newbie requests and comments. However, as has been said we were ALL newbies at one point or another, some in the 70s, or 80s, or 90s and inevitably some in 2005 for the new stuff.Having said that, the "US Tour" threads do especially get on my tits (Nic should remove them unless gigs are actually about to happen), but for other topics I can understand how it might be a revelation to a new fan that the essentially the same band that made "Republic" (minus Ian obviously) also made "Unknown Pleasures". When I first got into the band I found that whole JD-NO link (Was a JD fan first) utterly fascinating and source of much of my original interest in the band(s). It took me about 2 months to lay my hands on all the relatively small amount of Joy Division CDs and a bit of vinyl, little did I realise the wealth of New Order and side-project stuff I had yet to get my teeth into and simply hear for the first time :DAlso, please don't discriminate against users with a limited Post Count, I'm only at about 101 or something and it doesn't detract from my experience being a fan for over a decade and having contributed to the NO online community. Not dissing the "larger count" members I just can't imagine having 5000+ posts unless I were the webmasters or something ;)Cheers, "death to newbies" :violent: Hahah!Ally.

Ally, there is no discrimination against anyone with a low post count, anyone who has been here 5 minutes or anyone who just wants to quote Depeche Mode lyrics (well maybe the latter :)) - far from it. Yes we were all newbies, as we have all been at varying stages on different boards as well no doubt. It doesn't take a lot of grey matter though to have a little look at what is currently happening on the board though, 90% of first-time posts are either a repeat of something six inches further down the board (as most newbies tend to arrive when there is some event on the horizon), or are the now-traditional US tour dates question, which should maybe be added as a sticky at the top of the page. In the vast majority of cases, the question need not even be asked as the answer is already readily available with just a few seconds of reading what is in place. Maybe if the FAQ were linked from the top page of the message board rather than the main navigation, and if it were updated more regularly, then the problem could be halved almost instantly.

At the end of the day we are all here because we love this band (apart from those chancers who pop up masquerading as fans to get some info to embellish their E-bay rip off scams).

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All newbies are welcome, but they should be instructed to read the FAQ before posting anything on the forums. Obviously, the FAQ should be improved to contain some crucial questions like these:

  • Where's Gillian?
  • Is Barney gay?
  • When will New Order tour (insert your country here)?
  • Who are the guys on the "Crystal" video?
  • Who's Phil Cunningham? (NEW)
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NEWBIES rule, yes I too asked the same old question. But c'mon you NO veterans love to answer/make fun of people that ask the age old touring question. We should all be happy people love and admire the NO/Joy Division sound. I'm still a newbie and learning everyday. I love the vinyl.

Newbies make the world go around... hahahaha :beer:

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I'm not a newbie--I mostly read and post occassionally. But I do have to say that even people who have been here for a while sometimes post the most inane things--a high post count doesn't mean anything except maybe you're a little too obsessive and perhaps need serious therapy. It goes both ways, really.

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Originally posted by Old Blue Not really wishing to give Julio any air time, but I totally agree. Being a gobshite without the faintest clue of when to shut up is one thing. Not knowing very much about New Order is fine. However, the hate mail is harder to forgive and as for the stunt he pulled with "Community", well that deserved a lifetime ban on it's own. He surely wouldn't have the nerve to show his face again...

He did show up again... yesterday! Under the nickname "Waiting For My Parents' Call"... :nonono:

I must say I wouldn't come back, or at least if I did, I would try to look different.. we have moderators pretty good at finding him at the first sight.

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Originally posted by Eric Wang I'm not a newbie--I mostly read and post occassionally. But I do have to say that even people who have been here for a while sometimes post the most inane things--a high post count doesn't mean anything except maybe you're a little too obsessive and perhaps need serious therapy. It goes both ways, really.

I am obsessed. With your name. Did they call you Big Wanger at school? :rofl: Bernard claims to have been called Big Wanger at school.

No, a high post count isn't a sign of obsession or a need for serious therapy, you cheeky cnut. It is a sign of being able to interact with the community we have here, being able to share information, anecdotes, live recordings, and above all actually trying to enrich the New Order lives of those who post here with shared experience etc. Yes, some of those who post here do occasionally post a load of shite, and I am quite proud of some of the shite I have posted. One person's shite is another's inspiration. Love you really though Ecker, I'm just having a laff, as they say on't West Coast.

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Originally posted by Eric Wang But I do have to say that even people who have been here for a while sometimes post the most inane things--a high post count doesn't mean anything except maybe you're a little too obsessive and perhaps need serious therapy.

:lol: :thumb:

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Originally posted by Eric Wang a high post count doesn't mean anything except maybe you're a little too obsessive and perhaps need serious therapy.

I need Therapy Troublegum CD :wink:

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Originally posted by oldmonkey

Ally, there is no discrimination against anyone with a low post count, anyone who has been here 5 minutes or anyone who just wants to quote Depeche Mode lyrics (well maybe the latter :)) - far from it.

Yeah :) I wasn't saying there was, but after I saw Ronald Kirsch's post just thought I'd reassure thread viewers that not all folks with a <200 post count are newbies :eek: Some of us have been here for years but like to lurk and only contribute occasionally (Quality over quantity! :D Hehe) I also agree it doesn't take much for newbies to actually check out the other sections of NOOL out *before* posting a repetitive question. I'll tell you the type of newbie fan I really hate: the goth teenagers that have a morbid fascination with Ian's death :nonono: they piss me off.

Ally.

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a virtual in-crowd?

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Originally posted by oldmonkey Love you really though Ecker, I'm just having a laff, as they say on't West Coast.

No, we don't quite need to say that on the West Coast given our usual sunny dispositions, you miserable twat. You do say that though, don'tcha? ;)

Just kidding you know, O.M.

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My first post was probably in Behind Closed Doors and had nothing to do with New Order.

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Originally posted by Tristan My first post was probably in Behind Closed Doors and had nothing to do with New Order.

Do you ever post about New Order?

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Well, since it's a newbie thread, thought it might be a good place to post your first post...

Been lurking for a while now and already this board has been a revelation. Great seeing so many like-minded people, especially as there aren't that many around where I come from.

It took me 22 years to discover New Order (thanks to the bleak musical climate of Finland) but it was worth the wait and we've lived together happily ever after. High point of my obsession so far has been the Rob Gretton memorial last May - I was there and probably chatted with quite a few people from this board as well, though was a bit too pissed to remember much about the discussions. I'm definitely hitting UK again for the gigs this year.

Sorry, no dumb questions right now, but you can attempt to make fun of me anyhow, c'mon give it a go!

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Well there are newbies and newbies. I myself am still quite new well not even 2 years, but that is only as a member of NOOL. I have been a long time fan though.

So, there are newbies, who are fans and know about their history.

And there are newbies who have only just heard the new single, just wait until it is officially released, and will say it is quite nice, but the Cure is better, and why doesn' it sound like Blue Monday?

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Originally posted by CTB Now be nice and leave Krafty alone!:bear:

Thank you man for your kind and swift answer. Good to have a place where you can ask those existential questions about the best band of the last 20 years ;-)

So I'll leave Krafty alone : won't even buy a copy of it :evil4:

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Hi everyone :hi:

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Originally posted by Waiting for my parents call!!! Hi everyone :hi:

Julio, Julio... at least PLEASE try to be original so you can't be detected at your first post here... :nonono:

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Man was I wrong about thinking this was the nice thread for all "newbies" to post into :o

So anyone got a 12" of blue monday :bm83: in their garage?

Well get outside and bring it in you loon....that thing needs warmth and love and an ocasional spin

Why would New Order ever bother with a US tour :confused2:

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newbies will be the downfall of this site, (points to bandwidth) its all over:evil4:

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what qualifies as a newbie? what defines a lurker?

thought I'd use this thread to mark up my own personal milestone. it's a year today that I became a member - having lurked for about a year previously. this site has been something of a crutch, a daily recourse and left to my own devices it would be an hourly guilty pleasure. even if at times it ran the risk of being boring I was never being bored - it was always worth seeing through the fallow times as there'd be a tickle of info, a tidbit of gossip, the static of a row or the whiff of a social around the corner.

I've never looked at certain people I know's post count and thought "why can't I be you" - but I've been aware that as a casual lurker I've taken more from this site than I could ever give back. perhaps whatever I do it's never enough - I'm still a newbie and always will be...

not sure if this will get the balance right between logons and input but now my post count has reached double figures I feel a new chapter opening up! although these things take time, hopefully I'll hit 3 figures before my 2nd anniversary....I know it's gonna happen someday it's just a question of time

hopefully the bandwidth will take it...

see you

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A newbie is somebody who just discovered this site and registered.

A lurker is somebody who check the sites but never contributes...

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So was New Order anything to do with Joy Division then? :evil4::ignore:

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I know a lot about the band but I am obviously a newbie to this site (even though I've come in here for about two years). Not a newbie on the JD Central Board. 330 some odd posts there. Ohh and I am perhaps the most hated individual on that site. :cry:

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Originally posted by David Bourgault I know a lot about the band but I am obviously a newbie to this site (even though I've come in here for about two years). Not a newbie on the JD Central Board. 330 some odd posts there. Ohh and I am perhaps the most hated individual on that site. :cry:

I wonder why. Take your phony Plan K footage and shove it up yer arse, you lying, pubescent twat.

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Originally posted by David Bourgault I know a lot about the band but I am obviously a newbie to this site (even though I've come in here for about two years). Not a newbie on the JD Central Board. 330 some odd posts there. Ohh and I am perhaps the most hated individual on that site. :cry:

You are mere seconds away from being the most hated individual on this site as well. Don't do on here what you have been doing on there, simple as that.

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There's only JSB and Huntsman missing now isn't there?:uhoh:

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we're good to our newbies .... look how Spike's spelling has improved !

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It's interesting to note that the two most hated individuals of the Joy Division/New Order community already posted in this thread.

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Originally posted by barneyg So anyone got a 12" of blue monday :bm83: in their garage?Well get outside and bring it in you loon....that thing needs warmth and love and an ocasional spin

I dont even have a garage:skeptic:

My copy is in the SHED:thumb:

But its not comming into the house - the turntable is in the shed too. Now I just need to move the bed out there . . .

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Originally posted by Geri we're good to our newbies .... look how Spike's spelling has improved !

:laugh::laugh:

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Ahh DaveC, what a displeasure to meet you on the site.

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Originally posted by David Bourgault Ahh DaveC, what a displeasure to meet you on the site.

I live here, Intermission, so don't burn the locals.

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