New Order for Coachella

I am qute certain that the Order will not just be appearing at one festival, if they are coming to the States. So keep an eye out for other/cheaper/closer gigs.

Originally posted by AmnesiacSD > Hey Amnesiac, which part of SD are you in?Mission Valley. Why?

No reason. I'm in UTC and was just wondering.

Went to Coachella in 2002 and saw some great bands: Chemical Bros, Bjork, Beta Band, Groove Armada...Coachella is a great festival, actually the best I've been to. Very well organized, good facilities, lots of places selling food & water (which is important in the desert), and not too crowded so it was easy to get close to the stage. It's definitely hot during the day, but once the sun goes down, it cools off and is great. It's a beautiful setting.

Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch I am qute certain that the Order will not just be appearing at one festival, if they are coming to the States.

I'm not.

nice to see the Gang of Four on the list as well. not that I'll be going of course...

Originally posted by Johnny Giles > Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL> Well Mr J ??> > About a 12 hour flight plus drive for potentially 50 mins of music !!> > Surely not

I'm saying no this time around, definitely. Although would perhaps reconsider if more California dates were added. Though I don't think they will be.

When you say 'definitely', what do you actually mean ? ;)

I quite fancy this, 50 minutes or not. There'll be other bands worth seeing plus a couple of days in LA or San Diego. Gonna hold off booking flights until I know if they are gonna play any other gigs there or not.

Same here!

Thirded. Dependent on other US gigs though.

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by oldmonkey Thirded. Dependent on other US gigs though.

they would have to tour based on their past material... which they didn't really do since 1993... (I mean they own tour)...

It doesn't work like that though, it never has. They don't tour a new album, they play some of the newer songs in a set that is largely made up of older songs. They really don't work this US-style way of touring an album, like U2 or suchlike are doing.

I dunno, I could be wrong, but I really can't see them doing their own US Tour ever again. Sure I can see them joining Festival bills, but not a US Tour where they are the main draw (and there is absolutely no incentive to support anyone on a US Tour).

^^^^ Agree.

but I'm hoping for a secret show somewhere in the city of L.A. - hoping. maybe an El Rey Theater gig or something like that.

Originally posted by Eric Wang ^^^^ Agree.but I'm hoping for a secret show somewhere in the city of L.A. - hoping. maybe an El Rey Theater gig or something like that.

They've never really done a lot in LA - two Hollywood gigs in 86, Pasadena 81, Inglewood 87, Universal Amphitheater 89, and several down the road at Irvine Meadows. A pity, if they were doing a couple this time we'd be there like a shot.

They did Santa Monica once, 1985, but unfortunately we only have the first 45 minutes of the performance on tape.

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL> Well Mr J ??> > About a 12 hour flight plus drive for potentially 50 mins of music !!> > Surely not

I'm saying no this time around, definitely. Although would perhaps reconsider if more California dates were added. Though I don't think they will be.

Say it ain't so!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by oldmonkey > Originally posted by Spotnick> > > > Originally posted by oldmonkey> Thirded. Dependent on other US gigs though.

they would have to tour based on their past material... which they didn't really do since 1993... (I mean they own tour)...

It doesn't work like that though, it never has. They don't tour a new album, they play some of the newer songs in a set that is largely made up of older songs. They really don't work this US-style way of touring an album, like U2 or suchlike are doing.

I dunno, I could be wrong, but I really can't see them doing their own US Tour ever again. Sure I can see them joining Festival bills, but not a US Tour where they are the main draw (and there is absolutely no incentive to support anyone on a US Tour).

I'm not up to all the costs of touring, but why couldn't they tour with one or two bands such as the Chemical Brothers. They would attract a larger crowd and generate more $$$. They did tour with Echo and Gene Loves Jezebel in 87, not sure how succesful that tour was. Or are they just tired of long tours? They did tour quite extensively for "Get Ready" though.

I wouldn't have called the Get Ready dates extensive touring, a smattering here and a couple there really. When in Australia though, they had to justify the trip!

Originally posted by Eric Wang ^^^^ Agree.but I'm hoping for a secret show somewhere in the city of L.A. - hoping. maybe an El Rey Theater gig or something like that.

the el rey would be perfect, especially with me front row.

What perplexes me is, why Coachella? All of their equiptment is going to fail in that heat. Watch for several exploding sequencers and maybe the autocue will backfire.

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by oldmonkey Thirded. Dependent on other US gigs though.

Coachella would be ONE WEEK only after the album will be released in the USA, unless Krafty is released before (something we don't have yet) there and jump in the chart, they would have to tour based on their past material... which they didn't really do since 1993... (I mean they own tour)...

I have doubts. But of course, I'd love it...

The Cure headlined day 2 last year about a month before their new album was out. They played tons of material from the new one that no one in the crowd knew, but it still rocked.

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by oldmonkey I wouldn't have called the Get Ready dates extensive touring, a smattering here and a couple there really. When in Australia though, they had to justify the trip!

Then why would they do only 1 show in North America? that wouldn't justify the trip, is it? ;)

Good coin. That justifies any trip.