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Right, we know that there are going to be live dates accompanying the album and singles. They may be thinking of resurrecting an old New Order song to play at these gigs, we don't know. In any case, they will be rehearsing soon.

This is a perfect opportunity to sow the seeds of an idea for them to resurrect an oldie (no not you Rocket ;)) - gives them plenty of time to sort any programming that may need doing, and plenty of time to feed the autocue machine.

We know that content from here finds its way to the band via a variety of routes - what harm can it do to start a campaign for an old song?

Im hopeing For Procession, i hope they do it.....

I chose 586. I think it would sound pretty cool if they did a version like in the Peel Sessions with that wicked bass. However, I do like the instrumentals near the end of the PCL version. I dunno, I would be interested to hear what it would sound like today if they played it in the encore or something. It has great lyrics still.

Round & Round :)

They have said that they want to play more crowd jump up stuff, so this is perfect!

I have to say though that despite starting this poll, I would prefer it if they did a complete set of new songs, and came back out for Ceremony and Temptation. No JD stuff, just pure new New Order.

EGG I think Phil could handle the electronics. Great jammin bastard of a song. Since there is a great possibility that I will get to see them I would hope for TPK but I think that song is beyond their grasp without Gillian and 300 hours of programming.

Originally posted by twist EGG I think Phil could handle the electronics. Great jammin bastard of a song. Since there is a great possibility that I will get to see them I would hope for TPK but I think that song is beyond their grasp without Gillian and 300 hours of programming.

Anyone could play those three chords! All Gillian did apart from that was trigger the sequences, and Spike could do that!

Yep, AOC for me as well. No programming needed there, right? But if "Face Up" had been in the list....

100% AOC

Originally posted by Doctor Clayhead Yep, AOC for me as well. No programming needed there, right? But if "Face Up" had been in the list....

"other(specify)", that should've done the trick for Face Up:D

This Time of Night, but the "advanced" electronics involved might be too tiresome to program and sequence for the gang o' four. (Five if you count Roger Lyons)

If they could pull off one of those songs on the list, without watering it down (TBTHOG, TF, BLT, Digital, etc.), then it should be done. PLEASE NewOrder, dump JD songs, Regret, all Get Ready material except for Crystal and Blue Monday.

ROUND and ROUND for me!

Other, The Village (but i'd settle for AOC or TPK)

Age of Consent!!

Everything's Gone Green and Perfect Kiss are my second and third choices.

Originally posted by The Haçienda must be (re)Built Other, The Village (but i'd settle for AOC or TPK)

The Village would be my pick as well. I'd settle for Everything's Gone Green. Whoever else said EGG hasn't voted for it.

Originally posted by Ally3000 I picked "Vanishing Point" because I think it would be interesting to hear a "Perfecto-like" update of it a'la True Faith and Touched. Classic song, long overdue a live dust off. Aside from that, I wouldn't mind hearing some obscure numbers from Low-life, such as "Face Up" and "Sooner Than You Think" :D Also, "Weirdo" from Brotherhood might be good to insert in the middle of the set, a quick 2 minute blast of classic energetic NO! But unlikely to happen :(I think they should definitely not play any more Joy Division songs, unfortunately despite their best intentions they sounded like a tribute band when they did Atmosphere, Heart & Soul etc. it's best left in the past and they should return to the "making it on their own afterburners" attitude as Barney put it in an interview. JD has not existed since May 1980, pointless to pretend otherwise really and part of the whole JD appeal was Hannet's bleak production that cannot exist in the live arena. Also, I'd like to see Blue Monday, Ceremony, and every Get Ready song bar Crystal removed from this tour's setlist. Time for a change and that lot has been run into the ground performance-wise over the past few years."Right this is Close Range..." *Everyone flocks to the bar*Oh, and a cover of "What do you want from me?" please Santa Ally.

PERFECTO UPDATES!! EEK! AYE CARUMBA!

The originals are already about a million times better.

I wouldn't be averse to them doing Crystal more in the style of the Lee Combes mix.

I would love to here disorder...

TPK

Wishful thinking, but a fantastic live track.

Thieves Like Us!

Hurt! Ultraviolence!

Vanishing Point

I picked TPK, though there's not a chance they'll do it.

Another song like EGG or Procession would be fantastic. I'd like to hear Dreams Never End also....no synths on that one.

I really do hope that the band play Perfect Kiss, i would just love it if they played it

I voted for 1963. One of my alltime favourites. Say, I'd easily drop TBTHOG alone for the refrain.

Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© > Originally posted by Ally3000 I picked "Vanishing Point" because I think it would be interesting to hear a "Perfecto-like" update of it a'la True Faith and Touched. Classic song, long overdue a live dust off. Aside from that, I wouldn't mind hearing some obscure numbers from Low-life, such as "Face Up" and "Sooner Than You Think" :D Also, "Weirdo" from Brotherhood might be good to insert in the middle of the set, a quick 2 minute blast of classic energetic NO! But unlikely to happen :(I think they should definitely not play any more Joy Division songs, unfortunately despite their best intentions they sounded like a tribute band when they did Atmosphere, Heart & Soul etc. it's best left in the past and they should return to the "making it on their own afterburners" attitude as Barney put it in an interview. JD has not existed since May 1980, pointless to pretend otherwise really and part of the whole JD appeal was Hannet's bleak production that cannot exist in the live arena. Also, I'd like to see Blue Monday, Ceremony, and every Get Ready song bar Crystal removed from this tour's setlist. Time for a change and that lot has been run into the ground performance-wise over the past few years."Right this is Close Range..." *Everyone flocks to the bar*Oh, and a cover of "What do you want from me?" please Santa Ally.

PERFECTO UPDATES!! EEK! AYE CARUMBA!

The originals are already about a million times better.

I wouldn't be averse to them doing Crystal more in the style of the Lee Combes mix.

The Perfecto/Paul Oakenfold sound is pretty dated in itself. And personally, I dislike what Oakenfold represents. There's nothing innovative about that sound and Perfecto's usual drivel of mediocre trance (have you heard "Bullet in a Gun"? - ughhhh...

It would be cool to hear Age of Consent live, so that's what I went for but there's plenty on that list that i'd be well pleased to hear especially Procession and Perfect Kiss :)

Sadly, Procession is the least likely of all of them - Bernard denies all knowledge of ever having written the song nowadays (maybe not all that surprising, as Steve wrote it!), and they binned it in 1985!

Nah ... I'd let them play whatever they like as long as I get my chance to see them live for the very first time in my life!

Thieves Like Us,and the original sound of Temptation,hardly any guitars and loads of synths (like Taras Shevchenko).

Here To Stay

egg. new sythns, new sounds. same stomping hypnotic track hopefully

I'd love to hear them dig out Sunrise. Despite me specifically asking a pissed steve morris for it, that and sooner than you think, i seriously doubt they'd do it. Of course, of they do, it will clearly be me that swung it

I agree with Jarvo though, TPK has to return at some point. Surely?

Originally posted by oldmonkey Sadly, Procession is the least likely of all of them - Bernard denies all knowledge of ever having written the song nowadays (maybe not all that surprising, as Steve wrote it!), and they binned it in 1985!

That is quite unfortunate. Procession is one of my favourite NO songs, and I would have loved to see them play it live (although the possibility of ad-libbed "whooping" makes that reality a bit more bearable).

But as NOBabe said, I'm not going to be fussy as long as I finally get to see them play.

:)

I like Love Vigilante a lot. It's not in the list.

That's because they play it often or no one wants to hear it?

The Perfect Kiss, with the bass solo at the beginning, but that will never happen. TBTHOG would also be good, and so would Sub-Culture and Round and Round. But, honestly, if they just come to the east coast and play Blue Monday and True Faith, I'll be content.

Another vote for EGG, listened to the way that it blended into Temptation rather nicely @ Nottingham 84 last night.

AOC would be my second choice.

Dream Attack or Let's Go (instrumental) for me...although anything from the list will be perfectly acceptible. CTB

It'd be great if 2 or 3 of these made it into the live gigs;Thieves, 586, AOC,EGG or VP.

though it's not my favorite song, i really felt like the 98 and 2001-02 shows were missing that certain something that was THE PERFECT KISS. But I voted "other" in the hopes that Hooky's bass would announce their presence with authority while also giving a nod to the diehards with a LONESOME TONIGHT opener.

I was going to vote for Vanishing Point, but on reflection I've gone for Everything's Gone Green. All the times I've seen them they've never played the bugger. Then the next night on the tour when I wasn't there they played it!

Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© > Originally posted by The Haçienda must be (re)Built Other, The Village (but i'd settle for AOC or TPK)

The Village would be my pick as well. I'd settle for Everything's Gone Green. Whoever else said EGG hasn't voted for it.

Me too. One of my NO top ten and vastly under-rated.

Originally posted by Pogue Mahone egg. new sythns, new sounds. same stomping hypnotic track hopefully

It could be brilliant, couldn't it? EGG brought into the 21st century. Amazing prospect.

I want TPK brought back into the set. Was it Hooky who said he couldn't imagine playing TPK in his late forties ?! I'd rather be remembered for a timeless masterpiece like TPK than some throwaway poptune like Krafty.

"1963" gets my vote! Maybe they could do a live-version in the arthurBaker1995-rmx kinda style with additional guitars and more Hooky. ... and any track off Technique is certainly welcome!

... and another top-tune, not mentioned before and not too hard to rehearse, would be (another fave of mine): LONESOME TONIGHT!

Jeez, this is difficult - with a back cat. like New Order's where do you start?

Everything's Gone Green for sure

but also: Hurt, Lonsome Tonight, AOC This time of Night Sunrise 586 / The Village / any PC&L tracks Round & Round Confusion

Am I asking too much?

Chosen Time or Doubts Even Here or Dreams Never End please. Thanks!

I went for Thieves Like Us, since I've never seen NO, and it's just one of my favourite NO songs.

On a more general note, I've never really understood bands (esp those with sizeable back catalogues) just sticking to the same songs every night (just in a different order), with maybe one change. If I were in a band, I can't imagine there being a better rush than suddenly kicking out an impromptu (encore?) version of a lost gem (e.g. Weirdo, AOC, everyone has their own idea!) or even a cover (see Sister Ray, Anarchy In The UK, Ostrich). I know it's a bit tougher for NO, with the electronic-based songs, but they have enough band-based ones to do this surely? One of my favourite bands is Spiritualized, and they are the worst example - on a tour, exactly the same setlist every night without fail.

This has been a long-running one Karl, and we are no nearer the real reasons to this day. Until 1989 they did a different set every night, everything was interchangeable. There were some shocking performances of songs not rehearsed for years!

It seems they were desperately unhappy with how hit and miss the live show was, so for the 1989 US Tour they decided to rehearse 20 songs, mixing them up as two distinct sets that were rotated every night. On occasion, some other songs found their way into the set, but these were few and far between. The key for Hooky was the lack of professionalism they believed they were showing.

The next set of gigs in 1993 featured the same set every night bar two, one that featured a shoddy take on Special, and one that was shorter than the rest.

In 2001/2002 they again stuck to the same set every night pattern by and large, agreeing a set for a series of dates and not really varying it. The Australian dates offered a choice between Love Vigilantes and Ceremony, that was about all.

Since Bernard adopted an autocue to provide the lyrics, and Phil joined the band, there have been fewer set changes than before. They also upgraded their sequencer technology several times between 1989 and 2002, which meant that a lot of the songs they used to play got left behind in terms of sequencing. They hired Roger Lyons of Lionrock to sequence some of the newer songs, and he ran out of time sequencing older material for the live set.

One thing is for certain, we will never see the old days again where the set was changed every night. Let's be grateful we still have the chance to get to see them at all though!

Understandable I guess, but sort of takes away part of that ramshackle brilliance that everyone associates with NO. This was alluded to on that BB6 documentary, either Barney or Hooky said something like "I understand how some fans prefer the earlier days of extreme brilliance/crapness, but they weren't the ones crying backstage after a gig". You're right though, this doesn't detract too much from my excitement at (hopefully) getting to see them for the 1st time.

Very tough to call but:

Dream Attack TPK <<< got my vote from options listed Subculture EGG Vanishing Point

Well whatever burried treasure song(s) they unearth for the next tour (erm, "appearances"), I'll either need to be there in person to see it (preferred), or have it be on their next DVD :D