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Received a mail from Warner Sweden (!)..

The video was said to be "great" by the person at the label, it's directed by Johan Rench, as swede.

So people in Sweden, watch ZTV and MTV Nordic... apparently Krafty gets airplay over there, TLV can confirm maybe!

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"it's, by far, the best thing they've ever done" ... :sleep:

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Shush, you. Negative Norman.

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Video will be available on http://www.musicbrigade.com/ next monday...

Unless there is another Music Brigade? :confused2:

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In other Madonna news, MTV will premiere the video for her song "Nothing Really Matters" this Saturday, at 1pm. The video is directed by Johan Rench, a protege of "Ray of Light" director Jonas Akerlund.

Only item found on Google... so he did Madonna's Nothing Really Matters.

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Typo from Warner.. it's Johan Renck

He did Crystal :D

A Camp (Song for the Leftovers All Saints (Black Coffee) Beyonce (Me Myself And I) Chris Cornell (Can't change me) Finley Quaye (Spiritualized) Kylie Minogue (Love at first Sight)
Madonna (Nothing really matters) Maxwell (Let's not play the Game) Maxwell (Get to know ya) New Order (Crystal)
Stakka Bo (Here we go) Suede (She's in Fashion) The Libertines (What Became Of The Likely Lads) The Streets (Dry Your Eyes)

That's his videography... if my memory doesn't fails, he also goes by a nickname... Stakka

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The Suede video is pretty lame. However, the video for Chris Cornell's "Can't Change Me" is supurb.

I can't say I was a fan of the "Crystal" video(s).

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Originally posted by Spotnick Typo from Warner.. it's Johan Renck He did Crystal :D A Camp (Song for the Leftovers All Saints (Black Coffee) Beyonce (Me Myself And I) Chris Cornell (Can't change me) Finley Quaye (Spiritualized) Kylie Minogue (Love at first Sight) Madonna (Nothing really matters) Maxwell (Let's not play the Game) Maxwell (Get to know ya) New Order (Crystal) Stakka Bo (Here we go) Suede (She's in Fashion) The Libertines (What Became Of The Likely Lads) The Streets (Dry Your Eyes) That's his videography... if my memory doesn't fails, he also goes by a nickname... Stakka

Wasn't he even a member of Stakka Bo? I seem to remember they were some kinda one-hit-wonder with that certain track... :skeptic:

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'available next monday'... well, not for mac-users that is... :cry:

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Yes he was a member of the onehitwonder Stakka Bo:sleep:

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Just for the record, don't hold your breath, I should be able to put the video online here by tomorrow.

So don't go paying a membership just for that! ;)

I'll tell you if it's not working, but it should work.

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Originally posted by Bill Wolters 'available next monday'... well, not for mac-users that is...:cry:

Should be nothing stopping Macheads from using it

Firstly, bite the bullet. Install Windows Media Player for the Macintosh (http://www.microsoft.com/mac). Try that, firstly in Safari than in MacIE.

Also, try http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/ . It may have a browser plugin. Which should work in every OSX browser, in theory. That said, Adobe's browser plugin is locked to Safari even though all the other browsers use the one standard.

MPlayers browser plugin on Linux works better than WMP in Firefox on Windows XP, for instance

If its trying to lock you out due to browser or OS, use Opera or another browser like it that can fake the browser user agent. This can pretend that you're using IE6SP2 on Windows XP on Intel, if you want it to.

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Originally posted by Spotnick Just for the record, don't hold your breath, I should be able to put the video online here by tomorrow.So don't go paying a membership just for that! ;)I'll tell you if it's not working, but it should work.

*YES PLEASE! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!:clap:

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hmmm, double post and i only clicked once.... (and i can´t delete it, that´s why i´m explaining this ;) )

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Can't wait to see it. What time do you think they will put it on?:rofl: Those crazy Sweeds.

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Originally posted by Henrik Mikko Yes he was a member of the onehitwonder Stakka Bo:sleep:

Just to clear some things up. Stakka Bo was not a group. The guy is called Stakka Bo. One-hit-wonder? Perhaps in the world, but not in Sweden. "Here we go Again" and "Down the Drain" are some of his hits. He also made a track with the Swedish king of cheesy euro-dance, E-Type. The track was called Obey (and it has been played on my show @ RetroForwardRadio.com). He was also part of the ensemble (Nåid, Fleshquartet, Titiyo, etc.) that that made the track We Vie - a great track.

Johan Renck is now a famous music-video director and a profile in the music industry.

I'll watch Z-TV tonight, but I don't think they play any music in the evening. Not until 02:55am when they play "Fresh Tracks of the Week", but by then I'm sleeping...

/TLV

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Still not online, I guess it'll be there soon...

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Well, my Swedish is not so good... how to vote? and why can't I quote with the new forum system?

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can't wait. I'll keep checking back.:D... how exciting.

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oi! where is the bloody thing?

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Don't ask me, it looks like they have decided to put a Valentine day special instead...

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Spotnick wrote:

Don't ask me, it looks like they have decided to put a Valentine day special instead...

I told you this Valenshite's day needs to be stopped! They're pre-empting our Order for a lot of feel-good nonesuch. Oh, wait...I guess Krafty wouldn't be totally inappropriate then. :shrug:

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Fookin Swedes, time to throw away my Nokia and burn Ikea.

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:cry: Not there!

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Where is it? They do not even have anything listed as to when it will be released...what gives?

Bad info.....

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Quite a krafty trick they pulled on us there.

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Well, they're socialists up there in Sweden. The video probably got shoved in a box full of red tape. The album will be out by the time we see the damn thing, and even then, it'll still be a disappointment.

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Anyone? Wouldn't someone get the video and post for us here, please?

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yeah, someone with money please pay for the goddamn thing and share it with us poor bastards! :lol:

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it's on the frontpage now and you can watch it for free, which i'm doing at this very moment!

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well... finally they did a video about shagging!  ... but no band-members involved.

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First sex scene in a New Order video?

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must say even 60mph video was better than this. Crystal was thounsands much better than this.

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I like it. Best one for a while. Haven't really liked any since Republic. Reminds me a bit of the Round & Round one.

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Nice story about young couple who work in a laundry and clock watch all day who escape from it all at the end of the day by snogging and shagging, then jumping around in a celebration of freedom.

Tastefully done, but not something I would watch repeatedly!

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Ness wrote: but not something I would watch repeatedly!

that's it!

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From their Q&A: Q. Can I download music videos from Musicbrigade?

A. No.

We're a legal streaming video site, which means you must be connected to the internet to be able to watch our music video archive.

This also means that for every video we show artists get their royalities, which is fair for everyone!

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Hey, a 27 MB file is coming right now to my computer!!!

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THE VIDEO IS ONLINE :))

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just finished downloading it

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They don't seem to spend thst much time shagging, though, do they? :laugh:

Maybe the bloke was too excited? :rofl:

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hell, just 3:47... it's not complete but 448x336 940kbps video and WMA 160 kbps sound... ill try to get the complete file.

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I thought it was quite sweet. Great camera work. Although that geezer looks like he could do with a hot meal inside him.

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The camera work is good really. But I have to confess this is a so-so video to a so-so track. Not the right choice for the first single. Will New Order never appear in their videos anymore?

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Thanks for that link!

But, err.... is that a video for a new safer-sex-campaign?

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This is the link for the full quality file. The problem is that i always get an incomplete file... if anyone did have success in the download please tell me how / share

mms://213.132.96.108/Archive/01MG013000_1000.wmv

robertoaf*gmail.com

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RøbertãoTøldYøuSø wrote: The camera work is good really. But I have to confess this is a so-so video to a so-so track. Not the right choice for the first single. Will New Order never appear in their vides anymore?

Quite frankly, I dont understand why people care about seeing Neworder in their videos. And I quite like this video.

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me very happy.....

krafty video.... and i have been krafty and got myself the album....

Very very very good no can wait now for the live shows lets get one in Holland and then i will be an extactic bunny too..... :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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???

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The concept with the non-stop camera movements reminds me a LOT of Pulp's "Do You Remember the First Time?"

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i hear there's a director's cut which features stephen and gillian in place of the two teen actors - some hot middle-age snogging action.

so will this video get banned on mtv usa? :ignore: i don't think our dear ol' prez bush is going to likey-likey all that onscreen teenage sex. plus, oh lord, is that a condom wrapper? :)

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Originally posted by francois-marc loze The concept with the non-stop camera movements reminds me a LOT of Pulp's "Do You Remember the First Time?"

yes i thought the same too. another one that uses the device is the sundays and their summertime video. you can watch summertime here, but you'll need a yahoo reg.

http://music.yahoo.com/ar-265645---The-Sundays

i just remembered that for both the pulp and the sundays videos, the sweeping / looping camera motion is restricted to the vertical - where the whole world turns upside down. the krafty video mixes in other ranges of camera motion. so, still similar idea, but expanded.

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I'm converting it to Real Video Alejo, so you'll see it ;)

Also a lower quality WMV file, because I'm not sure everybody would like a 27 megs file ;)

Should be online in no time.

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i'm hosting the hi-res 27mb version on my site for a short time:

http://lossless.blogs.com/main/2005/02/new_order_kraft.html

spotnick - if this sort of file sharing is frowned upon (trouble from record company, etc.), please delete this post. i didn't post a direct link to the clip, but maybe that doesn't fix everything. thanks.

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lossless wrote:

Originally posted by francois-marc loze The concept with the non-stop camera movements reminds me a LOT of Pulp's "Do You Remember the First Time?"

yes i thought the same too. another one that uses the device is the sundays and their summertime video. you can watch summertime here, but you'll need a yahoo reg.

http://music.yahoo.com/ar-265645---The-Sundays

i just remembered that for both the pulp and the sundays videos, the sweeping / looping camera motion is restricted to the vertical - where the whole world turns upside down. the krafty video mixes in other ranges of camera motion. so, still similar idea, but expanded.

Didn't The Pixies do one even earlier? Set in a old empty house, I think.

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thank you lossless, i was almost giving up for getting the complete video...

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Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© > > lossless wrote:> > > > Originally posted by francois-marc loze> > The concept with the non-stop camera movements reminds me a LOT of Pulp's "Do You Remember the First Time?">

yes i thought the same too. another one that uses the device is the sundays and their summertime video. you can watch summertime here, but you'll need a yahoo reg.

http://music.yahoo.com/ar-265645---The-Sundays

i just remembered that for both the pulp and the sundays videos, the sweeping / looping camera motion is restricted to the vertical - where the whole world turns upside down. the krafty video mixes in other ranges of camera motion. so, still similar idea, but expanded.

Didn't The Pixies do one even earlier? Set in a old empty house, I think. pixies? i don't recall that one. empty house... monkey gone to heaven maybe? see pixies videos.

i didn't re-watch all of the ones from the above link, but i scanned them, and i don't think there's one with krafty-style camera movement.

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Yeah, big up to Lossless.

I was screaming along at about 3fps on the stream site.

Feedback? Well it's an expertly shot vid with a positive vibe about the indomitable human spirit, ya-de-ya. Cool to watch a couple of times and the narrative follows the lyrics fairly predictably. Urban Scandinavian(?) love story. Nothing groundbreaking.

I do wonder now what route they'll take for the J-E-T video. If they're really gonna milk it they need to get Ana Matronic in a hotel room in Miami or somewhere, split-screen duetting with Barney and the lads (soft focus, baggy clothers and sunnies please) in an airplane or UK air terminal or something. Camp it up. I can see it now. But no dancing from the UK end... Hmmm... Or would the site of the lads just scare the kids off?

:\pimp3:

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I like the camera work, but this is a lame video.

A big problem is that the actors are unwatchable. They are hideous, emaciated, and can't kiss to save their lives. Worst kissing I have ever seen! And honestly, kids, eat a Twinkie.

I would have gone with a much brighter video... The colors were all wrong. It is a bloody peppy, upbeat song, and it needed some bright greens and blues. I could think of several better treatments off the top of my head. I wonder how these directors get their jobs!

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Originally posted by lossless i'm hosting the hi-res 27mb version on my site for a short time:http://lossless.blogs.com/main/2005/02/new_order_kraft.htmlspotnick - if this sort of file sharing is frowned upon (trouble from record company, etc.), please delete this post. i didn't post a direct link to the clip, but maybe that doesn't fix everything. thanks.

Cheers mate...

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Hank Wiseass© wrote: Reminds me a bit of the Round & Round one.

Fair enough... and R&R is the

worst.

video.

ever.

:)

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Originally posted by Thataboy I like the camera work, but this is a lame video.A big problem is that the actors are unwatchable. They are hideous, emaciated, and can't kiss to save their lives. Worst kissing I have ever seen! And honestly, kids, eat a Twinkie.I would have gone with a much brighter video... The colors were all wrong. It is a bloody peppy, upbeat song, and it needed some bright greens and blues. I could think of several better treatments off the top of my head. I wonder how these directors get their jobs!

Sounds like you want your MTV.

:\pimp3:

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Erm...may I say taht I thought this video SUCKED!!!

Oh well...good thing I don't intend on watching MTV or VH1 that much!

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Originally posted by Dubya's Little Helper Erm...may I say taht I thought this video SUCKED!!!Oh well...good thing I don't intend on watching MTV or VH1 that much!

Sucked? Absolute garbage. I never thought 60MPH would be a better video than this.

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I just want a video that actually considers the tone of the song. This video is static, ugly (outside of the camera work), and uninteresting.

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Looks like a good video for VH1 :barf:

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Also if they were going to make a song about people fucking, why not choose a better looking couple. Looks like two lame Brits to me:thumbdown:

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I'd recommend downloading the High Quality video provided by lossless, then playing it in the BSplayer video player. You can adjust the color and aspect ratio of the video, so it looks very high quality. It does look a little dingy otherwise.

JK:thumb:

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Is the lack of the band in the video perhaps eased by the fact that the principals were "playing hooky" from work?

Er....that was real...um....hmmmmm.

It did look like a safe sex campaign. Oh, and look what we can do with the camera--pretty neat, huh? (Actually, I liked some of the more disorienting shots.) It wasn't THAT bad until they went up to roof after, you know--like breeding--and started pogoing around like glue-sniffers (or Bez at his finest). To its merits, the girlie in it didn't look that shabby, and the fella looks a bit like me!

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For those interested, a real media version is available for download in the video archive...

(so Audio/Video > Video Archives)

Since not everybody can play windows media files.

To be honest, I don't expect anything from New Order videos since they are not in them. I believe this is yet another video aimed for kids...

If it works, I'll be happy, if it doesn't, it's a waste of time.

I'm seriously missing the Republic days... Regret, Ruined In A Day and World are by far my favorite videos...

Sure there's True Faith, but it doesn't really feature the band, does it? live segments only.

World was a piece of art.

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New Order go commercial:

First Sunkist, now Trojan condoms.

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New Order go commercial:

First Sunkist, now Trojan condoms.

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I presume the location and the kids are meant to be in the former soviet bloc about ten years ago, right?

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It's all been done before, but I quite like it. It fits the song well and has made me think about something other than the travesty of the chorus.

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Of course it promotes safe sex. She keeps her pants on...

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Damn, i'm somewhat disappointed.  At least they made a video I guess.  Those two certainly seem elated that they were able to do the deed there.

Maybe the video would have been better if it starred John Simm and the Nicolette Krebitz.  With John lip-syncing throughout the entire video, the entire video.

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Now give me the link so I could download that real player :scratch:

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As bad as the new record appears, the Krafty video is quite good... not sure if music fans grasp exactly what is being said about them in this video, but to me its a pretty clear statement about how sensual indulgences (music, sex) keep people quietly doing what they are told and that those escapes ultimately limit their lives... as long as your heads are in the clouds, your life stays firmly in the gutter... its such a 180 degree turn from the punk idea of questioning everything and living your life in an examined way... Ian Curis may have worked in a factory, but he was daydreaming about a fantastic life, and fantastic work... not just getting head later that evening (ok he was probably thinking of that too)...

As with Madonnas' Holiday, this video both provides the pleasure of escape with an indictment of that escape at the same time... ah the thrills of pop!

Ajw

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Welcome to the firing line, AJ.

One of the few WFTSC dissenters!

:\pimp3:

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finally i watch it (thanks Nicos!)

i must say i got a little dizzy with the camera movement. but overall a video that don´t say much to me. i´m a little worried that (as with Saville) someone is paying too much for so low results. and this director guy i´m sure is not cheap. anyway, what do i care?

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AJ Wells wrote: As bad as the new record appears, the Krafty video is quite good... not sure if music fans grasp exactly what is being said about them in this video, but to me its a pretty clear statement about how sensual indulgences (music, sex) keep people quietly doing what they are told and that those escapes ultimately limit their lives... as long as your heads are in the clouds, your life

Well then I suppose I didn't get it. If you listen to the lyrics of the song, it sounds more like a an ode to the common man...something well beyond the members of New Order at this point, I should mention. The video seemed to suggest-as well as the lyrics--that as long as you have love, it doesn't matter where you start from, you always have hope for something better.

JK

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'Shock value'. 'So-so song, let's get a bit more coverage with a "controversial(ish)" video'.

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Originally posted by Tristan Also if they were going to make a song about people fucking, why not choose a better looking couple.

Absolutely. The lad looks as though a pan of scouse would kill him.

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Originally posted by PHD > Originally posted by Tristan> Also if they were going to make a song about people fucking, why not choose a better looking couple.

Absolutely. The lad looks as though a pan of scouse would kill him.

Mmmmmmmm, scouse.

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  1. An upbeat song that features two bean poles going at it in the kitchen for too long and going at it in the bedroom for not long enough.

  2. Who the hell gets off work at 3?

and

  1. Shouldn't they be shown washing the sheets at the end of the video?:skeptic:
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The naughtiest New Order video by far.

They should have used a couple of overweight 40 year old New Order fans instead of the two anorexics. (The girl was sort of cute, but she looks as though any sexual activity would kill her....she looks like she needs a sandwich.)

Perhaps they could've gotten Steve & Gillian to get it on for the video.:eek3:

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The jumping up and down at the end just screams of: "WE GOT PAID, LAID, AND A VIDEO WE MADE!"

And was it necessary for her to pick something out of her teeth? Again, an element better saved for the end of the video...

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Hey people, this is a great video... I've actually liked all their recent videos... this one is so sweet and it's a bit like seeing a mate of the young Bernard in the suburban Manchester, this video, with the song, it's a wonderful anthem to love. Only problem is it won't ever be shown on daytime TV, and I'm not sure it will be shown in night time either... Now, why make such a commercial song like Krafty and then release it with a video that can't be shown as you still were an indie band? What a pity, it could have been a hit if the video got shown like Crystal, but now they can count only on radio play and studio appearances... A huge thank you to those who made it available in Real and Win formats!

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote: Hey people, this is a great video... I've actually liked all their recent videos... this one is so sweet and it's a bit like seeing a mate of the young Bernard in the suburban Manchester, this video, with the song, it's a wonderful anthem to love. Only problem is it won't ever be shown on daytime TV, and I'm not sure it will be shown in night time either... Now, why make such a commercial song like Krafty and then release it with a video that can't be shown as you still were an indie band? What a pity, it could have been a hit if the video got shown like Crystal, but now they can count only on radio play and studio appearances... A huge thank you to those who made it available in Real and Win formats!

Considered that maybe they're attempting to get the Eric Prydz factor? Clean the video up a TINY bit (About 8 seconds cut in Prydz's case), get it on during the day, mention that the video had to be cut, have the full video on the CD. Sell loads to total pervs. Sorted :thumb:

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did this Mick character see the same video that I did?!?!?

Because I still think it sucks...it's one of the worst videos I have ever seen...I'd rather watch a baking pie!!!

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Jeff wrote: did this Mick character see the same video that I did?!?!?

Because I still think it sucks...it's one of the worst videos I have ever seen...I'd rather watch a baking pie!!!

Now would you rather watch someone fucking a pie?

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The video is obviously ingenious well beyond the pale of the common New Order fan. It attempts to be a post-Marxist scenario by showing two starving proletarians rebelling against the means of production by leaving the workplace and taking their enslavement within their own hands as they reach for a utopian goal so much greater than monetary gain alone. This depiction of a proletarian movement is emphasized by the rather everyday appearance of the actors. Of course, this takes the video out of the realm of economics and into social politics, but we won't get ahead of ourselves. This utopian notion is complicated by the video's place within the capitalist discourse as a creation of one of the largest music corporations, designed entirely for profitability in its aims for the youth culture market. The temporary destabilization of the bourgeois site of oppression (via workers' rebellion communist chic) is contradicted by the high-class look of the video itself, as manifested in the high-tech camera movement. The video is clearly not within the means of creation by the working class, thus marking it clearly as a product of the corporate system. Skipping over a variety of psychoanalytic means of reading the text, we can note an example of post-Get Ready era intertextuality in the same director of the Crystal video moving from a FACTORY setting to a sex scene, much in the way that Michael Winterbottom moved from '24 Hour Party People' to 'Nine Songs.' The embarrassing jouissance expressed by the two lovers at the end of the video serves to undercut the artificiality of the premise itself and the accompanying gross naivete of the song's lyrics in an example of truly postmodern irony.

And if you think I'm serious about any of that, you better believe I just pulled that out of my ass. :rolleyes: :D

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David....I made it half way through your thoughtful post when my brain suddenly sexploded....

my kitty cats are typing this out for me....but they are pissed, because I will no longer be able to feed them....

they also agree that this video SUCKS...

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Jeff wrote: David....I made it half way through your thoughtful post when my brain suddenly sexploded....

my kitty cats are typing this out for me....but they are pissed, because I will no longer be able to feed them....

they also agree that this video SUCKS...

Thoughtful? Hardly. I was just taking the piss.

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me too...you didn't seem to notice that my brain Sexploded!!!

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Jeff wrote: me too...you didn't seem to notice that my brain Sexploded!!!

sorry, Jeff. I can't read. I've been illegitimate for years. :nonono:

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That was the best thing Ive ever read online David, weather it was meant to take the piss or not, it articulated what I was thinking, and was still funny.

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An absolutely lame, uniteresting, UNINSPIRING video!! :thumbdown:

The song is upbeat and all that but the video is in gothic colors (even Bauhaus's videos were brighter much more fun) and the actors are to amateurish. Just FUCKING BORING!! :sleep:

BUT one thing made me smile. I don't know where they shot the video, but those multistory building blocks remind me of those of the outskirts of Russian big cities as well as something Finnish and Checz. On the other hand I saw such blocks in Edinburgh... But it's tipically municipal.:evil4:

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I seem to recall Cabaret Voltaire's Kino video employing the swinging-overhead camera effect quite well some 20 years ago.

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Does anybody know why NO stopped appearing in their video?

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By the way, I think the video is alright.

I must admit I was hoping for something a little different. Perhaps footage of the band visiting strip joints and then riding off into the night on custom choppers ala Motley Crue's 'Girls, Girls, Girls' video.

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Yuki Kojima wrote: Does anybody know why NO stopped appearing in their video?

You should ask yourself WHY they appeared in 3 out of 4 videos from Republic... that's the question.

Beside World In Motion, the band didn't shoot a video since Blue Monday 88... you see them LIVE on several other videos, but they never acted for the video...

I guess they enjoyed the Technique videos.. Fine Time and Round & Round are the best example of them not being in the video... Run is the exception because they had live footage...

I guess when they signed with Warner it was in their contract, otherwise I can't explain the 3 Republic videos. World In Motion was an event with the England football team, so they couldn't pass I guess.

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I wonder when we'll start seeing it on channels like VH2 and The Amp in the UK.

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I liked the camera work, but the video is quite lame. It´s dark and the actors... too amateur... well, NO videos use to be lame:)

Let´s expect the next one.

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Eh, it's just a pop promo, for f...'s sake. If the music doesn't speak to you then why are you listening? If you compare this to, Crystal, or 60 mph, it's equally crap. I don't think it really takes off to the 'squidgy' noise in the middle - take that how you like, eh, I keep wanting to make lame sex puns. I'm obviously not the only one(s). To give them their due, they've always just let get directors get on with it, and it's paid off a couple of times; pretty much the same as their covers - the new one is a mistake, Get Ready worked.

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Hmmm... the couple in the vid.Having a relationship with someone you work with isnt always a good idea;) .I fit goes sour you still have to see th other person when you go to work.Ive been there.I got another job in th end!!.

And they appear to live with each other as well as work with each other?....That`s some strong love being put to the test.

Anyway ermm.. the vid.Yeah whatever:sleep:

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Regarding when we will actually see the krafty video on the mmusic channels ..its already VH2s "Video of the Week" ..(for what its worth )...and was also on tues evening on a slot on VH2 "New order : Then and Now".So it looks like Promotional wheels are actually going into action ....

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Actually just watched the vid again and i found myself smiling and feeling ever so happy for the couple.:) :)

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: The video is obviously ingenious well beyond the pale of the common New Order fan. It attempts to be a post-Marxist scenario by showing two starving proletarians rebelling against the means of production by leaving the workplace and taking their enslavement within their own hands as they reach for a utopian goal so much greater than monetary gain alone. This depiction of a proletarian movement is emphasized by the rather everyday appearance of the actors. Of course, this takes the video out of the realm of economics and into social politics, but we won't get ahead of ourselves. This utopian notion is complicated by the video's place within the capitalist discourse as a creation of one of the largest music corporations, designed entirely for profitability in its aims for the youth culture market. The temporary destabilization of the bourgeois site of oppression (via workers' rebellion communist chic) is contradicted by the high-class look of the video itself, as manifested in the high-tech camera movement. The video is clearly not within the means of creation by the working class, thus marking it clearly as a product of the corporate system. Skipping over a variety of psychoanalytic means of reading the text, we can note an example of post-Get Ready era intertextuality in the same director of the Crystal video moving from a FACTORY setting to a sex scene, much in the way that Michael Winterbottom moved from '24 Hour Party People' to 'Nine Songs.' The embarrassing jouissance expressed by the two lovers at the end of the video serves to undercut the artificiality of the premise itself and the accompanying gross naivete of the song's lyrics in an example of truly postmodern irony.

And if you think I'm serious about any of that, you better believe I just pulled that out of my ass. :rolleyes: :D

Good. All of that pretentious diction was making me want to strangle you - or at least shut you up.

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I refuse to watch this video. Too shy for that. :evil4:

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it would have been far better if it'd had shown her nagging him an hour later about watching too much football on TV and leaving his trainers lying about the room

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Spotnick wrote:

Well I have been asked by Warner to take down the video on here

But you can also see it there:

http://www.animero.com/warner/neworder/cdon/neworder.html

Enjoy.

did they give you a reason? surely nobody's going to rip the Real Media file onto a DVD and sell them on Ebay.

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I really like the video, but then I'm in love so what can I say... :)

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Spotnick wrote:

Well I have been asked by Warner to take down the video on here

But you can also see it there:

http://www.animero.com/warner/neworder/cdon/neworder.html

Enjoy.

That's funny. This website, which is being linked to by Reprise and other Warner websites, is doing more to promote this new album then they are. Warners doesn't even have an official website up with the single only weeks away from being released. If anything they should be providing video and audio clips to you and also contributing to the cost of this website.:nod:

Instead of cutting off promotion efforts being done by this website maybe they should look at themselves, they did a shity job of promoting Get Ready, lets hope WFTSC will be diffenent.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote:

Spotnick wrote:

Well I have been asked by Warner to take down the video on here

But you can also see it there:

http://www.animero.com/warner/neworder/cdon/neworder.html

Enjoy.

did they give you a reason? surely nobody's going to rip the Real Media file onto a DVD and sell them on Ebay.

First contact was that I didn't ask permission... second contact (the person who gives permission) said to take it out.

So I did...but anyways, anybody reading this thread is able to download the video... so it's not really a big deal.

However I'm waiting for explanation... I have some good and some bad contact with the labels, but Warner UK is a tough one to understand..

But they know that I'm helping them do their job, so they do collaborate... probably the 2nd one (contact) didn't know about it though. C'mon, it was a real video file, nothing harmful, it's not like I would have posted a divx file or something.

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I liked the video. Looks like it´s shot in one of the northern suburbs of Stockholm, Rinkeby or Spånga? Maybe Sundbyberg? Not surprising since Renck is living in Stockholm. The kids looks very british, thin and pale, unhealthy thin. I used to have a sweater like the boy has in the video in the mid 70´s.

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James Weaver wrote: I really like the video, but then I'm in love so what can I say... :)

Socialist! :nonono:

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I liked the video. I was remember of Kent videos

:D

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Thataboy wrote: I like the camera work, but this is a lame video.

A big problem is that the actors are unwatchable. They are hideous, emaciated, and can't kiss to save their lives. Worst kissing I have ever seen! And honestly, kids, eat a Twinkie.

about what i would've said. not interesting to watch at all.

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Originally posted by Spotnick First contact was that I didn't ask permission... second contact (the person who gives permission) said to take it out.So I did...but anyways, anybody reading this thread is able to download the video... so it's not really a big deal.However I'm waiting for explanation... I have some good and some bad contact with the labels, but Warner UK is a tough one to understand..But they know that I'm helping them do their job, so they do collaborate... probably the 2nd one (contact) didn't know about it though. C'mon, it was a real video file, nothing harmful, it's not like I would have posted a divx file or something.

It may be due to the fact that the labels are starting to change their view on videos - from being a promotional tool to becoming a revenue generator. Check out this article (originally from the New York Times).

Also, the problems with Warner UK may be because you're Canadian... :) No offense, but Warner UK and Warner US/CA are probably two different divisions and it's probably Warner US/CA's responsibility to handle all the promotion in that region...

Now, hook me up with Warner Sweden and I'll promote the heck out of New Order ;)

/TLV

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Agree with the actors bit, they should've gotten Frankie Muniz and Lindsay Lohan (or Hilary Duff) instead. :crazy:

The idea and camera work of the video fits well with the song too...the first kiss/makeout/feel-up/shag with a great girl makes you wanna jump up and down on a rooftop to crazy synth and bell sounds.

Better than 98.3% of the shite on music TV nowadays.

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Strange how everyone is complaining about the video and now even about New Order sleeve-art... what the fuck are you nagging about? I can't think of any other band (except for maybe the Pet Shop Boys) that provided us with so many beautiful sleeves than New Order. As a graphic designer myself I can only be bloody envious about the constant quality of Peter Saville's work... so fuckin constant that I'm a 100% confident that the new sleeves will turn out fine once again... oh yes, and what's wrong with this video? If you prefere booty and baseballcaps I think you've joined the wrong band a few years ago!

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i like the rooftop jumping around etc. scnes.qutie ermm.. joyful:D

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You know what, when I first saw it I thought it was kinda shit, but it's better now that I've seen it again. It fits the song in terms of content, they're both upbeat, and I like the way the camera follows the drumbeat.

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It's not that I don't like the video, i actually love the video. But, it is a clear rip-off of the Kent-video "Kärleken Väntar". Even the way the sex-scen is filmed, with the clothes next to the bed, with the chewinggum, and everything else.

The only real big diffrences is the jump-scen at the end, where the kids jump in the bed in the kent video, and here jump on top of a roof top.

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its kinda sweet and cute, kids enjoying life...suppossed to follow the mood of the song

would you guys prefer stereotypical softcore porn? bizarre. you guys are just jealous that you cant have sweet pure fun like that, i know i am:(

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definitely reminiscent of those calvin klein ads with the prepubescents in front of the wood paneling.

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Originally posted by LE Roberts 2. Who the hell gets off work at 3?

*Erm, many working on shifts, actually. You start at 7 and get off at 3...

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Originally posted by David Röhr It's not that I don't like the video, i actually love the video. But, it is a clear rip-off of the Kent-video "Kärleken Väntar". Even the way the sex-scen is filmed, with the clothes next to the bed, with the chewinggum, and everything else.The only real big diffrences is the jump-scen at the end, where the kids jump in the bed in the kent video, and here jump on top of a roof top.

i got curious and googled around for the kent video. watch it here:

http://android8.users.whitehat.dk/wordpress/index.php?p=267

it's the third link for "Kärleken väntar (Video)".

yeah it's quite similar in terms of what happens in the video, if not the feel of it all. the camera movements obviously make a big difference.

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