Guilt is a Useless...question

Is it just me or does that nice snapping sound punctuating the lyrics of this song (you know the one I mean, it's also at the very end) sound like a can of beer opening?

I can just imagine Barney in the studio: "Put some more echo effect on that can of Stella!"

I don't know Dave. The song is crap and I can't even force myself to listen to it. Just listen to those creepy female backing vocals. Ew!

I gave into tempation, and am listening to the album now.

I think guilt is a useless emotion is fantastic. the crack noise you refer (along with loads of other effects) to is on Lu Conts (great) Gwen Stefani remix.

I really think this song is great. Like what the b-side to republic should've been had the band been more together at the time. Pity there isnt more hooky though.

They fouled up with those "I need your love" backing vocals. Is that Dawn Zee? It sounds more like a computer or a gremlin.

Originally posted by NObabe I don't know Dave. The song is crap and I can't even force myself to listen to it. Just listen to those creepy female backing vocals. Ew!

Agree...Some of the less immediate songs are growing on me, but the more i listen to this one the more i cringe.

Don't know which one's worse: Fast Synth or Guilt is blah blah. The song was meant to be crap.

the females vocals are so cliche and generic it makes me cringe... and the beats and synths during the "chrous" also seem so cliche also, not New Orderish but meant to fit in with all the other faceless songs in the genre really makes me cringe also ...

obviously this was what New Order wanted, but they are trying to be something else that they are not... to fit in with the bland mainstream club sound... it just comes across as bland and tacky... almost a generic faceless track at first listen.

.... but if you listen a few times and get used to it, there IS a good, energetic song in there.... it's just a shame that New Order was willing to give away their individuality that much to try to fit in with the bland faceless crowd:(

Originally posted by Al Jarvis Question: is this the shittest New Order song title ever? Absolutely awful.

Probably up there with Slow Jam and Rock the Shack in the cringeful name stakes. Who did they think they were, The Kings of Leon?

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Originally posted by A Siren's Touch Hahaha, once again coming from a chick who just don't get it when it comes to techno!I do agree when it comes to the name of the song though... eeesh!

This chick DO get it when it comes to lawyers.

actually i think i get it now... the "Guilt" in the title is the guilt about releasing the song as produced... the idea is that being guilty about the track is useless, New order is just going to go ahead and have fun, everybody can piss off

It's not A useless but AN useless

I really like "Guilt is a useless emotion". I think it will draw in lots of new fans and is great remix fodder. Maybe too hip for some of the more old New Order fans, I dunno. Either way, I don't know if I would make it a single but it's catchy and would be great for DJs.

Fast Synth is an USELESS track

ooseless?

Of course it's a beer can opening noise! Barney was in the studio and probably yelled out something like, "this track needs more Stella!" (As you suggested Dave).

Anyways Guilt is what it is, a cliche dance song that sounds amazing. Still my favorite track on the album.

Great avatar, Tristan!

Originally posted by Jackson Withrow I really like "Guilt is a useless emotion". I think it will draw in lots of new fans and is great remix fodder. Maybe too hip for some of the more old New Order fans, I dunno. Either way, I don't know if I would make it a single but it's catchy and would be great for DJs.

hip? its much more modern than 80s dance if that is what you mean, but most USA urban "hip" club scene DJs would normally never play such a vocal/ beat styled track except to be ironic, thou "Guilt" should get play in the "all-gay" clubs where they play the effete diva stuff.

it's really not a bad track... just a bit too much, and New Order diluted... you could almost say its so dorky its cool from that viewpoint

Originally posted by A Siren's Touch Hahaha, once again coming from a chick who just don't get it when it comes to techno!I do agree when it comes to the name of the song though... eeesh!

Techno?

Originally posted by Spotnick I'm not surprised that many people don't like this track.Obviously, those people probably don't like remixes too.This is probably the best dance track New Order did since 1987 (not counting remixes here!)Didn't like it at all at first, but this rapidly became of of my favorites...

So Guilt is better than certain tracks off of Technique?

NOTHING is better than technique.

I do hope they play this song live. It is one of my favourite on the album. Is Dawn now a member of the band like Phil?

Another Question: Which song was played by Hooky in the DJ sets?

Originally posted by Clockwork C Another Question: Which song was played by Hooky in the DJ sets?

In the press release Hooky talks about playing Working Overtime in his sets and "people loving it"

IMHO - when I first heard this song I was completely in love with it. But having listened to it more and had a chance to reflect, I really think now that the rest of the song is brilliant (i.e. hooky's bass at the start of the 2nd verse is a quintessential NO moment), but the chorus is pure cheese. The lads should have rewritten the chorus or taken it out or something. The female vocals just ruin it, but even without them musically that whole section of the song just falls apart.

I HATE the backing vocals, ruin a decent song

I hate fast synth and backing vocals. It sounds like very worst Electronic song.

I am new, and I don't get you people.

Why the hate for female backing vocals? I think they sound great.

It doesn't in ANY way sound like PSB or Electronic (Hey Joe and Hey Now sound WAY more Electronic than Guilt).

And the title sucks, but it is a well-done, catchy electro-dancepop song. It adds a well-appreciated shot of diversity to the album.