This is Bullshit! New Order, get your asses to North America and Tour! Damnit!

What the f---! I can't believe I fell for the same NewOrder bullshit they usually pull...

No fricking North American Tour? All they are doing are festivals this summer? What the shit!!!

New Order, what is your f-ing problem with touring and getting out to see your fans????....I am frustrated beyond belief...everyday I visit this awesome site and find out that they are playing, yet, another festival in Europe.

Yes, I know they are coming to Coachella...Do I want to stand around in the desert waiting for Neworder to play a 45 minute setlist? No f-ing way!....It would also be impossible for me to make it that weekend because of other plans...

I don't know about you guys, but I am about through with this band. I haven't seen them come to Chicago since 1993 and that concert wasn't even that great...I think they barely played an hour.

Damn, look at the band "Phoenix" they just came to my city a couple months ago and they are again slated to return this spring in April...and they are just a little tiny band from France that barely has the audience of New Order. The fact is, New Order doesn't give a shit about their fans..festivals are a cop-out....no pressure to play a long set list and half the people there might not even pay attention to them....

Even M83 is visiting Chicago...Also,I just saw Keane play last week and I just heard on their website forum that they will return in late spring or early summer....These bands, obviously give a damn about their fanbase.

NewOrder, the hell with ya'.....

They seem to have about as much interest in coming to play for their fans in various cities as I do in going to the desert to see them play a 45 minute set.

Rob, those "tiny" bands that now and then come to play in Chicago do it for some little money. New Order as you must know played ALOT in 1980-81-82-83... in North America - when they were that type of a "tiny" half-recognizable band. They also did it for some little money: a bunch of their singles and a few albums hardly made them rich enough to keep up with investments into the Hacienda.

What, can you imagine them playing in some small Chicago club? I doubt.

Calm down. If we want to see them we have to see them where they play. With a bit of luck they might be doing a few more dates. I don't see them getting all their gear over there for just one date. Most here however don't see them doing this.

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Well in case you haven't seen a picture of Barney lately i'll let you in on a little secret....they're old!

If you were a fan during the 80's then you could have caught them live almost every year. Take a look at the US tour dates.

What makes something special is rarity. This is what made the Area 51 show in California so cool. Seeing people wearing New Order shirts was flat out surreal. I sure wish I had kept my '89 USA Technique tour shirt because there were people wearing theirs, not to mention someone in a Substance tour shirt.

New Order have such a small fanbase left in the USA why would they tour? Who would go?

Anyways, they conquered America once (USA '89) and memories are always better than the real thing.

I've noticed that most of the people on here telling the North American fans to shut-up, and stop your crying, are fans who will get a chance to see New Order live this year. You guys have to understand, the thought of not getting a chance to see your favorite band live really sucks.

The comment about New Order barely having any fans left in the US is bullshit in my opinion. And I do wish that New Order will care enough about their US fans, and come play at a few more US dates.

It is early, so here's hoping that New Order will play at a few more US dates.

Always 2006. Remember that they pimped Get Ready in both 2001 and 2002. Also they are getting old, look at those photos! But at least 3 dates in the US--Coachella, Chicago and New York.

And they've never played in any of the places I lived for significant periods, either. Not while I was there anyway.

Those who would like to point out that we are only telling septics to stop whinging because we are going to see them play this year....that's right, we are going to see them play this year because we are going to travel thousands of miles to do just that. To Germany, Spain, Sweden, maybe Scotland and Ireland, maybe even Coachella if I can get the time off work.

Originally posted by 5 8 6 The comment about New Order barely having any fans left in the US is bullshit in my opinion. And I do wish that New Order will care enough about their US fans, and come play at a few more US dates.

Maybe all these fans should start buying records then and convincing Warner that New Order have a product that is worth promoting in the States..... caring about fans disappeared a long time ago, they are are a business, not the Libertines!

Tim.

Were you not living in Worcester when they played Malvern ??

Sheffield was always good to me.

Regarding this topic the post by Mr Doig sums everything up quite well.

Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL Tim.Were you not living in Worcester when they played Malvern ??Sheffield was always good to me. Regarding this topic the post by Mr Doig sums everything up quite well.

No, I was living in Coventry at the time. It was a Friday night though, so was able to stop at the parents before the trip down to the Smoke!

Originally posted by Spotnick And if New Order doesn't do other dates in North America by the end of 2006... I pull the plug on this website! damn it, with the other album due for 2006, there is no way in hell they can do that to us, we haven't seen them in the east coast since 1993!

Toys and prams? They will be 50 by the end of 2006, they aren't renowned for their love of live performance, and have no reason to want to play America.

What people don't seem to realise is that the album isn't even out yet until the end of next month - quite a few tour plans will probably be announced next month so as to maximise publicity/news headlines at the time of the album release.

Here in the UK, we've only had 3 festival dates tentatively announced - no tour at the moment, and not even a single live date. Certainly, with any of those dates, I'd need to spend quite a bit of cash and book time off work - none of them are on my doorstep by any means!

So, be patient, you never know what might be announced in the next couple of weeks... :)

l8rs,

Nick ;)

I can't believe they wont play in my back garden!!!!!

In all my years in this house they have never played here!

I feel like moving to another house with a bigger garden - possibly punchestown racecourse

One Brain wrote:

Spotnick wrote:

One Brain wrote: This kind of thread is so amusing and there's a new one almost every day. Keep 'em coming!

Changes us from "they better warm up in April" ;)

I'll just keep my mouth shut from now on. Talking too much about this brings bad luck.

Guys, there is something you now and don't want to tell? Any rumours about a show in Latin America?...

Shit, we've been rumbled. They have actually agreed to play a gig in Julio's rectum, it's just a case of signing the contracts.

New Order could easily play nice midrange venues they player in the mid 80s here in the states. 2-3000 seats at $35 a pop is $70k a show.. though i would suspect tickets might be even more. it's not like they have this HUGE stage display, so what's holding them back? they are CUNTS! :D

Yes of course they could do. Why should they bother though? Bernard doesn't like playing live, they don't need the money, and septics keep calling them cunts all the time. They don't need to put themselves out.

I think you need to shut your ass about the "cunt" comment....also, them about being too old and having enough money is irrelevant...Look at the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen??? How about Paul McCartney? Those guys play huge shows! Huge Venues and play a setlist longer than 45 minutes.

Plain and simple, New Order will have deceived their fans once again if they fail to embark on a full-fledged tour of Europe and North America...

Frankly, I think that is very arrogant of NewOrder to think that they have "enough money" so they shouldn't have to tour? Then why release a fucking album? Obviously they need some money or enjoy getting the money from the sales? Think about it....

Spotnick...good call about shutting your site down if they don't tour by at least 2006. I agree, if they don't do something for their fans on a wider scale, I will officially put neworder in my "where are they now?" file. They will be a distant memory and I will concentrate my efforts on bands that give a shit about their fans, like Phoenix, Keane, Interpol, M83, The Ocean Blue, The Killers, amongst others...

Come on Fans!!! Get Angry...Let New Order know that you are pissed and that you will not stand for this bullshit any longer. Also, what was the bullshit on this site about another album coming out in the summer of 2006? Are you freaking retarded? Do you know the history of this band and releasing new material? If they have a new album in 2006...I will be utterly amazed...it won't happen and quit dreaming...

Rob Revilo wrote: Come on Fans!!! Get Angry...Let New Order know that you are pissed and that you will not stand for this bullshit any longer.

I get angry if they don't come to Berlin within the next 12 months, okay?

This is hilarious - so you're prepared to write off New Order because they have announced a live apperance in the USA, but you 'have plans' that weekend - and this is 'bullshit' on their part? Do you honestly think that you are 'owed' a tour that is convenient for your timetable and location? In case you need it spelt out, New Order don't tour much these days, for many different reasons. When an opportunity arises, ie. they announce a festival appearance in your country, go and see them - you may not get another chance. As many have pointed out here, many other fans plan to travel across several countries to see NO live this year. I have no expectations that they'll visit Australia again soon - and we waited 15 years between appeararnces - but I'm not naive enough to think that they owe me a concert that fits with my diary. We were very lucky to get a 'tour' in 2002, and I don't expect another. Oh, and you're also expecting them to be better than the gig you saw in 1993, or you'll consign them to the 'where are they now' file? I bet they are absolutely shitting themselves...

oldmonkey wrote: Shit, we've been rumbled. They have actually agreed to play a gig in Julio's rectum, it's just a case of signing the contracts.

will they only be playing joy division songs?

Nice venue for natural reverb, I hear

Originally posted by Rob Revilo I think you need to shut your ass about the "cunt" comment......

I need to shut my ass?

not quite as angry as you, but I understand your frustration. I've seen new order several times in the states, the shows were short, but I truly loved them. From what I hear the boys hate touring, and only hate touring the states worse. But I have no doubt they would sell out across north america if they do come. perhaps will can lure them with promises of virgins and diet coke?

Basil Angelo wrote: not quite as angry as you, but I understand your frustration. I've seen new order several times in the states, the shows were short, but I truly loved them. From what I hear the boys hate touring, and only hate touring the states worse. But I have no doubt they would sell out across north america if they do come. perhaps will can lure them with promises of virgins and diet coke?

Basil you've cracked it! What we need to do is find a way of getting all the lucky British fans who get to see them 586 times a year to come over to the States, and maybe then their good mates the band themselves will come over to see what all the fuss is about. Simple really!

Originally posted by Rob Revilo I think you need to shut your ass about the "cunt" comment....also, them about being too old and having enough money is irrelevant...Look at the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen??? How about Paul McCartney? Those guys play huge shows! Huge Venues and play a setlist longer than 45 minutes. Plain and simple, New Order will have deceived their fans once again if they fail to embark on a full-fledged tour of Europe and North America...Frankly, I think that is very arrogant of NewOrder to think that they have "enough money" so they shouldn't have to tour? Then why release a fucking album? Obviously they need some money or enjoy getting the money from the sales? Think about it....Spotnick...good call about shutting your site down if they don't tour by at least 2006. I agree, if they don't do something for their fans on a wider scale, I will officially put neworder in my "where are they now?" file. They will be a distant memory and I will concentrate my efforts on bands that give a shit about their fans, like Phoenix, Keane, Interpol, M83, The Ocean Blue, The Killers, amongst others...Come on Fans!!! Get Angry...Let New Order know that you are pissed and that you will not stand for this bullshit any longer. Also, what was the bullshit on this site about another album coming out in the summer of 2006? Are you freaking retarded? Do you know the history of this band and releasing new material? If they have a new album in 2006...I will be utterly amazed...it won't happen and quit dreaming...

Imagine how the XTC fans feel about their band's rigorous touring schedule?

New Order are playing at Coachella so fuck you all! :D

Only kidding, New Order should do a proper tour. I should be able to see them tour San Diego, Irvine and LA, so that I could see the band three more times.

People People this is New Order we are talking about, not The Cure, Rolling Stones etc of the album every 1 or 2 year or and tour every year variety.

New Order one of the laziest bands in the world.

New Order who got into music because they didn't want a 9-5 full time job.

New Order who only do things because it "tickles their brains".

New Order who have always only done what they wanted, and what they enjoyed.

New Order who quit when being New Order was no longer fun.

Be happy they are together annd making music. Be happy they are actually playing in your country/continent. (As far as i know they are not coming to Oz)

Be happy they are happy they are happy doing what they do.

And one more thing. From where do you get the idea that New Order owe you anything. You enjoy their music, I hope. So if anything you owe them.

Say Rob, I have a fiver saying that The Cure will be in our neck of the woods before New Order.

I might have calmed down by now...I was really angry and in a terrible mood when I wrote those initial messages. you made a lot of good points, especially the one about them not being "passionate"...so true.

Right, they need to make a more longterm stay in the states. Not this 2 or 3 dates bs. Coachella is a crap fest anyway..my friend went to it last year and told me that he would never go again regardless of the groups that attended. He was in constant agony from the heat...

That "fiver" bet is not too fair...you will win easily. The Cure are devoted to their fans....

A Siren's Touch wrote: I quite agree with Rob's message.

If Bernard doesn't like to tour, well maybe it would be time for him to do something else than being the lead singer of an international pop-rock band.

I say "international", but it seems that New Order today is more than a band for the Europe market. If they were a young band, we'd probably never hear of them this side of the pond, and they would be just another St-Etienne or Doves (which we DO know but only on the alternative channel).

I mean, come on... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! You know what annoys me the most? The fact that they do not seem PASSIONATE about what they're doing anymore. It's easy for me to say, but if I had the possibility to play my music everywhere in the world, I wouldn't miss on that chance.

But still, I'll wait a little more longer before throwing the towel -- they still have the chance to come up with more dates in North America. And when I mean "more", I mean MANY MORE -- not just 2 or 3 stops for christ's sake!!! Not everyone here has the chance to leave town for a few days and spend hundreds of dollars only to see a fucking musical group.

I feel better now.

Thanks Rob!

Being the same age as the band, I can completely sympathize with their lack of passion for touring. I have a similar lack of passion for spending a ridiculous sum of money and traveling a thousand miles to some sunburnt desert shitehole to see a band that doesn't give a toss about its fans.

Having seen the NME broadcast, I really don't want to bother with paying an exorbitant sum to stand under a blazing sun to watch Barney mangle one song after another with his whsitling, shouting, and "dancing" anyway. The records are much, much better, and can be had for reasonable money. Besides, if I want to see a live performance, sooner or later the Cure will come through town, because Robert Smith does care about his fans.

Just as long as the tapers and FM broadcasts are able to go to the few gigs they do....

Robert Smith refuses to have children. Steve's daughter is ill, Peter and Barney have children with their second wives. Just like that interview said, they like weekend gigs, gives em something to look forward to. They paid their dues but it hurts knowing that most of us will not have an opportunity to see themonce again.

I think if they did the occasional weekend gig, they'd have some satisfied fans. Jet across the Atlantic, play a gig or two, jet back home.

oldmonkey wrote: Yes of course they could do. Why should they bother though? Bernard doesn't like playing live, they don't need the money, and septics keep calling them cunts all the time. They don't need to put themselves out.

INTERESTING!

Rob Revilo wrote: I might have calmed down by now...I was really angry and in a terrible mood when I wrote those initial messages. you made a lot of good points, especially the one about them not being "passionate"...so true. Right, they need to make a more longterm stay in the states. Not this 2 or 3 dates bs. Coachella is a crap fest anyway..my friend went to it last year and told me that he would never go again regardless of the groups that attended. He was in constant agony from the heat... That "fiver" bet is not too fair...you will win easily. The Cure are devoted to their fans....

A Siren's Touch wrote: I quite agree with Rob's message. If Bernard doesn't like to tour, well maybe it would be time for him to do something else than being the lead singer of an international pop-rock band. I say "international", but it seems that New Order today is more than a band for the Europe market. If they were a young band, we'd probably never hear of them this side of the pond, and they would be just another St-Etienne or Doves (which we DO know but only on the alternative channel). I mean, come on... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! You know what annoys me the most? The fact that they do not seem PASSIONATE about what they're doing anymore. It's easy for me to say, but if I had the possibility to play my music everywhere in the world, I wouldn't miss on that chance. But still, I'll wait a little more longer before throwing the towel -- they still have the chance to come up with more dates in North America. And when I mean "more", I mean MANY MORE -- not just 2 or 3 stops for christ's sake!!! Not everyone here has the chance to leave town for a few days and spend hundreds of dollars only to see a fucking musical group. I feel better now. Thanks Rob!

Calm down mate..they are ONLY a fcuking POP GROUP!

A Siren's Touch wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: Shit, we've been rumbled. They have actually agreed to play a gig in Julio's rectum, it's just a case of signing the contracts.

I bet you'll die for a front-row seat !

I think they call that a ring-side seat

lovewill wrote:

A Siren's Touch wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: Shit, we've been rumbled. They have actually agreed to play a gig in Julio's rectum, it's just a case of signing the contracts.

I bet you'll die for a front-row seat !

I think they call that a ring-side seat

Bum Bum

Breaking News!!!

My foot was successful removed from my mouth by the best medical team in the greater Chicago area...Thanks for the concern and I will calm down from now on....

Rob

That, or the band read your post.

Rob Revilo wrote: I think you need to shut your ass about the "cunt" comment....also, them about being too old and having enough money is irrelevant...Look at the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen??? How about Paul McCartney? Those guys play huge shows! Huge Venues and play a setlist longer than 45 minutes.

Plain and simple, New Order will have deceived their fans once again if they fail to embark on a full-fledged tour of Europe and North America...

Frankly, I think that is very arrogant of NewOrder to think that they have "enough money" so they shouldn't have to tour? Then why release a fucking album? Obviously they need some money or enjoy getting the money from the sales? Think about it....

Spotnick...good call about shutting your site down if they don't tour by at least 2006. I agree, if they don't do something for their fans on a wider scale, I will officially put neworder in my "where are they now?" file. They will be a distant memory and I will concentrate my efforts on bands that give a shit about their fans, like Phoenix, Keane, Interpol, M83, The Ocean Blue, The Killers, amongst others...

Come on Fans!!! Get Angry...Let New Order know that you are pissed and that you will not stand for this bullshit any longer. Also, what was the bullshit on this site about another album coming out in the summer of 2006? Are you freaking retarded? Do you know the history of this band and releasing new material? If they have a new album in 2006...I will be utterly amazed...it won't happen and quit dreaming...

keane? FFS!

LEAVE Roy alone you FACHUNT

Sorry i left your T in the park.

Rocket Mick wrote: Sorry i left your T in the park.

wotcha RM going to barca?

I did a LONG reply but it has VANISHED.

The short answer is MONEY TOO TIGHT TO MENTION..Simply broke.

How are you and where have you been?

i RED what you said, i have been frantic, elevating myself to post a bit more maybe now?

changed jobs etc etc, work from home now. in same boat but i think fcuk it - they may not tour again, you know, bit the bullet...

It's all a carefully conceived plan. Old Revile-o will saunter backstage and tell them they have been deceiving their fans and all that crap, and he will get his head caved in by a Shergold headstock....

Jeff wrote: Well...if the band read any of this threads messages...I think Chicago would be the last fucking place in the world that they would go to...I know if I was in the band, and I read the rant, there's no way in HELL I would set foot in Chicago...

now Austin, TX on the other hand...it is the live music capital of the world...

Whatever! Everyone know that Fort Lauderdale, FL is the REAL music capital of the World!