Top Billing, Equal Footing.

Its a trusty old formula which hasn't been wheeled out in a number of minutes, but is it time to ignite discussion of an all time best ever topping, taking into consideration the brand new pizza base?

With the capping of a 60minute cassette, 10 tracks are all that can be prized in. I wonder who'll side with PC&L?, will the singles triumph? - Did man ever land on the moon?

Here goes ... I'm going in ...

1. Crystalline
2. Cheese in a senseless Proportion
3. Who goes by the name of Jane?
4. Tempting Miss Daisy ('98 Retro incarnation)
5. WFTSC
6. Age of Contradiction
7. Vanquishing Point
8. Turn my Feet
9. Loan me a Loaf 10 ... Track 10

I did that quickly, it was the only way to do it.

huntsman wrote: Its a trusty old formula which hasn't been wheeled out in a number of minutes, but is it time to ignite discussion of an all time best ever topping, taking into consideration the brand new pizza base? With the capping of a 60minute cassette, 10 tracks are all that can be prized in. I wonder who'll side with PC&L?, will the singles triumph? - Did man ever land on the moon? Here goes ... I'm going in ... 1. Crystalline 2. Cheese in a senseless Proportion 3. Who goes by the name of Jane? 4. Tempting Miss Daisy ('98 Retro incarnation) 5. WFTSC 6. Age of Contradiction 7. Vanquishing Point 8. Turn my Feet 9. Loan me a Loaf 10 ... Track 10 I did that quickly, it was the only way to do it.

My first two responses, H, are how could you put #10 so low, and what in the world is #2?

Just wait there a cotton pickin' minute.

The running order is crucial to the 'mood' of the album, it does not signify a sequential quality rating!

I'm very keen to see how anybody could now formulate an album with their personal 'top 10' on.

Track 10 for Track 10 is my own personal choice to close the album, with My Loan a fine lead-in.

Track 2 is off WFTSC.

huntsman wrote: Its a trusty old formula which hasn't been wheeled out in a number of minutes, but is it time to ignite discussion of an all time best ever topping, taking into consideration the brand new pizza base? With the capping of a 60minute cassette, 10 tracks are all that can be prized in. I wonder who'll side with PC&L?, will the singles triumph? - Did man ever land on the moon? Here goes ... I'm going in ... 1. Crystalline 2. Cheese in a senseless Proportion 3. Who goes by the name of Jane? 4. Tempting Miss Daisy ('98 Retro incarnation) 5. WFTSC 6. Age of Contradiction 7. Vanquishing Point 8. Turn my Feet 9. Loan me a Loaf 10 ... Track 10 I did that quickly, it was the only way to do it.

you know what Huntsman, I was just about to post a question if any tracks from WFTSC made it into anyone's all time top 10s. must be on teh same wavelength. anyway top 10 in no particular order

1)Crystal

2)Regret

3)Temptation

4)Procession

5)Ceremony

6)blue Monday

7)Round and Round

8)Dream Attack

9)True Faith

10)WFTSC

so nearly all singles and obvious ones for me I'm afraid. my first reserves if I can't dig out the right CD are: Vanishing point, Run, Primitive notion, Age of Consent, EGG, Subculture, Turn , Leave me alone

How could I have been so stupendous? - Leaving out Regression AND Procession!

The power of choosing only 10 songs, it is a formidable force of nature.

That's a damn fine T10.

huntsman wrote: How could I have been so stupendous? - Leaving out Regression AND Procession! The power of choosing only 10 songs, it is a formidable force of nature. That's a damn fine T10.

it is, some of the top 10 tracks ever made. Shame I couldn't dig out a few more suprises but then I'd just be kidding myself...

Nothing from WFTSC whatsoever I'm afraid, and never will be I'm sure of that. It will be hard to dislodge this ten.

1. Ceremony
2. Temptation
3. Sunrise
4. Dreams Never End
5. Age of Consent
6. Perfect Kiss
7. Crystal
8. Regret
9. Love Vigilantes
10. BLT (Brotherhood only)

huntsman wrote: Just wait there a cotton pickin' minute. The running order is crucial to the 'mood' of the album, it does not signify a sequential quality rating! I'm very keen to see how anybody could now formulate an album with their personal 'top 10' on. Track 10 for Track 10 is my own personal choice to close the album, with My Loan a fine lead-in. Track 2 is off WFTSC.

Sorry, H, I obviously did not understand the concept you were getting at. From that perspective, I wholehartedly agree that #10 should be #10. The question virtually answers itself. Most of our disagreements are really misunderstandings.

Agreed P.

Monster Mash ... I noticed you hadn't been outspoken about the Sirens. I'm disappointed that your not gaining as much from it. And I'm speaking from a Ceremony / Brotherhood BLT island.

What's your line of thinking? ...

patrick wrote:

Most of our disagreements are really misunderstandings.

Why don't you two just get it over with?

I can't bear the drawn-out melodramatics any longer. It's like watching Moonlighting in the eighties, waiting for Bruce to bring Cybill her cornflakes.

Mind you, the series went to the dogs soon after.

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Enough avoidance - get that 10 posted.

1. Special

2. Temptation

3. Loveless

4. Hurt

5. Turn!

6. Regret

7. Crystal

8. BLT

9. Ceremony

10. Dream Attack

Turn makes it into my top 5!! even im amazed!!!

1. Ceremony

2. EGG

3. Temptation

4. Sunrise

5. Sooner than you think

6. True Faith

7. Dream Attack

8. Regret

9. Crystal

10. Here to Stay

No WFTSC in my Top 10, and there are at least 15 other tracks in front of any of the new songs for me. I'm afraid, but that's how I feel.

Seems like Regret, Ceremony, Crystal, Temptation are in the lead so far, and Sunrise is rated very high, too.

Age of Consent

The Village

Mr Disco

Temptation

Your Silent Face

Touched By The Hand Of God

Everything's Gone Green

Ceremony

586

Run

Who's 'Joe

Hey Now What You Doin

WFTSC

KRAFTY

I Told You So

Morning Night and Day

Dracula's Castle

Jetstream

Guilt is A Useless Emotion

Turn

And before you lot start............

I am NOT WORKING OVERTIME for no fcuker.

THREADS DEAD

The proof is emerging from the pudding, a great 50/50 divide forming; the Siren-free left, and the Siren-friendly right.

Is this is a case of pre-Technique hardcore, post-Technique softly softly?

In no particular order:

Angel Dust

True Faith

Bizzare Love Triangle

Chosen Time

Dream Attack

Sooner Than You Think

Face Up

Leave Me Alone

Temptation

Ceremony

huntsman wrote: The proof is emerging from the pudding, a great 50/50 divide forming; the Siren-free left, and the Siren-friendly right. Is this is a case of pre-Technique hardcore, post-Technique softly softly?

Consensus seems to be Waiting For The Single Corr is a worthwile persuit but Andrea's no Adriana Lima.

If only Sir Jimmy Saville was still in operation Hanksville, you could write a letter asking if he could fix it for you to take Adrian's Lima out to Burger King.

not sure I appreciate being labelled 'right' Hunts, but I'll let you off. WFTSC the song kicks the arse off anything on Lowlife in my opinion. Why people love the songs off that album amaze me to be honest. I think it's dated more than any NO album.

My 11-20 would probably feature this lot -

Lonesome Tonight Leave Me Alone The Village Blue Monday EGG Don't Do It Denial Your Silent Face Subculture Face Up

I find it very hard to include something from recent years over stuff that's been with me every waking hour since 1983, or whatever (as in the PC&L stuff). I included Crystal in my top 10 cos it's had chance to sink in, and there's so many memories wrapped up in this one track from the 2001/2 gigs. I tend to vote on most songs on what it 'means' to me, rather than how 'good' the track is.

Its the bravado of simplying recording with scant regard of repercussion isn't it SB2? - Which echoes the 'hardcore' parallel.

'We're gonna' play what we want, sing out of tune and just about eat as many scones as we can lay our hands on'. ‘And what are you gonna’ do about it!’ (NO, 1985).

Sos about suggesting you were a 'righty' - I was trying to stir a bit of broth and it backfired.

Seb Briggs2 wrote: not sure I appreciate being labelled 'right' Hunts, but I'll let you off. WFTSC the song kicks the arse off anything on Lowlife in my opinion. Why people love the songs off that album amaze me to be honest. I think it's dated more than any NO album.

Inclined to agree. None in my top ten. Then I never did any gigs til '93. Seems to feature more heavily for those who did.

I would normally be in the opinion of Monster above (i.e. living with the songs which mean something at a certain point in time) - but I just find some of the new material that good, its knocked the balance of power.

Can't do it!

10 songs is not enough.

Ive got it down to 2 selections

a:                                                                     b:

Crystal                                                            Ceremony

EGG                                                               In a Lonely Place

Hurt                                                               Lonesome Tonight

Blue Monday                                                  Ruined in a Day

True Faith (in session)                                     This time of Night

BLT (12")                                                       Brutal

Fine Time                                                        Hey Joe

Working Overtime                                           Turn

Rock the Shack                                               Run Wild

Morning Night & Day (or Let's Go)                    Your Silent Face

... unless my glasses need replacing, there has been a few inclusions of Working Overnight ... on the all time best of?