Best record in YEARS

Hello all,

I am new to this forum but I thought I'd drop a line regarding the new record.

Pure pop glory.  Great guitars, Pete Hook bass lines return in full force, The Other Two are all over this record as well.  The instrumental solos in many of the songs just scream "now Bernard plays, now Pete, now Gillian, now Stephen".  Praaise the god I do not believe in for this record.

It makes an old fart like me happy to finally have a new record that made me cry the first time I heard it.  The kings of pop have regained their throne.

I can't wait for it to come out here in the US so I can buy a few copies to give away.

Sirens call is the best track by far.

Tony

Have I said before I think it's their best album of new material since Low-Life?

Low Life rocks!

If only TunaMan was responsible for an official review.

NObabe wrote: Low Life rocks!

I agree. I didn't claim it was BETTER than Low-Life.

patrick wrote:

NObabe wrote: Low Life rocks!

I agree. I didn't claim it was BETTER than Low-Life.

I never thought you did. I just felt like saying that.

... you two aren't dating are you?

It just seems like you've hit it off.

huntsman wrote: ... you two aren't dating are you? It just seems like you've hit it off.

Which two?

one thing I'd certainly agree with there is the title track being the best by a distance. just how good is that song! genius...and should have been released instead of Krafty - Another of those strange New Orderisms - such as why is Ceremony, Procession, EGG, Temptation so incredibly brilliant and Movement so dire....

like the album a lot, but technique still does it for me more than any other

I don't know, but arguing really should be followed by make-up sex.

Good question, P! I always thought you and H were the same person.

Vandal87 wrote: I don't know, but arguing really should be followed by make-up sex.

SB2 - after banging on about the title track for over a year, I never expected it to be eclipsed by no less than '3' other tracks on the album ... and I'm a hard man to please (just ask our local baker).

I've been running LL and T through my mind and even PC&L. Its easy to get knee jerky but for what it isn't worth I'm in the mindset that WFTSC is at least equal in quality to them. And if you consider their age (Hooky now 74!). Then that's quite something.

How come the only people to see any difference between me and P is P and me?

out of interest, which 3. It stands out a mile for me to be honest. I reckon give it a month or two and it'll be back at the top of your list. I'd only heard it the once before this week.

patrick wrote: Have I said before I think it's their best album of new material since Low-Life?

Slightly disagree with you there P1. Low Life was exceptional and still is, however Technique just shades it for me. These ears of course.

That could be the key SB2 - I listened to WFTSC about 1.3 million times in the run up to the election - then Old Brown tipped me off and I received a promo copy of the album before Thanksgiving.

So then I didn't play WFTSC instead allowing the others to catch up.

Placing the disk in, for the first time, and hearing Who's Jacob ... I almost capsized. I could not, and I still cannot, believe that they have recorded a song so reminiscent of Low-Light. This is in stark contrast to The Republican and Getting Things Ready. So that's 10-15 years!?

To answer your question:

Track 1, track 9 and track 10 are on a par with the Sirens Call, where 1,3 and 10 warrant a photo-finish.

But all in all ... outstanding. Your prediction of 'it looks promising' was exemplary.

P2, if you were 15 years younger, and you were enjoying a balmy summer drinking real lemonade and collecting twigs from the woods - would your ears receive a different signal from the Sirens?

Technique was steamed with a surrounding summer holiday, WFTSC has simply emerged un-announced while a lot of us are yet to receive the Skegness caravan guide.

PHD wrote:

patrick wrote: Have I said before I think it's their best album of new material since Low-Life?

Slightly disagree with you there P1. Low Life was exceptional and still is, however Technique just shades it for me. These ears of course.

Of course, like everyone else, P2, I listened to Technique about 8 million times when it came out, but very seldom since then. I think Vanishing Point is one of their masterpieces, but the rest of the album doesn't excite me very much. But of course I understand that many well-informed people feel differently on this subject.

yeah I'd agree with your choices H, though have to admit to preferring Jetstream over Guilt at the moment, but thats probably as its more immediate. I like Morning N&D as well

After some of the stuff written in the press I wasn't too hopeful, but it's exceeded expectations.

For me it's currently 3,10,1, 8 at the mo

I'm in the minority, it would seem, over 8 and 9.

The killer coldness of the verse on 9 is very 'Technique' and reminds me of Mr. Discount ... which incidentally brought a tear to my duct upon first listen ...

... all those years ago ...

yeah lots of good memories with technique which is why it remains my favourite. never quite got Lowlife in the same way most fans do. I find it a bit cold in places. it's good but doesn't strike a heart string in the same way technique did and still does. Maybe it's cos I listened to lowlife most when I was bored at uni rather than in the sunnier days and holidays that technique lends itself to - but I can't think of many occasions when I think 'I'd just like to listen to Perfect Kiss/Elegia/that one at the end whatevers it called'. Think WFTSC title track has the same sort of punch that tracks like Dream attack and run have on technique, which is why I think it's so feckin brilliant.

huntsman wrote: I'm in the minority, it would seem, over 8 and 9. The killer coldness of the verse on 9 is very 'Technique' and reminds me of Mr. Discount ... which incidentally brought a tear to my duct upon first listen ... ... all those years ago ...

Well, I like both 8 and 9. I refuse to choose. Not as much as 3 and 10 of course.

NObabe wrote: Good question, P! I always thought you and H were the same person.

The differences between us are too numerous to mention.

9 is an outstanding track. Hit single potential. Now on a par with WJ? Can't split them.

The mere fact that there is an almost semi-debate where classic albums are being compared on the same level as the new album is itself an achievement.

And to celebrate, I may just treat myself to some crisps.

Yeah, that's a very good idea.

fair enough, I'll get myself a cup of tea then. cheers.

The new album is a little Electronic with the (massively underrated) class first side of Republic, along with a dash of Technique.

Tracks 3 & 10 - like a breath of fresh air through the soul.

Just found out it's on vinyl too (thanks NOOL homepage) - four sides! :D

Are you listening P?

huntsman wrote: Are you listening P?

To which thing in particular, H?

we have our own comedy duo, then! P&H, better than telly!

... That there is an entity with which to prove your side theory!

Have to admit it is ok

huntsman wrote: ... That there is an entity with which to prove your side theory!

Can you provide me with a little bit more precise guidance as to where I should look for that entity?

I think H&P has a bit more sauce to it (joke inspired in part by Sprinkler the Blank).

Hey Sprinkles, when do we get the official 'Mac release' of this site? ... it is a constant bane not being able to quote somebody. If you answer this I will probably break open a tube of Pringles in celebration - the last 442,000 efforts were simply cast adrift on memory bliss.

You see, without having the fabulous quote facility it looked like I'd replied to Pastie with an entirely inappropriate response mechanism.

P - the top of the page ... '4' sides to the album!!! (come on, we'll never make the stage at this rate).

huntsman wrote: You see, without having the fabulous quote facility it looked like I'd replied to Pastie with an entirely inappropriate response mechanism. P - the top of the page ... '4' sides to the album!!! (come on, we'll never make the stage at this rate).

You know perfectly well, H, that in my theory of the world, the world has THREE sides, not four. Silly H.

Sprinkler, don't miss out on the bacholorette party and Easter brunch on my account ... I did hear that the other Mac user had moved to Pluto on Tuesday.

I'm just happy that you replied - that'll do me.

Nick, i sent you an email earlier this week regarding the html issue with the editor.

I noticed it is the FreeTextBox  editor that should be compatible with Mozilla.

My guess is there is some default setting in mozilla which tells FTB to escape the generated html.

If i can find the time i will try some about:config parameters in mozilla and see if they solve these problems.

P - After your quite outspoken 'side' theory about 1am this morning (DC time) I figured you'd be damn pleased that a vinyl was being released which had sides to every corner?

I can't be held accountable if they have elected to obliterate your theory into tiny morsels by releasing 4 sides. Why not vent your anger to Henry Winkler on the 'art' thread? - I'm sure he could put a word in to NO through Peter Sausage and they could squeeze them all back onto 3 sides.

Sheesh!

huntsman wrote: P - After your quite outspoken 'side' theory about 1am this morning (DC time) I figured you'd be damn pleased that a vinyl was being released which had sides to every corner? I can't be held accountable if they have elected to obliterate your theory into tiny morsels by releasing 4 sides. Why not vent your anger to Henry Winkler on the 'art' thread? - I'm sure he could put a word in to NO through Peter Sausage and they could squeeze them all back onto 3 sides. Sheesh!

Oh, dear, now I've gone and done it! Sorry, H, I got carried away. You haven't located the Elisofon image yet, have you?

No, but somebody else has.

It took about 11 minutes, with 3 minutes spent cleaning a cup out for a brew.

Some people really take the time to clean them first?

Only if a biscuit was dropped and clung to the side over an eight month period.

Oh, well, in that case.

cue credits.

huntsman wrote: P2, if you were 15 years younger, and you were enjoying a balmy summer drinking real lemonade and collecting twigs from the woods - would your ears receive a different signal from the Sirens? Technique was steamed with a surrounding summer holiday, WFTSC has simply emerged un-announced while a lot of us are yet to receive the Skegness caravan guide.

The comparison between Low Life & Sirens' is justified from my point as well as both took a little time to hit home. Technique was an immediate attraction. I felt let down by Bhood as I'd seen the songs first hand which were a lot raw than the eventual vinyl.

I remember a balmy night in Bomere but that's another story...;)

Well done. Brilliant! There were 12"s in the 80s. But that's their best album ever.

First listen i thought mmmmm.

but after about 15 listens me fookin loves it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok so i was a bit sceptical when krafty came out but this album really is something else,this has got to be the best album they've done since pc&l !!

got to be thumbs up from unkle nuts!

yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

nuts wrote:

First listen i thought mmmmm.

but after about 15 listens me fookin loves it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok so i was a bit sceptical when krafty came out but this album really is something else,this has got to be the best album they've done since pc&l !!

got to be thumbs up from unkle nuts!

yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Thanks nuts - theres not much to add to that!

NO used to be a 'singles' band - but this is a GREAT ALBUM

Best record in years.

Depends on how many years you are talking.

Better than Get Ready and Republic..( just )

Not a patch on Technique

I just listened to the streams for the first time.  I loved it.  One of the most enjoyable albums I've heard in years.  I kept tryingo to peg it as 'sounds like x mixed with y' but I couldn't.  My perception of it kept changing.  In a world of formulaic music it was refreshing to hear that.

My first impression:

The first two tracks sound kind of in the same vein.  An inspiring call to arms feel.  Love Krafty.  ITYS wasn't at all what I though tit would be.  I thought it sounded kind of tense and pissed off.  I didn't think it was bad at all.  I can see why they want to make Jetstream a single, it's catchy as hell.  My fave was prob Working Overtime.  And yeah I loved Rock the Shack too.