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here's the "answer" on japanese booklet about WftSC... according to the lyrics here, it's "I got it all wrong cause you were not the one"!! mm, too bad coz i'm a "cause you were not the wrong one" supporter as well. :shrug:

WAITING FOR THE SIRENS' CALL

What does this ship bring to me Far across the restless sea Waiting for the sirens' call I've never seen it here before

There she plies a lonely trade Cutting through the breaking waves Drifting slowly from her course She is lost forever more

We all wan't some kind of love But sometimes it's not enough To the wall and through the door With a stranger on the shore

I won't desert you I don't know what to say I really hurt you I nearly gave it all away I got it all wrong Cause you were not the one And I don't know where to turn when your gone When your gone

Got to catch a midnight train First to Paris then to Spain Travel with a document All across the continent

City life is flying by The wheels are turning all the while Get on board we can't be late

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Our destination cannot wait

All the stars and all the worlds Filling up this universe Could never be as close as us We never shine as bright or good

I won't desert you I don't know what to say I really hurt you I nearly gave it all away I got it all wrong Cause you were not the one And I don't know where to turn when your gone When your gone

I won't desert you I don't know what to say I really hurt you I nearly gave it all away I got it all wrong Cause you were not the one And I don't know where to turn when your gone When your gone

How many times must I loose my way How many words do I have to say What can I do just to make you see That your so good For a man like a man like me

ps. i think this one is really strange... first of all, the " ' " in the word "want" ( somebody tell me what's that called please :)) and it keeps using "your gone" when it should be "you're gone," right? and "loose" my way.. i think it's grammatical correct but i think "lose" my way makes much more sense. but since it's from warner japan, it's official anyway.. again it's just for reference only. ( oh i really love the nearly end part of the song.. :blush: )

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apostrophe

btw, might be good, but the japanese lyrics are never official, so you take it and leave it, it's people doing the exact same thing we're doing right now.

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Patrick wrote: But apart from that one small point, it looks good, Nic.:thumb:

Which point?

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I believe Bentley's EQlized version can't lie, but if he does sing "wrong", it's merged with one so good.

But yes, it's definitively what is said in the live version.

And Jetstream's push updated as well.

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'I won't desert you'

Chant, this is one of those strange exceptions to the strange rules that the English language has to upset people who are trying to learn it!

Basically, as I am sure you know, an apostrophe (which is the name of the ' sign) is used when two words are combined to make on.

Can not = can't Do not = don't

The apostrophe is used instead of the missing letters.

Another example would be you are = you're (as in 'you're gone') so you’re right about that one!

I don’t see the word wan’t in the text, but I can see won’t. Is this what you mean?

Following the above rule 'will not' would be shortened to 'willn't'. It's not though, we use 'won't'. The apostrophe is still used though – for reasons I can't explain.

'Loose' means the opposite of tight and lose is the opposite of find. Fairly sure that 'lose my way' is correct here (Chant 2 – Japanese Sleeve Notes 0)

I’m sorry if I sound patronising in explaining this to you like that. I'm not trying to be at all. You obviously have a very good grasp of English, and I know how frustrating these silly rules can be even to a native! I hope I have made it a bit clearer, anyway.

Another obvious difference in the Japanese lyrics is the word 'hey' in the line 'How many times must I lose my way, Hey'. Even though it probably has no meaning, I’m sure it should be included in the lyrics, in order to correctly represent the way the song is performed. I like to think that he is singing the word 'eh' here, but that's just me…

I’m glad to have an ally in my campaign to have the second 'wrong' in the chorus recognised by the forum. Looking at the meaning of the song, the chorus would make no sense if it wasn’t there.

The song is about a man who has rejected his lover, because he thought that she was the 'wrong on' for him. Later, he realises that he has made a mistake and wants her back. He got it all wrong, she wasn’t the 'wrong one' after all.

I know I said I wouldn’t mention this again, but as it affects the meaning of the chorus in one of the best songs on the new album, I think I may be justified.

I can think of a possible explanation for the difference in the Japanese book. Perhaps you can help me with it.

The line 'you are not the wrong one' contains two negatives. In English, these negatives have the effect of cancelling one another out. NOT cancels out WRONG, and the line means 'you were the right one'. I seem to remember that some languages would not recognise two negatives to cancel one another out, they reinforce one another. The line would therefore mean 'You really were not the one'.

Perhaps someone has chosen to leave this word out of the Japanese booklet in order not to confuse English-speaking Japanese people.

It could also be a mistake. As we have seen, it's not the only one in this song!

Great work, Chant :thumb:

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Spotnick wrote:

Patrick wrote: But apart from that one small point, it looks good, Nic.:thumb:

Which point?

"to my window pane" versus "through my window pane" on track 6. Big, do you want to take this up?

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Well, anything with a window must be through not "to" anyways... I haven't listened to it and it makes sense already!

Wait a minute :skeptic: it's already through in my copy, so you think it should be "to" ?

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thanks Colin!:thumb:

you explained very clearly that i wish you were my english teacher 12 years ago! :p well yeah learning another language is never easy for me, and for most people in taiwan obviously. even though i can post here, i still don't understand a lot when two native speakers are chatting.. i'm lucky that i used to listened to a lot of brit-pop bands when i was learning english in the first place so i learned the usages and new words ( like two negatives make it positive- but actually it's the same in chinese it's just that people still don't get it when it's in a foreign language.) pretty quickly. but to be honest it's the american english taught in taiwan so though i've tried my best to learn british english on my own, i'm still more familiar with american accent at the moment... well, i should stop being off-topic now.

the "wan't" is in the line "We all wan't some kind of love" and you'll see it when you get the japanese version. when i heard the line "you were not the wrong one" i didn't consider if it makes sense or not at all, i just heard it and that's it!! besides after your explanation i like this idea even more so i'll stick to "you were not the wrong one" on my own version of WftSC :) [but i also knew that sometimes two negative can be negative in some infomal uses... like "i ain't got no money" means i really don't have any money and the famous stones' "i can't get no satisfaction" means he doesn't feel satisfied... mmmm english can be really confusing sometimes!] sorry i can't help you out on your assumption because in chinese double negative means positive as well and i don't know what is it about in japanese... maybe mayu can help us on this one? :)

i didn't realise that it was not an official lyrics (see i can use doble negative :p) and i decided to find out the differences based on nool's version here and highlight the differences from now on.

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chant wrote: the "wan't" is in the line "We all wan't some kind of love"

That's a mistake!

I'm not helping you with your English any more, it's already better than mine!

Only joking, I'm happy if I have helped!

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Spotnick wrote: Well, anything with a window must be through not "to" anyways... I haven't listened to it and it makes sense already!

Wait a minute :skeptic: it's already through in my copy, so you think it should be "to" ?

It was really Big who felt strongly on this point.

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Patrick wrote:

Spotnick wrote: Well, anything with a window must be through not "to" anyways... I haven't listened to it and it makes sense already!

Wait a minute :skeptic: it's already through in my copy, so you think it should be "to" ?

It was really Big who felt strongly on this point.

I have no recollection of this.

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BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Spotnick wrote: Well, anything with a window must be through not "to" anyways... I haven't listened to it and it makes sense already!

Wait a minute :skeptic: it's already through in my copy, so you think it should be "to" ?

It was really Big who felt strongly on this point.

I have no recollection of this.

Isn't that a quote from Gandalf in FOTR?

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1 take the lyrics of Krafty 2 go to http://babel.altavista.com/ 3 translate from English to Italian 4 then back from Italian to English

Some people raise themselves to the breach of the day have obtained to go to work before that she too much obtains the delayed sitting in an automobile and the drive down the road that is not the sense that must be But that one is that what fairies in order to earn to your daily wage that is the world kind that we are living within today we are not where wished to be and we are not that what wished to make

Just gives it that a new day (a new day) second probability gives to an other night (hardly an other night to me) has need of a second probability this time will obtain of right (this time to it will obtain it of right) Will say that time) I has obtained has them leaves you to know them (has obtained has leaves them to know) have.got to change idea you (have.got to change idea) never does not leave them to go

has had to watch the life the sense that it the oughta is watching stars under from a tree is an inner world here and a world outside here with that TV the too much entire narrow violence, wars and the killing down in a tube of the two-foot not taken care hardly Have.got but towards the outside the world are a beautiful place with mountains here, the lagos and the human race and this are where I wish to be and this is that what I wish to make

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Chant, for your request... if I need to translate words of the booklet into English.

We all wan't some kind of love

"everybody really want some kind of love" (the person who translated into Japanese just ignored the apostrophes. This means the person who wrote the English words on the booklet is not the same person.)

Cause you were not the one

"off course, it's not your fault." (She(Yukiko Kojima, who's known as a big NO fan) didn't translate just as it says, but I think this is what Bernard meant to say.)

I don't know if this helps you, but hey, at least the booklet is not always right, isn't it?

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alright, time for today's japanese version booklet lyrics:

KRAFTY

Some people get up at the break of day GOT TO go to work before it gets too late Sitting in a car and driving down the road That ain't the way it has to be But that's what you do to earn your daily wage That's the kind of world that WE LIVE IN today BUT IS IT where you wanna be? And IS IT what you wanna do?

Just give me one more day (one more day) Give me another night (just another night) I need a second chance (second chance) This time I'll get it right (This time I'll get it right)

I'll say it one last time (one last time) I've got TO let you know (I've got TO let you know) I've got to change your mind (CHANGE YOUR MIND)

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I'll never let you go

You GOT TO look at life the way it OUGHT TO be Looking at the stars from underneath a tree There's a world inside and a world out there With that tv you just don't care They GOT violence wars and KILLIN' too All shrunk down in a 2FT tube But out there the world is a beautiful place With mountains, lakes and the human race

And this is where I wanna be And this is what I wanna do

Just give me one more day (one more day) Give me another night (just another night) I need a second chance (second chance) This time I'll get it right (This time I'll get it right)

I'll say it one last time (one last time) I've got to let you know (I've got to let you know) I've got to change your mind (change your mind) I'll never let you go

Just give me one more chance (one more chance) Give me another night (just another night) With just one more day (one more day) Maybe we'll get it right (MAYBE WE'LL get it right)

I'll say it one last time (one last time) I've got to let you know (I've got to let you know) If I CAN change your mind (change your mind) I'll never let you go

ps. it seems like the all the "gotta" or "oughta" are "got to" and "ought to" here. and i can't really tell the difference between killing and killin', or anything ends with ing and in'

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Thanks again very much for your help and hard work, chant.

Personally, I prefer the printed lyrics to reflect what the singer actually says. So when BS says "gotta" I'd rather the printed lyrics said "gotta" as well.

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Just want to thank all the people who took the time to decipher all the lyrics. Your efforts are appreciated

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Far too many pages on this thread to read through for this query but does anyone know the offical line on Krafty

Strung down in a 2 foot tube

or Shrunk down in a 2 foot tube

he seems to vary this line on live performances maybe he is as :confused: as the rest of us :lol:

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Shrunk. Probably.

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NObabe wrote: Shrunk. Probably.

Althought "strung" works equally as well!

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SHRUNK I believe

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I'm hearing "shrunk" pretty clear so 'nother vote for that.

:music:

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no problem Patrick :thumb: actually i enjoy doing so since they are my favourite band and by typing all the lyrics and listen to them at the same time makes me feel i know the songs more. i really like to see it when you are discussing the lyrics, just too bad that i'm not a native speaker and i don't trust my own listening. thanks to all the people who putting their efforts too :)

i was trying to post one more song in order to celebrate that Maya got her visa.. :D but i couldn't make another post ( server too busy) after the first one yesterday. i tried several times then gave up.. so here are the two songs today :)

japanese booklet lyrics:

I Told You So

It's been ten long years since I've been home I've been waiting here with nowhere to go It's an occupation I don't like But it pays the rent and turns on the light

I told you so It has to be Cut loose and RUNAWAY with me We'll go out every night I'll be there by your side

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And WE ALL get high down the old west side

If it ain't the job and it ain't the place But I must stay for your pretty face It's a bad reaction I can't fix You CAUGHT me with those feline tricks

And I told you so It's a crazy world For a MIXED UP guy And a NO GOOD girl And I told you so It's a crazy world For a MIXED UP guy With a NO GOOD girl

I told you so It has to be Cut loose and RUNAWAY with me We'll go out every night I'll be there by your side And WE ALL get high down the old west side

Down the old west side Down the old west side Down the old west side Down the old west side

ps. runaway should be typo coz it's a noun.. and i think the hyphens in mixed up and no good make them adj., so there should be the hyphens.

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Morning Night And Day

One time didn't do it Two times didn't feel quite right I didn't know where i was going I just knew that i would be ALL RIGHT I woke up in a druken haze The sun shone through my window pane I said that I WOULD never do it again What kind of fool do you think i am

It happens It always seems to happen Morning night and day I just want some action Give me satisfaction Send me to my fate Morning night and day

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I had a good time late last night I didn't think it would ever end I walked home in a broad day light Couldn't get a cab at half past five One drink wouldn't do it Two drinks WERE far TO much I didn't know what i was doing I hit the floor in a pile of dust

It happens It always seems to happen Morning night and day I just want some action Give me satisfaction Send me to my fate Morning night and day

So if you think that it won't get you THINK again friend cause it's JUST not true In my case it was not my fault Other people made that call One time didn't do it Two times didn't feel quite right

It happens It always seems to happen No matter what i say Morning night and day I just want some action Need some satisfaction Before it gets TO late Send me to my fate Morning night and day

ps. two typos, "to much" and "to late"

pps. i think "two drinks were far too much" makes more sense coz it's one drink "wouldn't" do it, so it should be the past tense.. although i can't hear is it "are" or "were".. i just hear "two drinks far too much" :shrug:

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mayu wrote: Chant, for your request... if I need to translate words of the booklet into English.

We all wan't some kind of love

"everybody really want some kind of love" (the person who translated into Japanese just ignored the apostrophes. This means the person who wrote the English words on the booklet is not the same person.)

Cause you were not the one

"off course, it's not your fault." (She(Yukiko Kojima, who's known as a big NO fan) didn't translate just as it says, but I think this is what Bernard meant to say.)

I don't know if this helps you, but hey, at least the booklet is not always right, isn't it?

thanks mayu!! sorry i didn't reply you yesterday.

in fact i was wondering if there's such a usage "double negative" in japanese, but it's interesting to know the translation is not exactly the same!! sounds like it's the translater's own interpretation rather than the author's (bernard) original idea. it's always nice to see others interpretation but i don't think it's a good idea to do the translation... :shrug: anyways thank you very much for your translation and i should learn japanese soon! ( i said that when i bought PFD dvd few years ago already :p)

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2 songs in my honor? Thank you so much, Chant! :) :bow2:

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Bentley wrote: I'm hearing "shrunk" pretty clear so 'nother vote for that.

:music:

He sings STRUNG on the Canal+ performance!!

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Obviously he can't read. The hell with auto cue then!:wink:

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NObabe wrote: Obviously he can't read. The hell with auto cue then!:wink:

But it kinda makes sense, after all you can string things down a tube as its hollow and long!

Its an expression, like "strung out" i.e. they were "strung out" in a line.

Sounds like a washing line analogy :lol:

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DoN wrote:

Bentley wrote: I'm hearing "shrunk" pretty clear so 'nother vote for that.

:music:

He sings STRUNG on the Canal+ performance!!

Haven't really listened to the live version so I can't contest what he sang live but the recorded lyric is shrunk. Strung doesn't make any sense as it's a reference to watching televsion rather that enjoying the beauty of the world around you. Maybe he needs a bigger auto cue?

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No no no no no, you've got it all wrong!

It's not "Old West Side", it is OSI - Old Salfordians Institute, a sort of posh working men's club that Bernard has been frequenting for the last few years since he became part of the Nether Alderley jetset! :evil4:

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