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Here you go, this is the full quality video from Le Live de la semaine on Canal+ Decale in France.

It's 420 megs, so be prepared.

1 - Jetstream 2 - Hey Now What You Doing 3 - Waiting For The Sirens' Call 4 - Krafty 5 - Crystal 6 - Love Will Tear Us Apart

Thanks to Éric Martin for his submission, and let's now hope Digital Mike will do something else than posting 20 messages about trading this for one of his collection :lol:

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Don't you mean April? :evil4:

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Nick King wrote: Don't you mean April? :evil4:

It's been a bad week... :dead:

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We have to thank my brother (Patrice) :hat: who recorded the show on is Satellite hard drive recorder. But he's also a big fan of No since 1979.

We have to thank Canal+ for this show.:thumb:

My only job was to transfer-all on DVD Recorder, compress the video, cut by title and send it to Spotnick. Thanks also, to my boss who doesn't know I did part of this job at the office :nono:

Everytime I'll record that kind of video I'll do the same way.

Share Not Trade, that's my point of view.

Hope that other members in the world would do the same and try not to get money or anything in return. i'm not speaking about items like CD, DVD, VHS, 12", ...

I would be happy to watch any live-shows of all around the earth and this website is the best place.

Thanks to all (excuse my english)

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The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: "page cannot be displayed" :angry: :angry:

Yeah, it seems to be buggered... :rolleyes:

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Any chance of someone who did manage to snag it putting up a torrent?

Pretty please?

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Dirty Harry wrote: Any chance of someone who did manage to snag it putting up a torrent?

Pretty please?

It's back again now - be quick! ;)

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If the site goes down again, let me know, I'll put it on our new server.

You see, our media files are hosted graciously by Sam aka The Happy One on his website at www.new-order.net, it seems there were problems today.

Usually, it's pretty stable, so I doubt it will go down again.

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Nick King wrote:

Dirty Harry wrote: Any chance of someone who did manage to snag it putting up a torrent?

Pretty please?

It's back again now - be quick! ;)

Cheers for the tip. :)

Is it just me or does Bernard look A LOT like Cliff Richard these days? ;)

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merci vraiment :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Thanks Eric!

I can't really think of a better way to get ready (pun intended) for the show next week than to see them play songs I've never seen live.:music:

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Wonderful. Just shows how great WFTSC will be "live" this summer.

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Merci beaucoup! Thank you very much! CANAL+ used to be a very popular channel in the 80's-90's in France, but it getting down recently. That's good for them they could invite New Order!

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much appreciated, thanks.

one thing though....why WMV format? MPG would have been much more useful and easier to get onto DVD. the file sizes would have been similar too.

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Thanks to Eric for the files!!!

and I'm really impressed by the download speed.

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Very nice! Now Jetstream sounds overproduced on the album, because it sounds great live. Maybe they will cut out the flamboyant intro for the single just like they did with Crystal and get this more straightforward approach they did live.

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Thanks, Eric and Nic! It's nice. And by the way, for those who constantly complain about Sumner's whoooping, here he sings quite thoroughly. And the songs are performed very nicely.

Just one thing made me puzzled. Recently New Order's all TV performances, from February on, had a feeling that they are tired and not really excited about playing live. Especially Bernard. He looks exhausted and sad. Why is that? I hope he'd really be enjoying the upcoming concerts :)

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Hi Johnny james

I've got also the file in mpeg2 format / DVD quality with AC3 (384) Audio : recorded format. But it's like 2 gigas size all.

I could compress the DVD directory in smaller file : near DVD with 192 audio MPEG 48000 ... That's alreday done.

If Spotnick is ready to get that : OK For me.

I will not do DVDs for anyone, "désolé". :nono:

Bye

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Leo wrote: Very nice! Now Jetstream sounds overproduced on the album, because it sounds great live. Maybe they will cut out the flamboyant intro for the single just like they did with Crystal and get this more straightforward approach they did live.

I won't cut the French Intro : It sounds more "collector" for me. You'll know where it comes from.:nono: :cry:

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Thank you, Looks great, and better sound quality then the original mp3's we had. Now I just need to make a menu and put it on dvd.

I guess Regret wasn't broadcast :cry:

What a way to start off the final week before before the tour begins!

And the single version of Jetstream does have a new intro. Its more to the point.

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Thanks Going to watch it soon :clap: :clap:

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Got it, thanks!

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

What a great way to spend my Saturday morning coffee injection. The performances were just great, in my view.

I gotta wonder something..would these songs actually suffer without the taped backup singers? I dont mind taped kickdrums or sequencers or whatnot...but the voices kinda bug me...anyone agree or not?

cheers from north miami

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:love: :D Thx - very very very very much. God bless broadband and DSL.

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MARTIN Eric wrote:

Leo wrote: Very nice! Now Jetstream sounds overproduced on the album, because it sounds great live. Maybe they will cut out the flamboyant intro for the single just like they did with Crystal and get this more straightforward approach they did live.

I won't cut the French Intro : It sounds more "collector" for me. You'll know where it comes from.:nono: :cry:

I meant that the album intro - the whole song really - of Jetstream is lame compared to the live version, which I liked very much.

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MARTIN Eric wrote: Hi Johnny james

I've got also the file in mpeg2 format / DVD quality with AC3 (384) Audio : recorded format. But it's like 2 gigas size all.

I could compress the DVD directory in smaller file : near DVD with 192 audio MPEG 48000 ... That's alreday done.

If Spotnick is ready to get that : OK For me.

I will not do DVDs for anyone, "désolé". :nono:

Bye

Keep it coming!

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i have 3 of the smaller-sized videos from last week.... is there this full set anywhere of the smaller size??? they were 320x240 and about 12mb each....

thank you guys, by the way, this is really great stuff! and like someone else said, is a great teaser for the live show...

i can't wait for nyc....

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john dougherty wrote: THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

What a great way to spend my Saturday morning coffee injection. The performances were just great, in my view.

I gotta wonder something..would these songs actually suffer without the taped backup singers? I dont mind taped kickdrums or sequencers or whatnot...but the voices kinda bug me...anyone agree or not?

cheers from north miami

After a few concerts Bernard sings like a bird and voice on tape is not necessary anymore...

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:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: THANK YOU! What a wonderful performance, especially by Phil and Hooky, though I highly suspect Phil is miming the most of the keyboards?! :eek: It's true that something looks wrong between them in this video, they don't look as happy as in the videos we've seen from 1998-2002, even Hoooky looks bored. Barney tries to do his best with his whoops but seems not entirely convinced. It's a pity because it's overall a great live set, I just hope it was a matter of that night that made them look so bored, alarmingly more similar to what we've seen from the Republic year than from the Get Ready triumphs. I just don't wanna them to split before the next album! Those who talked to them after the show, what did you notice about how they felt? Did they look happy or bored?

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thanks for the show!

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: THANK YOU! What a wonderful performance, especially by Phil and Hooky, though I highly suspect Phil is miming the most of the keyboards?! :eek: It's true that something looks wrong between them in this video, they don't look as happy as in the videos we've seen from 1998-2002, even Hoooky looks bored. Barney tries to do his best with his whoops but seems not entirely convinced. It's a pity because it's overall a great live set, I just hope it was a matter of that night that made them look so bored, alarmingly more similar to what we've seen from the Republic year than from the Get Ready triumphs. I just don't wanna them to split before the next album! Those who talked to them after the show, what did you notice about how they felt? Did they look happy or bored?

Funny...I kind of thought that Barney was nicer and in a relaxed mood...hooky was wandering about and in general I thought that they looked pretty comfortable...performing live at high energy in a studio is probably not the easiest thing to do.

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I really would like to see Johnny Marr there, but Phil does a good job. They are again dressed in black, I like that.

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john dougherty wrote:

I gotta wonder something..would these songs actually suffer without the taped backup singers? I dont mind taped kickdrums or sequencers or whatnot...but the voices kinda bug me...anyone agree or not?

Yes, I think the taped voices suck. It makes the performance seem to be rather half-playback than live. I would prefer if they just left out the backing vocals, or if Gillian did them... :D

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good stuff yeah.cheers:clap:

All the songs were performed quite accomplished.Krafty and WFTSC in particular were great. But does Barney only own one set of clothes these days.The Black top and jeans combo?. A tv studio is probably not the most energising of places to perform but they were pretty good.Wish i was goin to Glastonbury because that should reallt rock as long as Barney doesn`t get stage fright in front of the masses.

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Thanks, very nice...

Barney (GermanOrder)

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I just made the dvd and its pretty good, there are still some pixles, but its good enough.

I recommend overlapping (insert a transition) inbetween each song, so you dont get a pause between each song. I used one that looks like you just turned a page and the sound and picture are perfect!

Looks great on my 57' widescreen tv :thumb:

I think Barney is wearing the same cloths he wore at the Vancouver concert. :nod:

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Turn Jim wrote: I just made the dvd and its pretty good, there are still some pixles, but its good enough.

I recommend overlapping (insert a transition) inbetween each song, so you dont get a pause between each song. I used one that looks like you just turned a page and the sound and picture are perfect!

Looks great on my 57' widescreen tv :thumb:

I think Barney is wearing the same cloths he wore at the Vancouver concert. :nod:

They are all wearing black, and they did too on the TOTP performance. I think it is the eighties look. A new start from the beginning.

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My DVD came out great though there seems to be a tiny lag between audio and video. Observations:

  • I'd rather have a stripped down song live than a full production with taped vocals (listen to the transition from verse to chorus on WFTSC)
  • Barney can get as far out of tune as Ian Brown sometimes
  • Barney's gone from whoops to whistles
  • They still kick ass
  • I'm even more pumped for Chicago

Thanks again, Nic.

Colin

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thx very much for the files. Just a little remark. It seems to me if the sound is playing a little faster than the video. Anyone noticed this or am i the only one?

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Nanne a.k.a. SkullCrusher wrote: It seems to me if the sound is playing a little faster than the video. Anyone noticed this or am i the only one?

yes

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Not on my PC Encoded WMV ver 9 Audio VBR : It can cause this

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Great performance except for the fuckin Autocue.I m getting a bit fed up now of watching Barney constantly look at the Autocue.It makes it seem like they are rehearsing a song for the first time and not actually enjoying playing the song(s).Drugs have quite clearly addled his brain.It just not cool.

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Stockholm Monster wrote: Great performance except for the fuckin Autocue.I m getting a bit fed up now of watching Barney constantly look at the Autocue.It makes it seem like they are rehearsing a song for the first time and not actually enjoying playing the song(s).Drugs have quite clearly addled his brain.It just not cool.

Isn't it odd? He needs an autocue for lyrics, but doesn't need one for music (chords etc.). So it applies only to the verbal memory... hm... Anyway it DOES NOT bother me in no way. Absolutely fine with me.:smoking:

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Thanks a lot!:) :thumb:

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Many thanks on the excellent job on this, :clap: everything was in sync for me. Cannot wait for this coming weekend.

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Thanks! A million thanks for Eric and Spotnick for getting that online!

That was great! They seemed fairly relaxed and comfortable to me. My girlfriend noticed that they don't show Hooky much - they focused on him the least. Phil is shown alot. i guess it's a tell-tale sign that the French producer doesn't really know New Order and how Hooky's bass is a big part of it. He probably just assumed the 2 guitar players are the most important.

I just can't wait for the Chicago show - I'm way stoked!

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it seems that there is a problem to download numbers 2HNWYP 5CRYSTAL AND 6LWTUA. thanks anyway - great work! i hope to see them in greece and send to all of you thei show! take care all!:)

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Nice one:thumb:

I presume I'm not the only one who sees a 1/4 - 1/2 second gap between the sound & vision? - reminds me of the old LWTUA video:D

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: THANK YOU! What a wonderful performance, especially by Phil and Hooky, though I highly suspect Phil is miming the most of the keyboards?! :eek:

haha, i'm with you there, mate. i'm pretty sure he was miming just about all of the keyboards except during LWTUA. also on a couple of occasions, with the audio/video lag, i can't tell if steve is actually hitting the cymbals, or if he's hitting them after the sequencer has already played the cymbal hits. :scratch:

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MARTIN Eric wrote: Not on my PC Encoded WMV ver 9 Audio VBR : It can cause this

Hi all well I am also getting a delay between audio and video. Tried it on a few different PCs some quite high spec. Not wishing to moan too much though it's really great to see the performances but would be nice for it to be in sync.

So what can cause this and how do I fix it?

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote:

Those who talked to them after the show, what did you notice about how they felt? Did they look happy or bored?

First of all, this show was done to promote the new album in France. So it's not as cool as a concert. I don't think they were bored but concentrated. But I saw them like they usualy are: Barney with his little stupid dances, whipping. Hooky walking all around the studio, and playing just in front of us. :thumb: Steven concentrated on his drums. I saw him smiling only one time. Barney talked to the audience between the songs and was joking with his guitar problems: "who want this guitar ?" :abovelol: "me, me, me!!!" Hooky may be a bit tired (He just came from 3 days DJing in Greece and the day after the show he should be in Florida joining Arthur Baker for DJing in Mansion Night Club). :nuts:

After the show, Barney was the first out. He was pressed by his driver (he had to took a train back to UK) but took the time for some pictures and some autographs anyway. :thumb: Barney gone, we talked a lot with Andy Robinson about future live shows, setlists (EGG has a great chance to be played :thumb: ), websites (he well knows NOOL and worldinmotion)... Stephen, followed by Phil came a bit later. Phil looks the happier and Stephen the more tired (playing drums is like a sport! :dead: ) Finaly, Hooky was the last out and spend a lot of time with us. Nicolas (who covered 586) talked about the community tribute.

Just look at the pictures we took to have an idea :wink:

pictures

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Hey lonely, please tell me your not the geeky guy in white hopping & clapping in the front row of the concert. :evil4: Just joking!

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charles wrote: haha, i'm with you there, mate. i'm pretty sure he was miming just about all of the keyboards except during LWTUA. also on a couple of occasions, with the audio/video lag, i can't tell if steve is actually hitting the cymbals, or if he's hitting them after the sequencer has already played the cymbal hits. :scratch:

*Yeah, with Steve, or anyone else, it could be just some audio/video lag, the problem with Phil is I'm actually sure he NEVER moves the fingers were they would be supposed to go to play those notes. I've played keyboards since 1978 (longer than Gillian ;) ) and though never becoming the new fookin Mozart and having moved to bass and played the computer rather than the piano keyboard in the recent years I still can tell that those fingers would move differently if he actually made those chords and melodies, even if there was a lot of prerecorded stuff, the way his hand appears is almost nowhere related to the music, so yes, I'm 99.99% sure he was miming, though the track being played is not, of course, that from the record, but a different track recorded to sound credibly live... Naughty naughty Phil! :nono: A damn great guitarist, but maybe they should add another member to take care of the keyboards? It was better to see Gillian play two notes with one finger than Phil faking a chord progression... Also, next time they, erm, "play" in a TV studio they should instruct the camera man to not show Phil's hands, it would be enough to see him from the front of the stage, nobody would wonder if he's actually playing, the fact Phil's hands are shown so often just says the director of the show knew nothing about music...

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I'm tired of that autocue. If it could really help I wouldnt matter so much, but it actually confuses the singer (see LWTUA).

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In A Lonely Place wrote:

First of all, this show was done to promote the new album in France. So it's not as cool as a concert. I don't think they were bored but concentrated.

*Uhm, yeah, I think you're right, it was just wrong from me to compare a TV show (with various and different takes in a studio) to a proper live concert.

Barney talked to the audience between the songs and was joking with his guitar problems: "who want this guitar ?" :abovelol: "me, me, me!!!"

*The fact he joked is a relief. After all they might just look concentrated and maybe a bit tired, rather than bored or even annoyed...

After the show, Barney was the first out. He was pressed by his driver (he had to took a train back to UK) but took the time for some pictures and some autographs anyway. :thumb:

*A train?! :eek: I thought he'd have taken a J - E - T ??! :laugh: Anyway thanks for your reply, it's great to learn it's likely I had no real reason to worry about...

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Turn Jim wrote: Hey lonely, please tell me your not the geeky guy in white hopping & clapping in the front row of the concert. :evil4: Just joking!

No, no :D My friends and I were on the last row. With this high position, we were not embarrassed with the cameras in front of the audience.

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So how do i save the footage onto my hard drive?.Sorry, i`m clueless.But i do know how to download and save from Soulseek:)

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Stockholm Monster wrote: So how do i save the footage onto my hard drive?.Sorry, i`m clueless.But i do know how to download and save from Soulseek:)

Right click on the links and use "Save target as"...

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Spotnick wrote:

Stockholm Monster wrote: So how do i save the footage onto my hard drive?.Sorry, i`m clueless.But i do know how to download and save from Soulseek:)

Right click on the links and use "Save target as"...

Thanks Spotnick.I`ll try that.

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Mick, please stop with the blatant lies.

The audio is out of sync with the video. I play keyboards and guitar and they are CLEARLY playing the songs live. Just pop the file in your favorite video editor and slip the audio about 400ms and you get them back in sync....

And it is just not credible to think that ALL OF A SUDDEN, after years of denouncing folks who mime, that New Order would do it...

And Cunningham IS a keyboardist, just check out 511 or 316... I also read he helps compose keyboard parts.

So, please, end the total bullsh*t insinuations.

(do you honestly think they spent hours prerecording versions of the new lp and their old material JUST so they could come out and fake it live? that would take quite a lot of time and energy!)

I thought you were joking at first.... jeez.... (the only reason I am upset about this is cause new order have a certain credibility, and new fans checking these forums may actually believe your unanswered accusations and think new order is just one step from britney spears et al....)

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I particularly liked the theory that they would mime to a track that wasn't the record, but something pre-recorded to make it sound live... :rolleyes:

That ranks right up there with Dick Lantern's "Barney ego" statement.

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Like they did for the Commonwealth Games, only the vocals were live apparently.

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i'm going to stick with my guns and back up mick on his stance.

watch closely as phil plays the intros to jetstream, crystal, and the bridge during krafty. sure, he played quite a few live keyboard parts during in the 511 dvd, but with all of the sequencing the band relies on now, i wouldn't be surprised if he just decided to say "fook it" and now lets the computers do the work so he can concentrate on his guitar playing.

i'm still a bit curious as to whether steve is miming or not.

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Tarbox23 wrote: Mick, please stop with the blatant lies.

*No lies, mate. I just see his fingers NOT going were they're supposed to go, out of sync or not... It's not that they move earlier or later than the sound, they just DO NOT EVER move the way they should. Unless he has set the keyboard so he can press one key and then the others follow automatically, but that's not different than pressing a "play" button. Sometimes that trick is required for the most difficult stuff, like bits of Blue Monday and Perfect Kiss, but those missing movements in the songs of the show would have been rather simple... I just don't see what I hear.

And it is just not credible to think that ALL OF A SUDDEN, after years of denouncing folks who mime, that New Order would do it...

*All of a sudden my arse. They've been totally miming on Top Of The Pops for 12 years now, haven't you ever heard? ;)

And Cunningham IS a keyboardist, just check out 511 or 316... I also read he helps compose keyboard parts.

*Absolutely yes, he can play keyboards and I'm sure he does it in proper concerts. But he didn't at that show.

do you honestly think they spent hours prerecording versions of the new lp and their old material JUST so they could come out and fake it live? that would take quite a lot of time and energy!

*Oh no, if you see he's just usually playing the guitar (except LWTUA and Jetstream, speaking of which, it would be funny if the keyboard would re-play the chords Phil had just "played" while he plays guitar in the second part). The VERY FEW TIMES he gets to the keyboard are just for a couple of chords and notes here and there (the most of the keyboard stuff is obviously a track in the mix as it's been for years, even live as it would be totally impossible to play them live, especially if you have to play guitar too). I don't think they spent a lot of time recording live those few bits so they could mix them with the usual base in the TV studio.

I thought you were joking at first.... jeez.... (the only reason I am upset about this is cause new order have a certain credibility, and new fans checking these forums may actually believe your unanswered accusations and think new order is just one step from britney spears et al....)

*There's still an abyss to Britney Spears, Tarbox. It's not things like these that matter now (unless you're a teenage holier-than-thou pseudo-punk). It's all about the music. And Phil does such a great performance on guitar we can forgive those few mimed bits on the keyboard. I just don't really care, it was just surprising to see but after all it doesn't matter, that doesn't make the band any better or worse. They DID play live, the four of them. I just can see the keyboard part was mimed, for whatever reason, I'm sure there is one. Maybe those keyboards would have required more equipment, or whatever, they weren't just on a true stage, and they were doing multiple takes, so I just guess they wanted to save time with the keyboard. Nothing wrong with it, it's alright.

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Hmm, looking again at Crystal, I hear the keyboards earlier than Phil is arriving at the keyboard...

But it is a great concert, and I can´t stand missing notes at the keyboard so I think it is a good decision.

Now we can download it and listen to it without waiting at that moment that things went wrong - except the sologuitar thing of Bernard.

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Cest tres Magnifique mon cher francais...

xxx

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for a band with as much experience as New Order, it should be humiliating for them to rely so heavily on pre-recorded material for their live shows. why can't they hire a keyboard player for the shows? they pay backup singers so a keyboardist should be on the list as well. it really does piss me off that a band of newOrder's stature will cheat their fans out of a real experience because they are too cheap to hire a keyboard player. not being able to pull out a classic because of programming issues is also a fucking joke coming from a band the popularised the rock with synths/sequencers genre. i've seen bands with way less experience be able to pull off amazing stuff with samplers/synths/guitars and drums. it's pure laziness on their part and it's insulting to the fans.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: for a band with as much experience as New Order, it should be humiliating for them to rely so heavily on pre-recorded material for their live shows. why can't they hire a keyboard player for the shows? they pay backup singers so a keyboardist should be on the list as well. it really does piss me off that a band of newOrder's stature will cheat their fans out of a real experience because they are too cheap to hire a keyboard player. not being able to pull out a classic because of programming issues is also a fucking joke coming from a band the popularised the rock with synths/sequencers genre. i've seen bands with way less experience be able to pull off amazing stuff with samplers/synths/guitars and drums. it's pure laziness on their part and it's insulting to the fans.

I can only hope the gig is more to your liking!

Enjoy!

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Watching the videos another time, I might admit I'm not sure Phil mimed Love Will Tear Us Apart. This is my theory: first they didn't want to set up all the equipment which was required, and more importantly Phil would have found annoying playing seriously the keyboards with the guitar on his side, and this can be understood as it must not be simple to exactly play the piano intro to Jetstream with one arm bearing the weighth of the guitar. BUT on LWTUA he doesn't play guitar, he just can play the keyboard, and it's a very simple keyboard too, the equipment and the melody. So I guess he really played that song, also I can't spot any true moment when it's evident he's not playing any note (while it's pretty clear, as said, on Jetstream and Crystal). BTW they don't usually bring backing vocalists either. With Krafty we have also the funny sight of Barney's voice coming both live and recorded (in the chorus). I've alwys thought he should have left those backing vocals to Hooky...

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Thanks Eric & Spotnick! :thumb:

Now, let's hope certain predictable NOOLers have burned this to DVD. ;)

In case I have something to trade someday....

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Judging by this performance they should mime more not less :nonono:

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Mick, I am going to go back and retract my mean comment about you.... because...

I think it DOES look like Phil is miming the keyboard on the Kimmel show video....

which pisses me off.

but then again, the Kimmel show was a disaster on video. Sounds from the fans that being there was a different story, but the tv version is craptacular. But that is for another thread...

anyway, I am questioning now my prior post and do agree that at least Phil could be miming keys... which is sad.

let us check the kimmel videotape...

sickened, -mat

p.s. did gillian ever mime keys? now i wonder...

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I thought that overall, that was a great live performance. I have a good set of speakers with a bass drive hooked up to my computer and I was very pleased. Especially after I waited up late to see that debacle on that Kimmel Show where they only showed 1 1/2 songs out of six or so.

As for the earlier comments re: live vs. recorded. They are using a backing track for most songs which has pre-recorded material. That includes vocal, guitar dub, lower bass, drums and keyboard. New Order play on top of that to give that layered sound we are used to.

Overall, I give that a 9/10. Best I have seen in some time.

The title track to the recent album (WFTSC) is #$%^%&&** great.

Cosmo

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that is sadly what i began to realize, cosmo...

and with that, there goes all artistic credibility...

i may have to stop being a new order fan...

after the nyc show of course.

(for all you new folks, at one point, new order refused to play tapes or any of that bullshit live.... )

i guess they have sold out....

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Well, Tarbox,

I agreed with some of your earlier statements. . .

And I would agree with you that it would be better if they played totally LIVE. I mean - $%&*%$$ is STEVE undervalued or WHAT ? Look at him on LWTUA ? I'm a singer/guitarist/drummer and SH*T, give this guy some latitude. He is Sooooo Gooood.

But, for a live sound, I was very impressed. Esp. on WFTCS. That was great. It is their best song since I don't know. . .Atmosphere.

Cosmo

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yeah, I agree... WFTSC (the song) blows away 99% of what most indie bands are putting out these days... it is just basic indie rock, stripped down, soulful, no tricks, sounds almost like something early Sonic Youth or the Gobetweens or any local college garage band would have died to come up with...

I love the techie dance side of New Order, but am continually fascinated that they can put out classic indie rock songs that COULD be played in someone's garage...

and, hell yeah, Morris is the pulse and key, the true representative of the band.... "human drum machine" that never fails... everyone takes him for granted. I think the best new order songs are the ones he helped compose...

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I'm glad you're realising what happened in France... what happened on the Kimmel show was pretty similar. Anyway I wouldn't be saddened at all, it's just TV appearances, music biz promotion, it's already good they can do that, and they did it brilliantly. They all play stuff, nobody fakes everything, it's just they need the aid of prerecorded tracks for their whole sound. It's a pretty complex sound, you know. They aren't Kaiser Chief or those Oasis gibbons. They don't do primitive music, they make evolved stuff and to set the whole thing up for a live performance you need more space and time than what they get in a stupid TV studio. These TV shows were alright and the concerts will be even better, no reason to question your being a New Order fan, unless you're some kinda old fashioned indie purist, but I don't think you ever said The Housemartins were the only true musicians at the age of Acid House... ;)

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i would like to know how can i get this show you are talking about? i guess i didn't got in time to download it, so.... is there's a way a can download it now ? thanks in advance

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Spotnick the links don't work :(

Can you please post a mirror please? :(

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Isamu wrote: Spotnick the links don't work :(

Can you please post a mirror please? :(

Um, these links were only available for a week mate. Is your intention to get them put up again? If so, i fully support it since i only have dial-up and it takes forever to download videos.

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Yeah, I hope they get put up again. Spotnick can you please convince the host to upload these again please? :(

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Tarbox23 wrote: yeah, I agree... WFTSC (the song) blows away 99% of what most indie bands are putting out these days... it is just basic indie rock, stripped down, soulful, no tricks, sounds almost like something early Sonic Youth or the Gobetweens Go-Betweens` "Cattle and Cane" in my all time top 10 songs. Some similarity in feel to WFTSC in my ears, anyway.:music:

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Buffer Low wrote:

Isamu wrote: Spotnick the links don't work :(

Can you please post a mirror please? :(

Um, these links were only available for a week mate. Is your intention to get them put up again? If so, i fully support it since i only have dial-up and it takes forever to download videos.

i would love to have the link again, too. my hard drive failed and i lost everything incl these files. i'd love the chance to get them back.

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