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I'm not kidding Mick, I can assure you that there was a reminder of what to say between the songs on the teleprompter.

Not the full things, but notes to remember to say that joke here and there...

You have to remember, NYC was filmed, so maybe that was only for NYC... Bernard is a perfectionnist and might wanted everything to be perfect so he put himself notes to be sure he don't forget.

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote: Just makes sense, so I wasn't so gullible when deciding to believe you... ;)

Whatever gullible means.. I guess... :confused2:

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gul·li·ble P Pronunciation Key (gl-bl) adj. Easily deceived or duped.

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gul·li·ble P Pronunciation Key (gl-bl) adj. Easily deceived or duped.

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WenOrder wrote: gul·li·ble P Pronunciation Key (gl-bl) adj. Easily deceived or duped.

Oh, it's back!

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Now I believe Nic (though I know Photoshop when I see it). Here's Razorlight's set list from Coachella:

See the notes to remind Bjorn what to talk about between songs?

Colin

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We can believe Nick, but what about Michael? Of course I still don't believe in the whoops and kicks.

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No - 100% Photoshop, but well executed.

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Can some one please explain to me what this "Photo Shop" is?

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It's between the party store and the butcher's shop.

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CCRGMac wrote: Now I believe Nic (though I know Photoshop when I see it). Here's Razorlight's set list from Coachella:

See the notes to remind Bjorn what to talk about between songs?

Colin

Well, at least THEY don't mind playing Leave Me Alone... :rolleyes:

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:abovelol: Nicely spotted! You'd barely recognize their version though - different words, different rhythm and a different tune...

Colin

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CCRGMac wrote: Now I believe Nic (though I know Photoshop when I see it). Here's Razorlight's set list from Coachella: See the notes to remind Bjorn what to talk about between songs?

* :eek: I don't think Bjorn is excused as Barney, he's not near 50! They could form a new duet, after Electronic, here's... ... Barn'n'Bjorn! ;)

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Server Error in "/" Application wrote: We can believe Nick, but what about Michael? Of course I still don't believe in the whoops and kicks.

*My God, Server, of course I knew that was a joke!!! :laugh: My post was a laugh to the Photoshop image (which of fookin course I never believed) and a comment to Nic's post (which I half believed). :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Can you imagine Barney PLANNING his whoops???!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Can you imagine Barney PLANNING his whoops???!!

Of course... He's a perfectionist - you remember? :evil4:

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In all fairness to Bernard, he's got to get up in front of a crowd and "entertain" them for the entire set.

I'm a law student, which sometimes entails speaking to an audience (judges). I prepare notes with bulleted talking points to remind me of the points I want to make. If I didn't do that, I'd forget half the stuff I want to say.

(On the other hand, considering Bernard and I are the same age, maybe it is age... :evil4: )

That's all the "notes" on the autocue are doing-- reminding Bernard of where they are in the set, what he wants to say, etc.

As for the lyrics... :shrug:

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote:

Can you imagine Barney PLANNING his whoops???!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Rehearsal scene:

(bass, guitar, drums come to a grinding halt...)

Barney: I don't know, guys, it's missing something...

Peter: What's missing?

(Ghost of Tony Wilson: "A certain je ne sais quoi")

Barney: I don't know what...

(Peter and Stephen exchange glances)

Barney: What do you think if I put in a "whoop" right at this point, where Peter slings his bass way down low...?

Peter: W...

Barney: Fine, its agreed then....

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...[and so Bernard clicks the "Save" icon on the computer programming the autocue updating the lyrics with the whoop] :rofl:

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Maybe the whoops are actually sampled :p

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Perhaps the first "Whoop" was born when Barney hurt his foot onstage for the first time (back in 1980something). He saw that people liked it and didn't recognize that it was a scream in pain - so he adapted it for future gigs...:evil4:

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Spotnick wrote: Maybe the whoops are actually sampled :p

*You mean he MIMES his whoops???!! :eek:

:laugh:

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Bere wrote: Perhaps the first "Whoop" was born when Barney hurt his foot onstage for the first time (back in 1980something). He saw that people liked it and didn't recognize that it was a scream in pain - so he adapted it for future gigs...:evil4:

The first whoops where indeed born in the early days, but they were quite different from the euphoric whoops of today. Back at the time they were furious "whoooooooooop!"s, but also "whoooooaaargh!"s and other variations, they can be heard in many early live performances (EGG, In A Lonely Place, many others) and were a mix of post punk attitude, loads of drugs, frustration, loads of alcohol, confrontational blank stares and much more loads of drugs. I loved the proto-whoops... then they gradually evolved with the music of the band, into these contemporary whoops. I still like them. A "barking" extreme variation of the whoop ("whoof whoof") can be seen on the brand new DVD release by LTM, Umbrellas In The Sun, where we have New Order's best performance ever, Everything's Gone Green at the Ancienne Belgique in Brussels. Available at http://www.sisterray.co.uk, just ordered mine. Hey, maybe we should start a "Whoopology" forum from which develop a "Whoopology" section of the site... ;)

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I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential

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At the NY show, as I was singing along, I found myself whooping at random points where I found it appropriate. At times, Barney and I ended up whooping at the same time! Whoop!:laugh:

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Delilah wrote: "I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential"

*Yeah, those were exciting days, they were just experimenting with sequencers AND whoops, they were evolving through an innovative direction... Pleased to meet you, it seems you'll do wonders on the Whoopology forum! ;) And well done to Church too! :thumb: (gonna whoop like you in Turin)

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delilah wrote: I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential

Snowball-induced, allegedly!

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oldmonkey wrote:

delilah wrote: I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential

Snowball-induced, allegedly!

I thought that was the Temptation whoop...

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote:

Bere wrote: Perhaps the first "Whoop" was born when Barney hurt his foot onstage for the first time (back in 1980something). He saw that people liked it and didn't recognize that it was a scream in pain - so he adapted it for future gigs...:evil4:

The first whoops where indeed born in the early days, but they were quite different from the euphoric whoops of today. Back at the time they were furious "whoooooooooop!"s, but also "whoooooaaargh!"s and other variations, they can be heard in many early live performances (EGG, In A Lonely Place, many others) and were a mix of post punk attitude, loads of drugs, frustration, loads of alcohol, confrontational blank stares and much more loads of drugs. I loved the proto-whoops... then they gradually evolved with the music of the band, into these contemporary whoops. I still like them. A "barking" extreme variation of the whoop ("whoof whoof") can be seen on the brand new DVD release by LTM, Umbrellas In The Sun, where we have New Order's best performance ever, Everything's Gone Green at the Ancienne Belgique in Brussels. Available at http://www.sisterray.co.uk, just ordered mine. Hey, maybe we should start a "Whoopology" forum from which develop a "Whoopology" section of the site... ;)

Liking your analysis...I always thought the whoop was an alternative/industrial/post-punk satire on 80s Thatcherism, but perhaps I am talking out of my arse

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*PARP*

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