PSB and NO

It worked with Electronic, why not New order?

I think a collaboration on one wont hurt.

What do you think?

Didn't PSB produce or remix one of the New Order tracks?

I'm sorry, but I can't stand the PSB. the stuff that I heard from electronic made me cringe, I never listen to disappointed, and I always skip that other track he's on. I just don't like 'em, rubs me the wrong way musically you could say. So please, w/e NO do, no PSB. thats just my opinion, if anyone, work with Johnny Marr. :D

I'm a pretty big PSB fan, but I wouldn't want to see New Order work with them either.

would you feel any different vise-versa (No collaberating with PSB stuff)?

the pet shop boys remixing a new order track should be ok. as much as i like the pet shop boys, i wouldnt want to hear neil tennants voice on a new order track, especially over peters bass. it'll sound weird

Wait till Mike reads this.

I went for 'Yes, on one song'

If Gillian can't be around - those two might make up one decent woman on keyboards between them

Would it add anything to the product? If not, then no.

In the history of bad ideas, this would really be a very bad idea. What next: Erasure as collaborators? CTB

Why bother? We already got "Guilt is a Useless Gay Disco Song" on the new album.

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Why bother? We already got "Guilt is a Useless Gay Disco Song" on the new album.

And what is so wrong with gay disco?

PSB and NO. No thanks.

I second doing something with Johnny Marr would be more interesting.

Jethro wrote: PSB and NO. No thanks.

I second doing something with Johnny Marr would be more interesting.

Haha, Johnny marr is like the 3rd PSB with Release and parts of Behaviour.

This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Why bother? We already got "Guilt is a Useless Gay Disco Song" on the new album.

And what is so wrong with gay disco?

Oh, nothing...but some New Order threatens to go too far into PSB territory, which I must be in a specific mood to listen to.

I do not like the term "Gay" music. As i stated on PSB forum. Its disco. So you mean Happy disco

Don't get me started.

damn does your avatar make my stomach turn. i suggest you change the avatar and join the petition to shut down the bonsai kittens website

afr0puff wrote: Didn't PSB produce or remix one of the New Order tracks?

Nope - there are 2 NO tracks that have been mislabelled as PSB remixes; Regret (New Order mix) and True Faith (Shep Pettibone remix) somehow end up with PSB tagged on to the name on mp3s, but they aren't anything to do with PSB. I think Pettibone is/was a PSB producer/remixer, but that's about it as far as I know. CTB

kamar wrote: damn does your avatar make my stomach turn. i suggest you change the avatar and join the petition to shut down the bonsai kittens website

pansy! go back to your cure forum.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

kamar wrote: damn does your avatar make my stomach turn. i suggest you change the avatar and join the petition to shut down the bonsai kittens website

pansy! go back to your cure forum.

hahaha, your avatar reminds me of Weird Al's Spy Hard video where Al's head explode and all the blood spill all over.

Fuck, I hope not, PSB's are absolute SHITE

funny people say that. 28 000 000 sold. So they sold that many shite

Richard Latanville wrote: funny people say that. 28 000 000 sold. So they sold that many shite

So popularity equals quality, eh? Interesting logic

Correct it is a lot of SHITE

Richard Latanville wrote: funny people say that. 28 000 000 sold. So they sold that many shite

Just look at what's popular these days, ie at the top of the charts, and tell me if it aint shite.

Sorry, popularity doesn't usually equate to quality.

I love PSB, NO And Erasure all the same. But I am an even bigger Depeche Mode fan. How can you people feel so vastly different about each band? They are from the same era and they are all still making awesome music! They all have new albums either out or on the way!

I just love electronic music from the 80's and thee above bands do it the best.

Just my opinion.

Raj Bhurjee wrote: I love PSB, NO And Erasure all the same. But I am an even bigger Depeche Mode fan. How can you people feel so vastly different about each band? They are from the same era and they are all still making awesome music! They all have new albums either out or on the way!

I just love electronic music from the 80's and thee above bands do it the best.

Just my opinion.

You don't know what you've just started.

I would love to hear West End Girls with Hooky's bass in it! The version of RENT which they did with Suede was brilliant. Also want to hear any New Order's song with some keyboards or programming by Chris Lowe! I prefer the back vocals on Jetstream by Neil anyway!

I enjoy both bands but NO.Keep them WELL apart please.

Depends entirely on which side of the PSB's. PSB's have two totally conflicting styles of music - cheesy disco like A Different Point Of View, New York City Boy, Go West - in fact, all their highly charting music; and some much darker, more depressing tracks that could be mid-1980's New Order. Tennant even plays guitar on some tracks...

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Why bother? We already got "Guilt is a Useless Gay Disco Song" on the new album.

I´m curious what Neil Tennant thinks of GIAUE. I think the music he appreciates. The lyrics... Onfortunately the Q&A section is down on the PSB site.

good idea for them to remix, but Neil T's voice is alittle hard to listen to and may would ruin the song.

Palani wrote: good idea for them to remix, but Neil T's voice is alittle hard to listen to and may would ruin the song.

Neil's old voice might, but he has a mature vox, from sex and he sounds alot better. Have you heard Flamboyant?

fuck no!! why should they?

Definite NO

bad, bad, bad idea. What do you think PSB could add to New Order???? Don't get me wrong, i don't hate PSB, some of their old records were great (behaviour, for example) but they are now forever gone. They lost their stylish touch, and turn for a more "gay friendly" audience. Getting Away With It was a cool collaboration, Patience of a Saint was like a darker PSB, and Disappointed was definitely a PSB track. So please, Neil, Chris stay away!

PSB can add tonnes to New order. Wasnt for Neil, electronic wouldnt fair as well.

Richard Latanville wrote: PSB can add tonnes to New order. Wasnt for Neil, electronic wouldnt fair as well.

Look that was only one album, and only 3 or so songs.

Also, Neil doesnt need the autocue machine like yours truly. They dont fall on telepromters during gigs. They can collaborate with others just fine like Dusty springfield, Liza Minnelli, Pete Burns, Kiki Kokova, Robbie Williams and Barney with Electronic, so why not?

yeah why not, a song or two would be cool; I like what they did with Electronic.

RIght on, to fade in on West End Girls with Hooky plucking his base in that unmistakeable 3-note beat would be quite sweet.

that's a strange avatar for a holy man

as has been stated so wisely before, johnny marr is a genius and should be new orders new gillian

captain obvious wrote: as has been stated so wisely before, johnny marr is a genius and should be new orders new gillian

But hes pretending with the Pretenders. And plays for some PSB tracks.

Well I guess they could produce something good, but that Neil is a bit of a girl isn't he? So I dunno really, i'm sure Barney wouldn't mind collaborting with em as he's a big fan.

Like many artists, Pet Shop Boys are at their best when they've got something worthwhile to say, rather than just singing about 'If I love you..' or 'Why do we hate each other so much...'.

"Learn to ignore what the photographer saw" is just as powerful, contemporary and necessary a quote to quote as Adam Ant's "Ridicule is nothing to be scared of" statement on Prince Charming.

As a gentleman of integrity, I must mention that The Pet Shop Boys first 14, maybe 17 singles, and their second & third albums were outstanding. Shep Pettibone's remix of Love Comes Quickly actually enchanced the original single. Some of their Disco/Introspective remix compilations were good too.

But I've not voted on any of the five above options, as I don't know how or how they could do in the future that would be worthwhile to music as a whole. If it's good, we need to hear it.

Empress Touch wrote:

As a gentleman of integrity, I must mention that The Pet Shop Boys first 14, maybe 17 singles, and their second & third albums were outstanding. Shep Pettibone's remix of Love Comes Quickly actually enchanced the original single. Some of their Disco/Introspective remix compilations were good too.

Left to my own devices, is one the greatest tracks from the late 90's. Last year they were here in Argentina in a Festival, and that song was still amazing.

And of course, as i said earlier in this thread, Behavoiur, A MUST.

But still, i don't think they can add, nowadays, something to New Order, IMHO

Heaven forbid they ever cross paths and join forces again. I despise the Pet Shop Boys - it's the vocals that do my head in - something about Neil Tenants fey irritatingly smug voice that just makesme want to garotte him.

PSB are great!!!!!!!!!!!! They should produce stuff for New Order!

Leonardo Fiocco wrote: PSB are great!!!!!!!!!!!! They should produce stuff for New Order!

Yeah - quite - they should start by producing some lace-embroidered beer mats for Barney & Co's next US tour rider.

I actually think it would be interesting for New Order to put out an EP (4 or 5 tracks) in late 2005, early 2006, that was produced by the PetShopBoys....

It makes me wish that New Order would do something interesting again, put out a non-lp single, or an EP, or collaborate with a bizarre situation like PSBs....

anything but the same old same old...

you only live once.... come on Bernard, do something crazy.

Pet shop boys....

Bloomin 'eck what do you guys want? A bunch of old past-it duffers linking arms with another bunch of old past-it duffers just for old times sakes? You may as well start campaigning for a new TV music programme hosted by Whispering Bob Harris called "The Last Chance Saloon" for all these old cronies to get together and jam like the old sad hammock swingers that they are becoming. Have you seen how grey Neil Tenants hair has become lately? The frigging Test Card Boys!! I ask you! Whatever next?

Tarbox23 wrote: I actually think it would be interesting for New Order to put out an EP (4 or 5 tracks) in late 2005, early 2006, that was produced by the PetShopBoys....

It makes me wish that New Order would do something interesting again, put out a non-lp single, or an EP, or collaborate with a bizarre situation like PSBs....

anything but the same old same old...

you only live once.... come on Bernard, do something crazy.

Pet shop boys....

Nooooo! Barney, don't listen to this guy!!! :) Why the Pet Shop Boys??!!? they are gone! shelved! in the past! they have lost their brains in Fairy Land....

"NEW YORK CITY BOOOOOOY...." man, that sucks in so many levels it hurts.

Of course, IMHO.

Filmstardust wrote:

Tarbox23 wrote: I actually think it would be interesting for New Order to put out an EP (4 or 5 tracks) in late 2005, early 2006, that was produced by the PetShopBoys....

It makes me wish that New Order would do something interesting again, put out a non-lp single, or an EP, or collaborate with a bizarre situation like PSBs....

anything but the same old same old...

you only live once.... come on Bernard, do something crazy.

Pet shop boys....

Nooooo! Barney, don't listen to this guy!!! :) Why the Pet Shop Boys??!!? they are gone! shelved! in the past! they have lost their brains in Fairy Land....

"NEW YORK CITY BOOOOOOY...." man, that sucks in so many levels it hurts.

Of course, IMHO.

that is the most bullshitted commebt I heard today. PSB are in the guiness world records for most successful pop duo in UK with over 30 top 20 singles, can NO do that? PSB last single went 12th, so dont even go there

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Heaven forbid they ever cross paths and join forces again. I despise the Pet Shop Boys - it's the vocals that do my head in - something about Neil Tenants fey irritatingly smug voice that just makes me want to garotte him.

get behind me in the queue for that...electronic the album would have been so much better without tennant's vocals

even if it had PSB collaboration it doesnt nessessarily have Neil's vocals.

Richard Latanville wrote:

that is the most bullshitted commebt I heard today. PSB are in the guiness world records for most successful pop duo in UK with over 30 top 20 singles, can NO do that? PSB last single went 12th, so dont even go there

First of all, i said it was my opinion, not the truth.

Second (and most important), since when chart, sales, guiness (?!?!) and hit singles equals quality??? I've thought you were smarter than that. If not, you are just embarassing yourself.

Richard Latanville wrote:

Filmstardust wrote:

Tarbox23 wrote: I actually think it would be interesting for New Order to put out an EP (4 or 5 tracks) in late 2005, early 2006, that was produced by the PetShopBoys....

It makes me wish that New Order would do something interesting again, put out a non-lp single, or an EP, or collaborate with a bizarre situation like PSBs....

anything but the same old same old...

you only live once.... come on Bernard, do something crazy.

Pet shop boys....

Nooooo! Barney, don't listen to this guy!!! :) Why the Pet Shop Boys??!!? they are gone! shelved! in the past! they have lost their brains in Fairy Land....

"NEW YORK CITY BOOOOOOY...." man, that sucks in so many levels it hurts.

Of course, IMHO.

that is the most bullshitted commebt I heard today. PSB are in the guiness world records for most successful pop duo in UK with over 30 top 20 singles, can NO do that? PSB last single went 12th, so dont even go there

Of course New Order can't equal that Pop Duo record. After all there's 4 of them.

he's right Too many members to be smashing any duo records

delilah wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Heaven forbid they ever cross paths and join forces again. I despise the Pet Shop Boys - it's the vocals that do my head in - something about Neil Tenants fey irritatingly smug voice that just makes me want to garotte him.

get behind me in the queue for that...electronic the album would have been so much better without tennant's vocals

I'm with you guys on this. PSB's can't even lace new orders boots in my eyes

PSB are quality, people I know heard it says so. Better than the shit DJ plays at club.

Nah, PSB should not be included in any new album or track. If they want to remix a track then perhaps. But, I'm fine with them going their own way.

Richard Latanville wrote: PSB are quality, people I know heard it says so. Better than the shit DJ plays at club.

richard, of course PSB are better than most DJ's stuff. I never questioned that. And if you read in my posts, you'll see that i don't "hate" PSB, in fact, i said Behaviour was one of the best albums from the 90's. In fact, i have more than 100 PSB originals (between CDs, 12", etc)

So, i don't hate them, but personally i don't think they have the same range as NO.

Filmstardust wrote:

Richard Latanville wrote: PSB are quality, people I know heard it says so. Better than the shit DJ plays at club.

richard, of course PSB are better than most DJ's stuff. I never questioned that. And if you read in my posts, you'll see that i don't "hate" PSB, in fact, i said Behaviour was one of the best albums from the 90's. In fact, i have more than 100 PSB originals (between CDs, 12", etc)

So, i don't hate them, but personally i don't think they have the same range as NO.

Dont worry i wasnt trying to defend them ;)

Neil Tennant Quality , how do you figure that. Then if you wanna watch people mimimg to a tape machine it's your choice

Here! Here!

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

kamar wrote: damn does your avatar make my stomach turn. i suggest you change the avatar and join the petition to shut down the bonsai kittens website

pansy! go back to your cure forum.

HA HA ! ...I thought his avatar was a Thompson Twin.

Well. it's like comparing apples and oranges, and mixing the two would taste yukky.

However, PSB are great in their own right. Clever, Ironic POP music at it's best. Neil Tennant balladry can get a bit too "Eltonesque" at times, but Chris lowe is a briliant musician/technologist and together they are quite 'Krafty' songwriters, IMHO. Possibly one of the best UK pop groups ever.

I remember when they played at Glastonbury, i went to the Cider Bus instead !!

Why the hell not for one song. At least a song with PSB wouldn't be complete shit like Krafty, Working Overtime, or utterly boring like WFTSC.

I think NO, chose the wrong producers for their last album. Its good but lacks heart. Maybe PSB would be a good start for rebirth like with Dusty springfield.

Incidentally, on the subject of tribute bands, anyone here come across the PSB tribute that was knocking about in South Wales a few years back? They were a couple of badly-clobbered greasy-faced geezers with a passion for cheap lager and cigarettes cadged off others and called themselves the Chip Shop Boys. They did drop-dead hilarious pastiches of PSB classics like Westgate Girls, Cum Flows Thickly, Peering Through Her Beef Curtains, I'll Be Your Gravy Tonight, Opportunities (Let's Shag Lots Of Pussy), Absolutely Crapulous, Domino Pizzas, etc.... I've subsequently found out that they are two of the guys now behind Goldie Looking Chain....funny old world innit??

Good story: They take the piss well in goldie lookin chain

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Cum Flows Thickly,

30 minutes later I can answer...this forum is really fucking slow ...Now I answer...the only good new order do in their life was work with Neil and make the group Electronic. Jonny marr did a exelent work with release but nothing more...I see here so many stupid people who dont know about PSB and dont know what they are talking about. Anyway if new order wants to works with psb again be sure they will ingore your comments for sure because you seems less intelligents and I am sure they know that.

Greeting for New Order group from Spain and lost of shit for their fans.

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Incidentally, on the subject of tribute bands, anyone here come across the PSB tribute that was knocking about in South Wales a few years back? They were a couple of badly-clobbered greasy-faced geezers with a passion for cheap lager and cigarettes cadged off others and called themselves the Chip Shop Boys. They did drop-dead hilarious pastiches of PSB classics like Westgate Girls, Cum Flows Thickly, Peering Through Her Beef Curtains, I'll Be Your Gravy Tonight, Opportunities (Let's Shag Lots Of Pussy), Absolutely Crapulous, Domino Pizzas, etc.... I've subsequently found out that they are two of the guys now behind Goldie Looking Chain....funny old world innit??

Wanker...

Whole album please with PSB, maybe we get definitely rid of some fans...

runwild 1 wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Incidentally, on the subject of tribute bands, anyone here come across the PSB tribute that was knocking about in South Wales a few years back? They were a couple of badly-clobbered greasy-faced geezers with a passion for cheap lager and cigarettes cadged off others and called themselves the Chip Shop Boys. They did drop-dead hilarious pastiches of PSB classics like Westgate Girls, Cum Flows Thickly, Peering Through Her Beef Curtains, I'll Be Your Gravy Tonight, Opportunities (Let's Shag Lots Of Pussy), Absolutely Crapulous, Domino Pizzas, etc.... I've subsequently found out that they are two of the guys now behind Goldie Looking Chain....funny old world innit??

Wanker...

Oooooh!!! Put that handbag down boy!

It appears even the undisputed drollness that is evident in much of what PSB do is completely lost on you then. Get yerself a sense of humour, you sour faced old trollop!

Runwild just wanted me banned from here.She/he is targeting anyone who thinks J-E-T sucks.she/he wants us dead for some reason.

those people who are pushing this PSB thing into THIS NEW ORDER BOARD, are really starting to be a pain in the ass. If you like PSB that much, go to a PSB forum, which you'll be (i'm sure) very welcome.

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote:

runwild 1 wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Incidentally, on the subject of tribute bands, anyone here come across the PSB tribute that was knocking about in South Wales a few years back? They were a couple of badly-clobbered greasy-faced geezers with a passion for cheap lager and cigarettes cadged off others and called themselves the Chip Shop Boys. They did drop-dead hilarious pastiches of PSB classics like Westgate Girls, Cum Flows Thickly, Peering Through Her Beef Curtains, I'll Be Your Gravy Tonight, Opportunities (Let's Shag Lots Of Pussy), Absolutely Crapulous, Domino Pizzas, etc.... I've subsequently found out that they are two of the guys now behind Goldie Looking Chain....funny old world innit??

Wanker...

Oooooh!!! Put that handbag down boy!

It appears even the undisputed drollness that is evident in much of what PSB do is completely lost on you then. Get yerself a sense of humour, you sour faced old trollop!

I´m not a boy. I am a hetero girl and big fan of PSB.

Filmstardust wrote: those people who are pushing this PSB thing into THIS NEW ORDER BOARD, are really starting to be a pain in the ass. If you like PSB that much, go to a PSB forum, which you'll be (i'm sure) very welcome.

Look, shut up you asshole.

NO and PSB are friends and if you dont like that, fuck off.

You homophobic twat...

15 or more years too late for this IMO

Mods, do what the mods in PSB forum do about the slagging, move all name calling to the off topic and lock it, this wont touch the topic here.

runwild 1 wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote:

runwild 1 wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Incidentally, on the subject of tribute bands, anyone here come across the PSB tribute that was knocking about in South Wales a few years back? They were a couple of badly-clobbered greasy-faced geezers with a passion for cheap lager and cigarettes cadged off others and called themselves the Chip Shop Boys. They did drop-dead hilarious pastiches of PSB classics like Westgate Girls, Cum Flows Thickly, Peering Through Her Beef Curtains, I'll Be Your Gravy Tonight, Opportunities (Let's Shag Lots Of Pussy), Absolutely Crapulous, Domino Pizzas, etc.... I've subsequently found out that they are two of the guys now behind Goldie Looking Chain....funny old world innit??

Wanker...

Oooooh!!! Put that handbag down boy!

It appears even the undisputed drollness that is evident in much of what PSB do is completely lost on you then. Get yerself a sense of humour, you sour faced old trollop!

I´m not a boy. I am a hetero girl and big fan of PSB.

Okay, fair dos, but I'm no misogynist either. I'm simply reiterating - and indeed re-quoting - what I read somewhere else about the dodgy past concerning that "joke" band Goldie Looking Chain. We have our own similarly puerile equivalent where I come from - they're called The Macc Lads.

Go figure.

runwild 1 wrote:

Filmstardust wrote: those people who are pushing this PSB thing into THIS NEW ORDER BOARD, are really starting to be a pain in the ass. If you like PSB that much, go to a PSB forum, which you'll be (i'm sure) very welcome.

Look, shut up you asshole.

NO and PSB are friends and if you dont like that, fuck off.

You homophobic twat...

poor idiot. Listening too many times Se Da Vida E can damage your brain, you know?

Richard Latanville wrote: It worked with Electronic, why not New order?

I think a collaboration on one wont hurt.

What do you think?

I agree with this and enourage them to do so :)