J-E-T STREAM LOVERS, so, did you buy it today?

Just bought the two cd singles through Amazon via the site.

Will be buying the 12" shortly from either HMV or Tower if they stock it here in the states.

Two quick questions:

1. Am I reading it correctly that the only place I'll "legally" be allowed to purchase certain mixes is via itunes and Napster? On other releases it seemed like there was still a way to buy them in "hard" form.

2. I noticed that the discography doesn't include these online exclusive mixes...will we have to add a new category type for the online versions?

I will look for it. Sometimes stores have 1 or 2 copies of it. That's how I got Krafty.

Nah, I have the Jonathan Ross version

Can't do it yet. It hasn't been released her yet.

I am pretty sure though that I was the first person in the world to legaly purchase WFTSC & Krafty in a shop. Unless someone in NZ beat me due to the time diff.

That was at 10.15 Easter Sunday. It would have been earlier, but they still had to price Krafty, which they hadn't even put out in the shop yet. So I had to ask for it.

Didn't WFTSC release in Japan several days before everywhere else? Tokoloshe Man may have beaten you to it!

I ordered Jetstream last week. 2 x CD5s and the 12". HMV shipped it Saturday so I may have it by the week's end.

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Spotnick wrote:

If you are looking for the 12", it's available at HMV, unfortunatly, HMV UK doesn't have a partnership program, which sucks pretty much.

They do, through *shudders* TradeDoubler.

Not bought it yet, the music store in my suburb doesn't carry singles anymore

Spotnick wrote:

If you are looking for the 12", it's available at HMV, unfortunatly, HMV UK doesn't have a partnership program, which sucks pretty much.

They do, through *shudders* TradeDoubler.

Not bought it yet, the music store in my suburb doesn't carry singles anymore

The "video" on disc 2 is the crappiest quality quicktime movie imaginable.

The covers carry a sticker bearing the legend "featuring ANA MATRONIC", but luckily they come off without leaving any glue behind...

Spotnick wrote: Let us know if you buy it today, and if you have any anecdotes of course.

If you are planning to buy it through Amazon, don't hesitate to use the links on the front page and help NOOL by the same action, as we will be getting 5% back out of any purchase done through these links.

If you are looking for the 12", it's available at HMV, unfortunatly, HMV UK doesn't have a partnership program, which sucks pretty much.

Enjoy enjoy enjoy enjoy... ;)

Don't know if I can be arsed. It's shit. Not over enamoured by what I've heard of the remixes either. Still, don't mind the covers, how much are they asking for it?

Just nipped out of the office and bought both cds from HMV. They also had the 12", but I resisted. I also bought a new watch, so the whole trip cost me a fortune!

The re-mixes are excellent - I particularly like the Arthur Baker one. On first listen, all the mixes seem to make Matronic a bit less prominent. A vocal version with more Anna would have been better than the album version - not sure why they included this.

Can't use the U-Mix and video on the computer in the office, so can't comment on them.

Hank Wiseass© wrote: Still, don't mind the covers, how much are they asking for it?

HMV Prices:

£1.99 for the base model:

Radio Edit Richard X Remix

£2.99 for the 'Fully Loaded' version:

Jacques Lu Cont Remix Richard X Remix Tom Neville Remix Arthur Baker Remix Original (The Album Version)

• the Video and the U-Mix Software.

Bargain

Should have mentioned ages ago - it was released last Friday here in Ireland - picked mine up (the video/uMix one) in HMV Blanchardstown for e3.99 on Friday afternoon & I've spent the weekend playing around with the uMix program. At this stage i've got a half decent version made up, but its a very simple program - you can't move sections around - just switch them on or off & adjust volumes. Theres quite a few glitches in it too - marks & hisses in the music/vocals & areas in the vocals where you can hear the click track(i think - generally sounds like a rhythm guitar) & Anna's 'breathing' gets in my nerves in the early sections

BIGINOIL wrote:

Hank Wiseass© wrote: Still, don't mind the covers, how much are they asking for it?

HMV Prices:

£1.99 for the base model:

Radio Edit Richard X Remix

£2.99 for the 'Fully Loaded' version:

Jacques Lu Cont Remix Richard X Remix Tom Neville Remix Arthur Baker Remix Original (The Album Version)

• the Video and the U-Mix Software.

Bargain

Yes i had to go to MANCHESTER to buy these,also bought TWO 12 inch VINYLs.One for SHUGZV cos he is too small to go shopping on his own.Finished off by buying WFTSC on VINYL.The INNER SLEEVES are truly wonderful too.Then i had a KFC and two pints of lager.But had to get back to CHORLEY quickly. Rocket Mick FIRST DAY COVER:D

Shh - I got the UMix thing working!

It's a novely item really - but nice to be able to isolate different sections. Quite surprised at how some of the the bass sounds.

The video is great - who is Dawn Shadforth?

U-MYX is quite a good toy....for about five minutes!ANyone entering the I-POD competition for this?

I've just bought the Pete Heller mixes from iTunes.

Not too bad, quite bass heavy.

Phela Vocal mix is OK, Phela Dub is a little boring and doesn't really feature any New Order!

Shame they are only available here though and not on CD, especially at 128kbps.

Still think Richard X mix is the best....has anyone heard the New Order Bunker mix yet?

I Got all thre formats, because the packaging looks pretty nice and I don't want to have any gaps in my collection. I've just spent 30 mins using the U myx software to get an acapella version, a hooky only version, a steve only version, and now I am away to sample the fuck out of them.

Pete Heller mix sounds interesting, but I wish there was a way to get all these download exclusives on cd...

Tyrone Slothrop wrote: I Got all thre formats, because the packaging looks pretty nice and I don't want to have any gaps in my collection. I've just spent 30 mins using the U myx software to get an acapella version, a hooky only version, a steve only version, and now I am away to sample the fuck out of them.

Pete Heller mix sounds interesting, but I wish there was a way to get all these download exclusives on cd...

HMV on Union St?

I can think of one way to get them onto a cd...

James Kaye wrote:

Shame they are only available here though and not on CD, especially at 128kbps.

Not bought it yet, I had a vasectomy last week and I'm still recovering so not out much just now :D

James, are you sying the iTunes version is only 128kbps? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that shite?

Itunes is killing me. It doesn't allow for non UK citizens to buy any tunes. I'm from the US and I would like to buy the Heller version. Any info on whether it will be sold somewhere else?

Got mine from Virgin in Watford.

CD1 £1.99 CD2 £2.99 12" £2.99

My favourite mixes are the Richard X remix & the Arthur Baker remix.

Wasn't on sale in Tesco, Watford unlike Krafty.

I cant bring myself to buy it, its the opposite to one of those songs that grows on you. Very disappointing..hopefully therell redeem themselves by releasing Draculas Castle as a single

BIGINOIL wrote: HMV on Union St?

I can think of one way to get them onto a cd...

Yes, that’s the one. A bit dissapointing to see it hidden away underneath the ten or so new releases that their head office is expecting to make more money on this week. I predict no top ten single.

And The Jacques Lu Cont Mix is excellent! I've been listening to it non stop. Arthur Baker mix I had high hopes for, but on the first listen it sounded rather commercial. I'll have to stick it on a few more times, hopefully I'll change my mind.

Tyrone Slothrop wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote: HMV on Union St?

I can think of one way to get them onto a cd...

Yes, that’s the one. A bit dissapointing to see it hidden away underneath the ten or so new releases that their head office is expecting to make more money on this week. I predict no top ten single.

And The Jacques Lu Cont Mix is excellent! I've been listening to it non stop. Arthur Baker mix I had high hopes for, but on the first listen it sounded rather commercial. I'll have to stick it on a few more times, hopefully I'll change my mind.

Well that's five copies from one shop alone!

Are there two versions of the Jacques Lu Cont Mix?

Itunes has it listed as "2nd Mix"??

Kevin Smith wrote: Got mine from Virgin in Watford.

CD1 £1.99 CD2 £2.99 12" £2.99

My favourite mixes are the Richard X remix & the Arthur Baker remix.

Wasn't on sale in Tesco, Watford unlike Krafty.

The two 12 inch records i bought cost £3=99p so you got a good deal there KEVIN! Cost me £13=99p for WAITING FOR THE SIREN'S CALL on VINYL aswell. But at least there are few less HOLES in my collection. Now if only i could get a bloody job.

Yep iTunes mixes are at 128kbp, although it is Apple's MP4 format, so the quality is not too bad.

Bought all the usual formats too, worth it just for a couple of decent mixes alone!!

Thought the Pete Heller remix was crap. Nine minutes and two seconds of monotony. It's like these remixers get as big pile of cash for repeating a dull loop and sticking a bit of echo on the vocals.

Prefer the Richard X mix, and the Bunker mix off Napster is ok.

To be honest I'd swap any number of tedious remixes for one decent version and a new song as a B side...

bought both cds from HMV and the 12",

CD1 £1.99 CD2 £2.99 12" £3.99

Shug, I think my postman is DEAD!

Shug wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote: Shug, I think my postman is DEAD!

Nope, it's me being a lazy bastard. I have another neworder live show from the US, but I haven't got Uncly John to copy it yet. I will try and get it to you for the weekend. I feel I must apologise!

BTW, ask Rocket for my phone number, so when you come down to play for Hyde Park you'll know where we are

Hey, no problem!

We'll arrange venue for the big handshake closer to the date! I'm sure my chauffer will find you anyway!

No one's yet to mention the Radio Edit, which is actually slightly remixed from the album version, rather than just a straight edit. Nice, nippy little single version, if you ask me. Short and sweet, very radio friendly.

Got both CDs, with the 12" awaiting collection at the Post Office at the weekend. The Jacques Lu Cont mix on the CD single is very club friendly, with a nice breakdown in the middle.

I was "thrilled" to be the person that submitted the two UK CD singles to the CDDB database a few moments ago, when I grabbed the tracks into Sonic Stage for uploading into my Network Walkman. So, if there's any typos when your computer accesses the CDDB for track details, it's all my fault!

Bugger getting those four dowloadable mixes. Don't want to join three different download platforms. There's bound to be some sort of "real" promo, and if not, I ain't including 128kbps tracks in my official New Order list. Can't be doing with that downloading nonsense - won't ever feel like a download is truly "part" of my record collection.

Andy

Andy

Shug, make sure the Gay T-Shirt has a big pic of Neil Tennant's arse , Mick will love it

BIGINOIL wrote: The re-mixes are excellent - I particularly like the Arthur Baker one.

Glad to see I'm not the only one here that does like this one! Actually, I liked it even more than the original version. I just can't stop to listen to that mix and the original version of Guilt (yes, the Mac Quayle version), which are my favourite tracks from WFTSC "era", excelent for listening in my car. :D

It never ceases to amaze me, the shit people will buy to keep their collections right.No one really likes Jetstream.Its true what they say about love being blind. For sure.Do any over 12's in here REALLY think this song is from Bernards thoughts and guts,its agadoo meets mrs britney spears wannabe.The tune is plain bore pop also.This is about corporate capital gains via kiddies pocket money.The Order were the best because they were never part of the beast,and thrived all the same.They dont need to do the jetstreams of this world,and its disheartening that they are dancing to the record bosses tune with this single being released....me thinks,it stinks

so no,i did't purchase pisstream for the record Imagine being laughed out of the shop,fingers pointing and tounges wagging, casting wild aspersions on things ranging from your sexuality to well er, your sexuality,if your over 12 that is.No thanks,i would love to buy it, but its utter shite,and camper than a row of tents.Cant wait for the next one tho eh,cos WFTSC is mintos.Might even have a proper B side,tho a 12" version with loads of hooky bass would be a dream.

Yep, 12" and both CDs to add to my horribly expensive promos. OH and the Doctor Who DVD too!

Spotnick wrote: Well, funny thing is.. on the Scissor Sister board, everybody loves this song... !!

Is that an endorsment of this single???are we now part of the sissor sister fan base too.Cum on sir they our our band.What next a duet with Garath gates covering YMCA.I would personly like to Jetstream this abborition of a wasted single into outer space,with a sign saying CAUTION LARGE PIECE OF FAKE SHIT ON BOARD to warn our fellow galaxians to steer clear,an then send them the next single as a beautiful gift from planet new order,and a gesture for the misdemeanor of sending out space junk noise pollution

michael brown wrote: It never ceases to amaze me, the shit people will buy to keep their collections right.No one really likes Jetstream.Its true what they say about love being blind. For sure.Do any over 12's in here REALLY think this song is from Bernards thoughts and guts,its agadoo meets mrs britney spears wannabe.The tune is plain bore pop also.This is about corporate capital gains via kiddies pocket money.The Order were the best because they were never part of the beast,and thrived all the same.They dont need to do the jetstreams of this world,and its disheartening that they are dancing to the record bosses tune with this single being released....me thinks,it stinks

you have it all wrong... a poptastic tune like Jetstream is harder to write than you can imagine... if it were so easy to put together this type of 'crap' then anyone could do it and there would be stars everywhere making millions with pop hits... pop just gets no respect...

as a musician, i know firshand how hard it is to write a song that gets into people heads, makes them tap their feet, remember the words days later.... not an easy thing to do.

it is GOOD pop... and pop is serious art....

Got to agree with Mr T there - this is going to be a wedding dj standard for years to come, and quite right too.

Little girls will invent a "Jetstream" dance - you'll see. That's the measure of a good pop song.

I really think it's amazing that New Order have come up with something so good in this genre. The song stands well on it's own - Matronic turns it into a classic.

BIGINOIL wrote: Got to agree with Mr T there - this is going to be a wedding dj standard for years to come, and quite right too.

Little girls will invent a "Jetstream" dance - you'll see. That's the measure of a good pop song.

I really think it's amazing that New Order have come up with something so good in this genre. The song stands well on it's own - Matronic turns it into a classic.

your havin a laugh,its boring at best, and a potential cred smasher sell out at worst, i am loathe to say.Its a massive faux pas.Bad song.Bad move.End of story

I was as shocked as anybody when I first heard this tune but, I'll agree with Tarbox on this one... this tune is a carefully crafted pop song with a MONSTER hook in it that sinks it's teeth in and doesn't let go. It's a tune that, for better or worse, gets stuck in your brain by the end of the day. It's what a lot of musicians strive for but can never seem to get out. Is it classic New Order? Hardly, but if you listen close enough, it oozes New Order from every notes, beat, and breath. And no, I'm not talking about the obvious (Barney's singing, Hooky's bass), I'm talking about listening further into the music and uncovering something that is so familiar to the ear, yet different. Jetstream has a proper ebb and flow that leads you through it with constantly evolving sonics and a chorus who's vocals are stacked so deep and wide they seemingly have no end. The production is fantastic, the song is catchy, and the mix is perfect.

While it's perfectly fine to hate it and it may be too much "pop" for some, don't discount or belittle the opinions of those who might actually enjoy it.

Tarbox23 wrote:

michael brown wrote: It never ceases to amaze me, the shit people will buy to keep their collections right.No one really likes Jetstream.Its true what they say about love being blind. For sure.Do any over 12's in here REALLY think this song is from Bernards thoughts and guts,its agadoo meets mrs britney spears wannabe.The tune is plain bore pop also.This is about corporate capital gains via kiddies pocket money.The Order were the best because they were never part of the beast,and thrived all the same.They dont need to do the jetstreams of this world,and its disheartening that they are dancing to the record bosses tune with this single being released....me thinks,it stinks

you have it all wrong... a poptastic tune like Jetstream is harder to write than you can imagine... if it were so easy to put together this type of 'crap' then anyone could do it and there would be stars everywhere making millions with pop hits... pop just gets no respect...

as a musician, i know firshand how hard it is to write a song that gets into people heads, makes them tap their feet, remember the words days later.... not an easy thing to do.

it is GOOD pop... and pop is serious art....

Firstly i like pearl and crown, and One afternoon more so.Well done mate...but jetstream is not a good pop song,by new order or anyone.It is the shits on any level, in my humble opinion,you yourself have much better work than this lame piece.My mind was made up about Jetstream soon after i heard it in februray.It remains diabolical and poor, for new order even more so.And it was recently reviewed as sissy for christ sake,which it is.Sadly.

You just haven't heard it live yet, so stop whining.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: You just haven't heard it live yet, so stop whining.

So you like it then?

its sissy shite live aswell

i get the feeling Tarbox was taking the piss but it's flown over several heads on a collision course with other piss taking comments of late.

I hated Jetstream with a passion at first but it sank in and i found myself singing it when i hadn't heard it in days. Richard X's mix (and Bakers mix) increased the drama and put Hooky right up front where he belongs. It's a pop song, nothing more. You either like it or not. I'll be buying it because i love the sleeve(s) and think the mixes are great.

NEW ORDER ARE NOT MOODY INNOVATORS ANYMORE, GET OVER IT!

World in motion is no temptation,true.but it pisses on jetstreamits their worst ever by a million miles.Why didn't they fetch Turn out?...would go down a storm in the summer here that song

just hearing/reading you guys complain makes me want to listen to it right NOW!

J-E-T...

Bakers mix has an interesting synth element that rules on the headphones. i love the panning guitars and ana's backing vocals are much lower in the mix. Still think Richard X's mix is the best but Bakers has improved with more listens.

Mr Discography wrote: No one's yet to mention the Radio Edit, which is actually slightly remixed from the album version, rather than just a straight edit. Nice, nippy little single version, if you ask me. Short and sweet, very radio friendly.

Andy

Andy

damn, yer right Andy. i never listened to the edit until i read your post and it is significantly different. well, by significant i mean it's not a straight edit. it actually sounds more like what they played live than the album version. nice little treat!

I havn't brought it on release, i'll be buying it a day after though.

Haven't bought it yet, but soon, soon...

WIVING WEGENDS

After several listens, I can't decide whether I like the Neville or Baker remix most; they're both good, as is the Richard X one. SP2 less so.

Baker for me

Ana's more prominent in the mix and the Nokia battery low noise is much clearer!

I need to listen to all of them a few dozen more times before I cast my vote.

Pats, is that a total of a few dozen times for all Jetstream remixes combined or a few dozen times per remix before you make up your mind?

There are currently at least 10 versions available so that's a minimum of 360 listens.

I just need to check if my desk calendar goes beyond 2009 so I can mark down the anticipated date of your announcement.

:\pimp3:

depthcharge wrote: Pats, is that a total of a few dozen times for all Jetstream remixes combined or a few dozen times per remix before you make up your mind?

There are currently at least 10 versions available so that's a minimum of 360 listens.

I just need to check if my desk calendar goes beyond 2009 so I can mark down the anticipated date of your announcement.

:\pimp3:

Perhaps he's going to listen to them all at the same time?

Woolworths of Tooting came up with the goods.

Remix CD is excellent - their best set of mixes for a long time. Like all 4 of them on there pretty equally. Well worth the £3

depthcharge wrote: Pats, is that a total of a few dozen times for all Jetstream remixes combined or a few dozen times per remix before you make up your mind?

There are currently at least 10 versions available so that's a minimum of 360 listens.

I just need to check if my desk calendar goes beyond 2009 so I can mark down the anticipated date of your announcement.

:\pimp3:

Well, DC, I only have the four on CD2. So if we define "few" to include two, that would be 96 listens, I think?

It might not take that many of course.

Seb Briggs2 wrote: Woolworths of Tooting came up with the goods.

Remix CD is excellent - their best set of mixes for a long time. Like all 4 of them on there pretty equally. Well worth the £3

The US Krafty CD plus this one is a big improvement over the average quality for GR remixes.

Patrick wrote:

depthcharge wrote: Pats, is that a total of a few dozen times for all Jetstream remixes combined or a few dozen times per remix before you make up your mind?

There are currently at least 10 versions available so that's a minimum of 360 listens.

I just need to check if my desk calendar goes beyond 2009 so I can mark down the anticipated date of your announcement.

:\pimp3:

Well, DC, I only have the four on CD2. So if we define "few" to include two, that would be 96 listens, I think?

It might not take that many of course.

Bear in mind that this forum can be received in both Europe and the Former Colonies. In both jurisdictions, "a few" is legally defined as three or more.

Please edit your original post to say "a couple of dozen" if this is in fact the case.

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

depthcharge wrote: Pats, is that a total of a few dozen times for all Jetstream remixes combined or a few dozen times per remix before you make up your mind?

There are currently at least 10 versions available so that's a minimum of 360 listens.

I just need to check if my desk calendar goes beyond 2009 so I can mark down the anticipated date of your announcement.

:\pimp3:

Well, DC, I only have the four on CD2. So if we define "few" to include two, that would be 96 listens, I think?

It might not take that many of course.

Bear in mind that this forum can be received in both Europe and the Former Colonies. In both jurisdictions, "a few" is legally defined as three or more.

Please edit your original post to say "a couple of dozen" if this is in fact the case.

Do you have a cite for the proposition that "few" is defined as "three or more"?

Now if I had said "several," that would be quite different.

Patrick wrote:

Do you have a cite for the proposition that "few" is defined as "three or more"?

Now if I had said "several," that would be quite different.

How many good men where there in A Few Good Men?

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Do you have a cite for the proposition that "few" is defined as "three or more"?

Now if I had said "several," that would be quite different.

How many good men where there in A Few Good Men?

Gee, I don't know. Twelve?

Patrick wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Do you have a cite for the proposition that "few" is defined as "three or more"?

Now if I had said "several," that would be quite different.

How many good men where there in A Few Good Men?

Gee, I don't know. Twelve?

Well then.

H-M-V, H-M-V you are so good to me.

Went on the ten past eight bus just to make sure that i was the first in the queue when HMV BARNSLEY opened at 9 o'clock,sadly the only stampede was the ten thousand or so bulls that had escaped from the nearby abbatoir. Couldn't be arsed to look for it so asked the bird behind the counter,she just gave me a very blank expression,then had a look at her computer screen (very reminiscent of the little britain sketch,computer says no!),anyways i left the sour faced y.t.s cowbag and found both cds and the vinyl,i apprached a different till and when the guy serving noticed what i was buying ,he said new order -good choice! we then had a conversation lasting about ten minutes regarding wftsc and hyde park,the conflab ended suddenly when his supervisor approached and asked him if he hadnt anything to do,i said my goodbyes to my new found no mate and just as i was going out the door he shouted at the top of his voice that his boss was a bryan adams fan !

this made my day!

poetic justice me thinks!

The album version had me convinced it was crap. The radio version and the video (yes. I like it. Shoot me) convinced me it's a case of "not that bad at all, quite nice actually". And their worst single ever is Sub-culture.

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Do you have a cite for the proposition that "few" is defined as "three or more"?

Now if I had said "several," that would be quite different.

How many good men where there in A Few Good Men?

Gee, I don't know. Twelve?

Well then.

42?

Patrick wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Do you have a cite for the proposition that "few" is defined as "three or more"?

Now if I had said "several," that would be quite different.

How many good men where there in A Few Good Men?

Gee, I don't know. Twelve?

Well then.

42?

What was the question again?

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Do you have a cite for the proposition that "few" is defined as "three or more"?

Now if I had said "several," that would be quite different.

How many good men where there in A Few Good Men?

Gee, I don't know. Twelve?

Well then.

42?

What was the question again?

I forget...

2 questions: If I use the link above and then use the link to the American site, do you still get your money? And if I buy used do you still get your money?

Rocket Mick wrote:

Kevin Smith wrote: Got mine from Virgin in Watford.

CD1 £1.99 CD2 £2.99 12" £2.99

My favourite mixes are the Richard X remix & the Arthur Baker remix.

Wasn't on sale in Tesco, Watford unlike Krafty.

The two 12 inch records i bought cost £3=99p so you got a good deal there KEVIN! Cost me £13=99p for WAITING FOR THE SIREN'S CALL on VINYL aswell. But at least there are few less HOLES in my collection. Now if only i could get a bloody job.

I got Krafty from the same place for £2.99 as well. I paid £11.99 + £1 postage for WFTSC vinyl.

What holes do I have? Not many...

Seems to be something about us NO fans not being able to get jobs We must be too smart for regular employers.

No, I didn't go out and buy "Jetstream" - I decided to be really subversive and buy two Limp Bizkit albums instead.

Nah, I don't think I'm gunna get this single

Patrick wrote: I need to listen to all of them a few dozen more times before I cast my vote.

Tough Break,I hope you pull through mate cos that is gunna hurt your luggs

Is the song only offered on the UK itunes store??

The fact that I absolutely loathe the Scissor Sisters gives me ever more ammunition for hating Jetstream as a song on principle. It's cack. With added cheese. :dead:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: The fact that I absolutely loathe the Scissor Sisters gives me ever more ammunition for hating Jetstream as a song on principle. It's cack. With added cheese. :dead:

I think your right about this stupid scruffy piss attempted/failed Britney spears sissy single.What the fuck is going on?Are they going sell loans on the telly with this shit,in keeping with their new found principles What the fuck can you do ?They better had'nt fall so low tho IMO

Bought CD1 and CD2 on Monday .Its now Thursday and the only track ive bothered listening to is the Rdaio edit.Sorry, just aint got the time!.Though i did have a look at the U- Myx thing on the Computer.Aint got a clue how to use it to make me own mix though and very much doubt if ill find the tiem to do that either.Really wish i could spend all day all week devoted to New Order and NOOL like you lot.But i have to work 40 hours a week.Oh well Lifes a bitch eh?

Just so's you knows. The Jacques Lu Cont remixes on the UK CD single and 12" are the same. Both 8.19, and no discernable differences that I can pick out.

Andy

Stockholm Monster wrote: Bought CD1 and CD2 on Monday .Its now Thursday and the only track ive bothered listening to is the Rdaio edit.Sorry, just aint got the time!.Though i did have a look at the U- Myx thing on the Computer.Aint got a clue how to use it to make me own mix though and very much doubt if ill find the tiem to do that either.Really wish i could spend all day all week devoted to New Order and NOOL like you lot.But i have to work 40 hours a week.Oh well Lifes a bitch eh?

Umyx is piss easy! and my mix is far superior to any of t'others - it doesn't have enema-chronic on it or any of that J-E-T shit - and finishes on Hooky's reverb!

Only enough of us did here to get it to number 30 :( (Ireland)

Finally received the single today. CD2 of course, got enough of those half arsed CD1s with just a couple of edits. Another reason why it didn't chart too well... If you don't know what to add, just put some fookin live tracks! It's so easy, why don't they think about it. Well, CD2 is the best I could expect from a CD with no B sides, though I have to say I can't get the U Myx program working. I get this error message:

Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library Runtime Error! Program E:\U-MYX.EXE abnormal program termination

I guess it's something missing in my Runtime Library, but which library is exactly and where can I download the missing stuff?

Anyway it's still a great single, though the video is, once again, horrible, their worst since, erm... State Of The Nation?

So what makes this a great single? Yeah, the remixes, they're all greats, each with its take of the song: Jaques Lu Cont loops some vocals (though I'd have certainly looped the J E T spelling moment, it was just born for remixes and nobody got it...) on a soft but powerful base and makes good use of Hooky's bass. Richard X starts with the drum machine of Video 586 and then basically replaces the original base with a harder and wonderful one (going from True Faith-ish to disco) keeping the surface of the song similar to the track. Tom Neville makes an excellent hard electro version of the track, good for the dancefloor, sounds a bit like Kraftwerk remixing acid house... The best remix comes from our good old mate Arthur Baker, with his splendid space techno remix, fabulous keyboards and great rhythm... gives also space to a section of Hooky's bass which virtually can't be heard on the original...

OK, got mine yesterday (the UK import) from Amazon ($.060 in NOOL's pocket, right?).

Did anyone already mention:

1. The aformentioned "Ana Bridge Vox" is listed as "Original" and is a straight rip from the album, sound effects intro and all. Disappointing. I wanted the video mix.

2. The audio in the u-myx segment is from the video mix! So, export a WAV file of the unmolested tracks, and you have the 3,59 "Jetstream (Video Mix)." Cool!

3. The video quality really does blow. MPEG-4, 320 x 240, 15 fps. The streaming version looked much better, honestly.

That is all.

OK folks... I ordered this one (see below) a sec ago at Amazon.de. Don't know if it is 1 or 2. I'm a bit afraid because it is only available as UK-Import... No german release?

1.Jetstream (Jacques Lu Cont Remix - 2nd Mix) 2.Jetstream (Richard X Remix) 3.Jetstream (Tom Neville Remix) 4.Jetstream (Arthur Baker Remix) 5.Jetstream (Ana bridge vox) 6.Jetstream (Video)

I got the UK CD2, with the UMix and remixes.

Umix is fun, I'll have to make a full thing to post up on the umix server soon.

OK gang, here is my biggest complaint - this single is recorded WAY TOO HOT. It's compressed and squished to ride that "redline" - all the dynamics are killed and everything is distorted at the peaks! From a boombox or a stock car stereo it sounds fine, but if you put it in a decent audiophile rig it it unlistenable, like HORRENDOUS. Even the album version on the single is mangled way beyond the cleaner WFTSC album track. I'm very disappointed - it sounded like the worst moments of the NYC show when the crap engineer at the mixing board put everything in overdrive and made a sonic mess.

I bought it to hear the remixes and cuz it's NO.

I'm not getting my hopes up though.

(((((e)))))

yeah...since I'm in the states they wont let me buy it from the uk store...that sucks. Here I am trying to give the band/label/itunes my money and they can't figure it out.

yeah...since I'm in the states they wont let me buy it from the uk store...that sucks. Here I am trying to give the band/label/itunes my money and they can't figure it out.

Gnu Odor wrote: ...

Did anyone already mention:

1. The aformentioned "Ana Bridge Vox" is listed as "Original" and is a straight rip from the album, sound effects intro and all. Disappointing. I wanted the video mix.

I just noticed this on my disc (NUCDP14) today as well. Why is this? Is this a mis-print and subsequent releases were changed or what?

MYOB wrote: Only enough of us did here to get it to number 30 :( (Ireland)

that was just you & me:D

FDISK wrote: Umyx is piss easy! and my mix is far superior to any of t'others - it doesn't have enema-chronic on it or any of that J-E-T shit - and finishes on Hooky's reverb!

So, did you upload it to the Jetstream site?

I've got two mixes there - one just trying to make a silk purse out of the radio edit, the other a DUB - which I prefer to all others at the moment. There's about 3-4 other decent mixes there & the rest aren't worth a listen - of course mine are the best:D

Ironwill wrote:

Gnu Odor wrote: ...

Did anyone already mention:

1. The aformentioned "Ana Bridge Vox" is listed as "Original" and is a straight rip from the album, sound effects intro and all. Disappointing. I wanted the video mix.

I just noticed this on my disc (NUCDP14) today as well. Why is this? Is this a mis-print and subsequent releases were changed or what?

Actually, what is listed as the "original", isn't the album version. Same structure and length, but in the "bridge" between the second chorus and the final chorus there are some additional "Ana" vocals, or "vox" (the same as appears on the Radio Edit at the same point). Hence the alternative mix title "Ana Bridge Vox", I suppose. A very minimal difference, but I guess they decided to ditch those particular vocals for the album mix.

All very pointless.

Andy

Thanks, Andrew. I hadn't listened to Track 5 all the way through, so I didn't catch the embellished Ana vox...of course, it's listed as "Original," so what the hell does that mean? This is the original version, and they took out the Ana bridge vox for the album?

Oh, and I just downloaded the Popworld video, for which they cut the track down to three minutes and faded out the instruments at the end, leaving just the vocals. I guess that's Jetstream (Popworld Video Remix Edit).

Man, I'd effing hate to be Mr. Discography at this point.

Oh yeah, I downloaded Napster Lite :barf: to preview the exclusive remix and couldn't find it.