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So with this big Live Aid 2 type thing going on this summer, what are the chances New Order getting invited.
Last time each band was given a 20 minute set of which I recall Geldof telling everyone "only your fu**ing hits". So what would there set look like?
I have a dream set that won't happen, so I am thinking what would it probably be. For me I could see this being the set.
Crystal Krafty or Regret Love Will Tear Us Apart Blue Monday.
That should take put them around the 20 minute mark.
The only bands that'll probably get invited are the band aid 20 folk, which is a shame cause 'busted' have split up now haha
Don't want them to play it. They'll skydive in my estimation if they do it regardless of the "charidee" aspect. They were cool enough (along with The Smiths) not to do it the first time around with all those feckless twats like Wham! and Status Quo so why on earth should they do it this time around? New Order on stage with The Darkness and Charlie from Busted singing Feed The World? No fucking way 
That would truly end my interest in the band; the Jonathan Ross performance times a hundred million! :( Mind you, with Rob Gretton no longer steering the band I'm seriously worried they may sign up for it 
Morrissey best summed the whole Band Aid thing (and Geldof) up as "vile". Never a truer word...
Ally.
I concur with the "never will play" crowd, NO avoided looking ridiculous the first time around.
Why share the stage with "the other guy from Wham!" or Meatloaf......'s back-up guitarist 
Am I too harsh in my estimation of the talent that LA2 would be able to draw? 
I'd sooner they swerve it, but Warner are pushing the album so it'd most likely happen, and it'd be the NME Awards set to reinforce the 'legends' status, with Krafty replaced by the 'current single' :(
Y'know, I feel for them having to whore themselves so obviously at present - they're worth so much more. Ungrateful general public! *shakes fist, adjusts teeth*
Taboo # 7 wrote: Am I too harsh in my estimation of the talent that LA2 would be able to draw?
Too generous mate.
Ally.
OH MAN IVE GOT TO AGREE WITH ALLY ON EVERY POINT HEREooops c/lok.
i personally wouldnt like to see new order play this cash cow,the thought of bono punching the air and shouting "drop the debt" then new order opening with lwtua makes my head spin.
as for the debt being dropped i totally agree but until the western world gets its head round the fact that africa isnt like europe or america and that it operates on a completely different social structure,dropping the debt wont do one iota of good.
within months not years it will be back to the same precarious state its in now,im not pointing the blame at africans on this,but the banks of the west whom have lent billions to africa yet sit idle whilst aids ravages the continent,i supposer its africas only way out with these bastards.
if their is no one left to pay we will take the land.
LE Roberts wrote: Regret BLT LWTUA Blue Monday
...if it were to happen.
Shockingly original btw.
Digital Mike Binoche wrote: Hurt Ceremony Chosen Time Regret
That'll do nicely
But if they go for the old faves we will get Temptation LWTUA Blue Monday (no time for a fourth with that lot)
BTW, I was one who would have wanted them to do LA 20 years ago & I still would like to see them do it today - the whole thing did generate a lot of money & save a lot of lives, so why slag it off? This time around Geldof is much more politically astute (& powerful) and I'd trust him not to waste the oppertunity.
I'm still wondering who made the most money from Live aid 1 - African poverty or Queen / U2 - both dead ducks at the time. Bob FuckOff is inviting the same boring twats as last time, Queen, Stink and FU2 - and you still want New Order to play? I doubt FuckOff has heard of them, I doubt the Live Aid audience has heard of New Order.
Ally3000 wrote: Don't want them to play it. They'll skydive in my estimation if they do it regardless of the "charidee" aspect. They were cool enough (along with The Smiths) not to do it the first time around with all those feckless twats like Wham! and Status Quo so why on earth should they do it this time around? New Order on stage with The Darkness and Charlie from Busted singing Feed The World? No fucking way
Morrissey best summed the whole Band Aid thing (and Geldof) up as "vile". Never a truer word...
Ally.
Doesn´t Moz say everything is "vile"???
Blue monday is too much of a production to playe in a 4 song set.
Unless they play a 20 min version of it.
That would be great and redeem them playing live aid, even though i dont think they will even be asked.
New order wont bring in money for them. Kylie minonge is more the type.
Ally3000 wrote: That would truly end my interest in the band; the Jonathan Ross performance times a hundred million!
*What are you on about Ally?
Like wow, the last album is brilliant! But... hang on a minute... they did Live Aid... can't hear it anymore... 
We all want them to stay cool, but if they don't, they're still the best band in the world, cool or not.
Doctor Clayhead wrote: Doesn´t Moz say everything is "vile"???
Yes but it happens to be true in this case.
Ally.
They could make good publicity out of Live Aid if they choose the right songs:
True Faith (Has to be the starter, because everyone has heard that song on the radio. So the spectators going: "'New What' are they called?" will at last have a vague idea who 'New What' is.
Krafty (Has to be next because it is fresh. Perhaps someone heard it accidentally in a chart show sometime somewhere. Then it's near to: "Ahh... those guys")
Regret (Its a nice one for all audiences, it will at last convince the rest of the women in the audience)
Blue Monday (It hate to suggest that song, but they need to put in a dance track. I bet many people heard this song in the radio before and wondered who did it.)
i don't think NO would accept to be on LA2. Mostly, because there would be full of bands from the Band Aid 20, which sucks hundred times more than the first one.
I always thought that the best thing to come out of 'Live Aid' was Chumbawamba's reactionary first album:
'Pictures Of Starving Children Sell Records'
If Hooky sticks to his 80's claim of being a 'Crasstafarian' (fan of the ahem... 'music' and ideologies of the band Crass) then I reckon he'd rather join Ian on the end of a rope than play on stage with a bunch of bands desperately wanting to re-vamp their careers.
The original idea of Live Aid was okay, but why bother making lots of money (mainly for record companies) then give what's left over to the GOVERNMENTS of the 'poor' countries, so that their politicians can then spend it on weapons, cash crops and flash cars...?
Better to highlight the absolute corruption of those people, introduce POLITICAL and COMMERCIAL sanctions against the abusers (US and UK/European companies) and boycott the companies/conglomorates/individuals taking over the land to grow cash crops for the 'West' and thereby denying the people the land and opportunity to farm and therefore feed their families.
I went off Chumbawamba when they signed to EMI, but their first album is a true classic - funny, poignant, erudite - songs both well-written and played
Crass was a fookin great band, now that's sheer punk, I adore their (no 'ahem's) music... there was something unique in them...
I don't see them doing this sort of thing. They only play at festivals & do a few of their own concerts these days. Nothing involving charity or any other evvents. They didn't even play at the Manchester Commonwealth Games, even though they did previously appear in the handover from KL to Manchester, hence Perfect Kiss 98. As Barney said it was a bit naff.
So I don't see them doing this. If they did. Blue Monday Vietnam Love Vigelantes. (HOWEVER ITS SPELLED.)
Surely just the obvious -
LWTUA25 Blue Monday
Didn't the likes of U2 and Simple Minds, bands on early in the day, only get two tracks each last time around?!
Chris Nash wrote: I always thought that the best thing to come out of 'Live Aid' was Chumbawamba's reactionary first album:
'Pictures Of Starving Children Sell Records'
If Hooky sticks to his 80's claim of being a 'Crasstafarian' (fan of the ahem... 'music' and ideologies of the band Crass) then I reckon he'd rather join Ian on the end of a rope than play on stage with a bunch of bands desperately wanting to re-vamp their careers.
The original idea of Live Aid was okay, but why bother making lots of money (mainly for record companies) then give what's left over to the GOVERNMENTS of the 'poor' countries, so that their politicians can then spend it on weapons, cash crops and flash cars...?
Better to highlight the absolute corruption of those people, introduce POLITICAL and COMMERCIAL sanctions against the abusers (US and UK/European companies) and boycott the companies/conglomorates/individuals taking over the land to grow cash crops for the 'West' and thereby denying the people the land and opportunity to farm and therefore feed their families.
I went off Chumbawamba when they signed to EMI, but their first album is a true classic - funny, poignant, erudite - songs both well-written and played
Chris-- just using your post to respond in general, not to you in particular. But you raise some good points. If people are serious about boycotting predatory companies, they'll have to start paying attention to where their cocoa and coffe come from, and stop buying Shell and other petrol brands drilling in Africa. I rather doubt there's much motivation in Europe, let alone North America, or even NOOL, for a real boycott.
Before people slag off this campaign any more, perhaps they could at least read up on what Geldof is saying/doing, because frankly some of the posts here are shockingly misinformed. THEN if you still disagree with Geldof, at least you will have an informed basis for your opinion.
As for the bands that have signed on, yeah, they all pretty much suck (I exclude U2 from that assessment, although I know most of you loathe U2). But if you were trying to get the largest numer of people in the world to give you a sliver of their limited attention span, would you sign bands that you like, or would you sign bands that the largest number of people like? This isn't about exposing people to new music, it's about grabbing an enormously large audience's attention long enough to get on your soapbox about African poverty. The musical taste of the majority of people is appalling, and that is reflected in the lineup for Live 8.
More appalling to me is that people cheer New Order on for buying yachts and tanks, and slag off other bands for lending their fame to the campaign to end African poverty. For all I know, New Order do help out where they see fit, even if they do it quietly, so I don't slag them off; but the invective hurled at other bands here, and particularly at Geldof, by people who are doing nothing to relieve African poverty, is shameful.
Well said. It's always the biggest critics who do stuff-all themselves - this whole thing is not about music, it's about getting a very important issue in the public mind and if that involves getting the most popular bands as opposed to the "coolest" or "best" bands, then so be it. It's similar to people critisizing Bill Gates for donating billions to charity, saying he's doing it for this reason or that - like the head of one of the aid agencies said: to the starving mother with children it doesn't matter one bit who gives the money or for what reason.
