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New Order won't be appearing at "Live 8" - Credibility intact then! :nod:

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Everyone who's seen the news today will have noticed Sir Bob "Give us yer fucken money" Geldof has announced plans for a new set of Live Aid-style worldwide gigs. While this is a great opportunity for Joe Public to be lectured by international mega-stars/poverty experts such as Bonio, Madinner, Oldplay and Reg Dwight, I am so relieved at not seeing New Order's name in the BBC list of "artists" (I use that term loosely) who will be appearing:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4596885.stm

Thank fuck! :thumb: It just wouldn't have been right them taking part.

Ally.

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No big singalong with Bono and Elton John, then, holding hands and swaying back and forth (along with a live satellite feed of Eminem) in a chorus of "Do They Know It's G8 Summit Time."

:barf:

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No disrespect but if only they had a political clue between them all...

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yeah if they cared, they'd live on a reasonable amount of money and give the rest to those in need, but then, that wouldn't get them all those worldwide feed brownie points. Vampires.

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I think Geldof is doing the right thing, as far as trying to so something to relieve the poverty in Africa.

But that lineup at Live 8 is crap. It will probably sell millions. :shrug:

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bLuE oRdEr wrote: I think Geldof is doing the right thing, as far as trying to so something to relieve the poverty in Africa.

But that lineup at Live 8 is crap. It will probably sell millions. :shrug:

I agree that Geldof is right - people here are missing the point of this one, which is to show the G8 people that we aren't happy with the way that they are (not) dealing with the third world (political, mainly) problems. These concerts are FREE - they are not looking for our money, they want our suppourt for an ideal - they have mine!

& I'd love to see NO play at one of these 5 similtaneous concerts - actually, if they were to play at all 5 - & be their usual dodgy live selves at all 5 - then I would love it!!:clap: :clap: :clap: If you could put the Pernod (etc.) into the mix - imagine how they would sound by the 5th concert:dead: :evil4: :clap:

:tank:

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Robbie Williams? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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well... THE CURE are indeed! :skeptic:

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Geldof is the one missing the point. Debt relief, foreign aid, and "awareness" will amount to jack shit as long as the tribal "Big Man" system is in place throughout Africa. But A-ha will get some good press and Robert Mugabe will likely get a couple more Mercedes out of the deal and Africa will be as #$(#*ed as it was 20 years ago.

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Maybe I'll buy a Live 8 T-shirt, but it'll probably be made in China, not Africa.

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I'm part of the way with Gnu on this one, shouting at G8 ain't going to make a difference, the problems are more systemic. I still think more money will be generated for bands than Africa in the long term - shame on Muse and Kaiser Chiefs for involving themselves in this - expect their profile to rocket internationally.

I noticed GetOff has managed to get himself on the bill again - expect another Bullshit Rats greatest hits soon then.

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I'm sure Bob the Gob is well intentioned ....but I still want to vomit every time I see/hear him. Perhaps a decent hairdo might make a difference

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He needs a haircut, a shave and a bath.

That much is for sure :thumb:

Ally.

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Gnu Odor wrote: [soapbox]

Geldof is the one missing the point. Debt relief, foreign aid, and "awareness" will amount to jack shit as long as the tribal "Big Man" system is in place throughout Africa. But A-ha will get some good press and Robert Mugabe will likely get a couple more Mercedes out of the deal and Africa will be as #$(#*ed as it was 20 years ago.

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Maybe I'll buy a Live 8 T-shirt, but it'll probably be made in China, not Africa.

Requiring the poorest of the poor to continue to continue to cope with the outrageous debt payments isn't going to solve the dictatorship problem... More likely, the crushing poverty will keep the dictators in power. Be honest here; if you've paid any attention at all to what Geldof's been doing, you know that he's had his run-ins with an African tinpot or two. It's intellectually dishonest to characterize Geldof as being as naive as you paint him.

Nevertheless, Geldof and Bono both recognize the role the G8 nations play in the downward spiral of Africa; whether or not Geldof et al. can do anything about Mugabe, Kabila, and the rest, there is something they can do to influence G8 economic policies towards Africa. Unless somebody's got a better idea, and is actually getting up off their ass and doing something about their better idea, I say hats off to Geldof and Bono for putting as much energy as they do into it.

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delilah wrote: I'm sure Bob the Gob is well intentioned ....but I still want to vomit every time I see/hear him. Perhaps a decent hairdo might make a difference

Yes, a decent hairdo would certainly be a step in the right direction towards alleviating poverty in Africa. By the way, along those lines, you'll be happy to know that the Spice Girls are reforming for Live 8.

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Ummm.... I could be wrong, but I could swear I heard that these shows were going to be free. I believe I even heard the quote from Sir Bob, "we want the people, not their money" (or something like that).

If this is indeed true then some of you bashing him for money-grubbing have it wrong.

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Scissor Sisters? With Barney for singing "Jetstream" with Ana?

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Ally3000 wrote: Thank fuck! It just wouldn't have been right them taking part.

Thank fcuk cos some of us are seeing 'em in Turin that night!

(Although they could do the lunchtime sesh in Rome, I guess, then drive like barstewards to reach us!!)

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manumatic wrote: Ummm.... I could be wrong, but I could swear I heard that these shows were going to be free. I believe I even heard the quote from Sir Bob, "we want the people, not their money" (or something like that).

If this is indeed true then some of you bashing him for money-grubbing have it wrong.

AFAIK it is true -& I applaud Geldof for his stance. Whatever you say about the man, he hasn't given up. 20 years ago he was promoting Live Aid, now people are saying 'here we go again' - but Geldof (& others incl. Bono) has been working on the same problem for ALL THAT TIME. He's not doing this for self-promotion (although some of the bands will be), he's actually trying to do some good - unlike the rest of us.

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Al Jarvis wrote:

(Although they could do the lunchtime sesh in Rome, I guess, then drive like barstewards to reach us!!)

I think that might actually happen.

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tickets are "free" but you have to text in to get them

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The bands on the Hyde Park line-up aren't that bad (then again, I'm a Cure fan), but the list for Philadelphia, my home town, is pretty dull. Heck, even the Killers are playing in the UK rather than over here.

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