Barneys dancing reminded me of David Brent. Good show though. They all looked very comfortable in front of the cameras. Made me laugh when they said Stephen Morris looks like Jools Holland.
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Acoustic Ladyland -crazy name. crazy guys - did two songs 'Thing' and 'Iggy' and were a real shot in the arm for these jaded ears, I'm gonna buy some stuff. Thought the Coral were sharp as well, NO were NO, not much to write home about.
Clockwork C wrote: Shit.
Is this going to be repeated?
Don't know but the NO part is available for download at:
I thought it was great, especially the interview: they're like a bunch of schoolkids constantly taking the piss out of each other and cracking in-jokes. Don't think they can believe they're still getting away with it....![]()
Could have done with knowing that be for we went to Barca. "Watch yer handbag" Robbin Bas***ds.Good one last night.
The perfect New Order appearance really....take the music very seriously, take the complete piss in the interview.
As for those "other" acts that were on. Guys, you gotta learn the difference between what's shite and what you don't like, it's actually possible to dislike people who are very good, and like people who are very bad ( check the title bar of your browser for instance), both situations are cool. But to say people are crap, untalented or a joke, when they are none of those, and the truth is you don't like em, that's just silly.
Accoustic ladyland were exceptionally talented musicians, that horrid noise thay made was intensely tight and clever. You have thought it sounded bloody awful, that's cool, but you cannot say they can't play, cos I doubt anyone here could play half as well, I certainly couldn't.
Dave Mings wrote:
Clockwork C wrote: Shit.
Is this going to be repeated?
Don't know but the NO part is available for download at:
Thanks for the tip ![]()
well with all the nazi hoo haa that has surounded the band since its inception over 25 yr ago,you think barnster would have more sence than to walk on stage with a guitar with a confederate flag stuck on it.
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greg gould wrote: Could have done with knowing that be for we went to Barca. "Watch yer handbag" Robbin Bas***ds.Good one last night.
Yep, some twat swiped my camera out of me rucksack at some point on the Friday night....
Seems that NO are not that popular with the late night BBC2 audience!
Thought it was pretty good myself - just need to nail Barney's shoes to the floor!
Only caught Transmission, and dimeadozen is overloaded with subscribers so I can't get on there. Anyone know if it's available on another site? Doesn't seem to be on the bbc2 one and doesn't look like it's being repeated any time soon
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delilah wrote: Only caught Transmission, and dimeadozen is overloaded with subscribers so I can't get on there.
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Try it again every 30 minutes or so, I just got in after trying it for a while. :)
DubVulture wrote: Seems that NO are not that popular with the late night BBC2 audience!
Thought it was pretty good myself - just need to nail Barney's shoes to the floor!
can't believe those stats.everyone vote,lets bump them up a bit![]()
I went I voted and I lied. Cos I kinda thought son of dave was the best thing on it, certainly the most original and very talented.BUT, it's the best I've heard New Order play in a hell of a long time. But I'll have to watch again, to see if this bloke who's leading was any better than the supermarker music the first notes sounded like when I stabbed "mute".
I get the feeling my new acme flameblocker2005 may be needed.
But look, I voted right :)
Well, I just watched it, after a rought day of painting and moving.
I must say, I thought New Order lost it when I saw them at the NME Awards and on the Canal+ Sessions, but since then, they are improving each time I see them... !!!
What can I say, flawless performance, quite enjoyable... ok, small mistakes here and there, but what do you want, Bernard has always had problems with singing and playing at the same time so he needs an autocue to remember the lyrics but he still fook up sometimes.
That's ok, he's allowed to, if you want perfect New Order, you listen to the studio material.
I'm quite happy they did WFTSC instead of Jetstream... I came to the conclusion that Jetstream was imposed by the label, seeing it bomb so badly in the charts, it prooved their point! and now they don't have to do it with Ana Matronic by their side.
I don't know why New Order doesn't tour with Dawn Zee... she should be there, and I also don't get why Phil is NEVER there when they do interviews... isn't he a FULL member now? ![]()
Anyways, let's be honest, I have the feeling that the upcoming gigs will only get better... I still wish I could do Hyde Park... but I'll survive! ![]()
I agree, they are getting better each time, some bands don't even tackle playing live on tv, so respect there.
WFTSC was a good choice, and I am glad they did Transmission, instead of LWTUA, if only to have decent dvd quality clip of it to keep.
However, I would really like them to play TURN.
no live version at all yet?
Shame I hope it doesn't go the way of things like "someone like you" and "Here to Stay", as it's a much more accessable track (much as I adore the others)
EDIT: I always feel ill watching NO do transmission, it just rings false somehow, I think of all the JD songs they do, it suffers most from not having Ian's power behind the vocal. However, I really enjoyed this version.
Thumbs up from me, although I also thought there was something missing from the sound, it wasn't LOUD enough, espescially the drums and the Bass. Phil has really settled in and added an extra dimension to the guitar parts of the songs while Barney is singing, and he's showed that he's not bad on the ole keyboards either. I agree with Nic, it's about time we heard Phil in an interview....but then again, it's very rare we hear from Steve cos of Barney and Hooky, so what chance does poor ole Phil have!?!
A solid enough performance, the vocals always seem on edge at the start till Barney settles into the song. Nic also mentions the songs have been getting better each time live, and I also agree, which is why I still can't believe the furore over the Jonathon Woss performance![]()
Krafty was good, WFTSC was even better, and I thought that Transmission topped the lot. Ok so they'll never be the greatest live band, but for me I couldn't care less. It adds to the charm don't it ![]()
Are we going to get these clips on NOOL Nick?
Like Clock, I missed the show, & I'm not signed up to either Torrent provider so. . .
Anyway I did log on to the BBC site & vote for NO - I'm sure that, after seeing the show I'll still think they were the best![]()
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CuanaD wrote: Are we going to get these clips on NOOL Nick?
Can I second that? still can't get onto dimeadozen and can't run the uknova download
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yes overall they was great,even though as others have pointed out the sound seemed a bit dull??,but when i play it back through my pc it seems to have improved??. something i noticed after watching this a few times is that barney has a backing vocal tape with his own voice for the chorus on wftsc. its obvious he wasnt miming(who could mime and still be that bad eh)but it did suprise me.
Aye, the bridging and backing vox, along with some KB noises and spot noises are coming in off the evil HD recorder ( Or Phils got a talented nob). Personally I would rather they used a sequencer a sampler, cos at least that's 2 living machines playing the stuff, with potential for doing their own thing and so on, rather than poopy old works-perfectly-or-not-at-all HD.
As for the Dull sound....I didn't think it was too bad, but have not listened to it cranked yet.
However, in an environment like that, typically the band's backline will be lower than they would ideally use on stage, in some cases because it can obliterate the house PA, but usually cos TV types are level ponces and clean signal freaks. It can take a fair chunk of the sparkle out of playing, and even make normally enjoyable songs quite hard work.....not least because you hear your little fook ups more, and therefor make bigger ones.
Would that tally with the experiences of some of the other people who play here? And indeed, would anyone who was there care to comment on what the sort of PA level was, and how much noise the bands were making without it (assuming you were used as standard BBC accoustic dampening during the soundcheck)
We thoroughly enjoyed the Jools Holland show and Tricia asked me the following pertinent questions:
- Why doesn't Jools Holland do a jam with New Order like he does with other famous bands?
and:
- Why doesn't anyone ever interview the anoracky guy (Phil) - I thought you said he was a 'proper' member' of New Order?
She also pointed out that:
'Otto' is there!
Dawn is there - I've seen her live!' (jumping excitedly)
At least they didn't play 'Jetstream'
I hope they're that good when we see them at Finsbury... I mean Hyde Park...
OH MY GOD - I'VE CREATED FRANKENORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've just watched the footage as I was out on the sauce on Friday night. Not bad overall.
For those that missed it, it kicked-off with Krafty with WFTSC later, then an interview with that oily git Holland and Transmission to finish. Did you notice they didn't have the strings run towards the end of WFTSC and just went back into the play-out? Seeing as Phil was playing guitar at this point, I suppose they couldn't be arsed running it as a sequence!
If anyone missed all this and wants it all on an old-fashioned PAL VHS video-cassette, get in touch as I've got it all and can knock you out a copy.
Cheers and here's to a top night at Hyde Park!
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Ps Holland jamming with his guests: The Fall were on some time back and Smith had it written into their contract that Holland was expressly forbidden to add his wearisome, overused pianoings to their set!
CuanaD wrote: Are we going to get these clips on NOOL Nick?
I need to find the best way to convert a DVD into WMV, as simple as that... !!
Spotnick, my good man, may I ask you why it has to be wmv specifically? Setting aside my natural anti-microsoft ways for a moment, it doesn't strike me as a TERRIBLY good format, and madly enough, it seems to be one of the ones Windows Media Player chokes on most often.
I'm figuring it's not out of brand loyalty to Billie boy, so errrr what's up doc?
BTW, is the standard wmv decoder just a decoder or a codec, if It's codec I can PROBABLY use it with transcode to get a wmv out of the avi of the show I have here.