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6 Jun 2005, 06:13

Steve Campbell wrote: Spotnick, my good man, may I ask you why it has to be wmv specifically? Setting aside my natural anti-microsoft ways for a moment, it doesn't strike me as a TERRIBLY good format, and madly enough, it seems to be one of the ones Windows Media Player chokes on most often.

I'm figuring it's not out of brand loyalty to Billie boy, so errrr what's up doc?

BTW, is the standard wmv decoder just a decoder or a codec, if It's codec I can PROBABLY use it with transcode to get a wmv out of the avi of the show I have here.

Quite simple really, WMV usually has the best size/quality ratio and the encoder is free.. Real Media is not what many people want apparently, plus I managed to encoded the DVD into WMV, but Real Producer Basic won't do it.

Also, if I do a DivX AVI, many people won't be able to read it because they don't have the codec, although all WMV can be read on 90% of the computers worldwide.

So you see, it's hard to please everybody !! last time I posted MPEG up, I had several people unable to read them!

6 Jun 2005, 07:44

Media formats in windows drive me looney, I've seen WMP return all manner of errors, can't do this, that's not a valid class, the other's not found....then made the same file open in mplayer in linux.

EDIT: forgot to say, your reasons seem fair enough BTW, just in case the rest of this gives you the opposite impression.

"oh shut up you whinging geek" I hear you say, but no....there is a point. For most formats, and especially closed ones owned by people like u-know-who, mplayer uses the VERY SAME codecs....mostly the same versions and sometimes scraped off your own winbox.

REALLY irrelevant OT bit.....

Linux video stuff can be a whore to install if you have the wrong distro, it can also be unfathomably difficult to work out the first thing....it get's easier as you go, until you're just getting stupid and arrogant, and turning avi's into dvd's by typing one word and the filename and the like. In windows ( ie when th penguin stuff was beyond me.....ie before I got gentoo) it's all so fluffy and easy and pretty, untill you spend 49 hours waiting on a movie transcoding from mpeg1ntsc to mpeg2pal, only for it to error out after 30 hours, and for the half complete files to have wandering (not offset, wandering) soundsync. That's when I bailed.

6 Jun 2005, 08:48

Hello all,

Any chance of the Jools Holland appearance being posted on NOOL? I'm in the states and can't afford the BBC on my cable!

Toodles, Veronica

7 Jun 2005, 10:12

Actually, watching it again this morning i noticed a lot more Phils Wah Wah wank guitar style on Transmission.He really is making New Order just A.N. Other rock band with that shit isnt he? :nonono:

7 Jun 2005, 23:29

He'a guitarist ( a normal one not a barney), it#s his job to make pointless, bland and irritating noises the whole way thru every song in his perpetual quest to be the one who egt's the blowjob from the groupie (YES....got a zappa reference in on NOOL /me does victory lap).

Hooky needs to take him to the side and feed him my oft quoted, mangled line from "Fliht of the Intruder".......

"Guitarists make movies, bassplayers make you move"

8 Jun 2005, 07:32

Digital Mike Binoche wrote: I agree, they are getting better each time, some bands don't even tackle playing live on tv, so respect there.

WFTSC was a good choice, and I am glad they did Transmission, instead of LWTUA, if only to have decent dvd quality clip of it to keep.

However, I would really like them to play TURN.

Mike's a Turn convert!