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What happened to this? Do you think it should be released exactly like the original singles?
I think they could release all the versions of each song in one CD and use the original sleeve. SO Round & Round would be one CD instead of two like the orignals.
of course, it seemed like an excellent idea at the time,because a lot of their early sigles/B-sides were never available on CD, but London Records released Best Of / Rest Of instead, which is NO WAY to chronicle New Order's ongoing career is it? Looks as if the opportunity has been well and truely pissed away. Sad isn't it?
Todd 
It hasn't been pissed away yet...when I get around to selling all these beer cans I have, I intend to found my own record label...sign the order, and then arrange to make this thing happen....
so there is still a glimmer of hope...a very faint, almost nonexistant, glimmer....
to be continued....
instead of releasing another compilation of songs that every fan of the group already has they should release a rarities set.there must be loads of decent stuff they never released over the years?
Originally posted by Martin Sheridan instead of releasing another compilation of songs that every fan of the group already has they should release a rarities set.there must be loads of decent stuff they never released over the years?
Here Here!, the more material the merrier i say! How about htis for a controversial suggestion and get a tribute album recorded. Duran Duran and Led Zepplin has had this done in Australia and they are quite good, expecially seeing how people reinterpret songs. It is also better if they do covers of songs that were not singles, also saves listening to the same songs repeatedly
I was actaully in the works of forming a JD tribute band but couldnt find anyone willing to do Ians dead fly dance so it never happened
i think the idea of a heart and soul type box would be better all singels all album tracks and demos etc it would be a fuking big box but i think it would be worth it
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New Order should do what the Pet Shop Boys did: re-release every single album with a bonus cd containing the different single remixes, b-sides and outtakes of that period. I'd buy every single album again!
Originally posted by Ian Pillar I was actaully in the works of forminga JD tribute bandbut couldnt find anyonewilling to do Ians dead fly dance soit never happened
I have it perfected, and sound like him without the need for artificial enhancement ! Long way from Australia though. Video conferencing any good to you ??
off topic i know but does anyone know of an electronic 12" called "solar flare"? i've seen for sale on a couple of online stores but have never heard of it before.dont wanna shell out for it in case its a new version of disaapointed or something..
Originally posted by Martin Sheridan off topic i know but does anyone know of an electronic 12" called "solar flare"? i've seen for sale on a couple of online stores but have never heard of it before.dont wanna shell out for it in case its a new version of disaapointed or something..
Never heard about this.
Originally posted by Knight of Ni > Originally posted by Martin Sheridan> off topic i know but does anyone know of an electronic 12" called "solar flare"? i've seen for sale on a couple of online stores but have never heard of it before.dont wanna shell out for it in case its a new version of disaapointed or something..
Never heard about this.
"Ni!"
Originally posted by Fac21 > Originally posted by Knight of Ni> > > > Originally posted by Martin Sheridan> > off topic i know but does anyone know of an electronic 12" called "solar flare"? i've seen for sale on a couple of online stores but have never heard of it before.dont wanna shell out for it in case its a new version of disaapointed or something..>
Never heard about this.
"Ni!"
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I think maybe they could just release all the singles again in CD format. so you could buy that one you don't have or that one you've got but is in Vinyl format.
Here's how I think it should look. Face it, this is a brilliant opportunity for any major label to bring out a comprehensive box set of CD reissues containing all the Factory releases that were (largely)never issued on CD format. Knowing the current record co's apathy, this may seem like pissing in the wind, but sod it, in an ideal world, this is what we should expect:
deep breath then.....
All CDs in miniaturised card covers with inner sleevs and not one crappy jewel box in sight.
CD one: CEREMONY Outer Sleeve: the 7" gold embossed design Inner Sleeve: the green 12" design on one side/blue and white 12" design on flip tracks: Ceremony (original "green" mix)/In A Lonely Place (original mix)/Ceremony (rerecorded "blue/white"mix)/ In A Lonely Place (rerecorded mix)
CD two: PROCESSION/EVERYTHING'S GONE GREEN Outer sleeve: the same as the 7" version (whichever colour variation they want to use) Inner sleeve: the Factory Benelux beige/red boxes one tracks: Everything's Gone Green 7" mix/Procession/Mesh/Cries and Whispers/Everything's Gone Green 12" mix
CD three: TEMPTATION Outer sleeve: same as 12" sleeve Inner sleeve: 7" sleeve detail tracks: Temptation 12"/Hurt 12"/Temptation 7" edit/Hurt 7" edit/(bonus track: Temptation 87 Substance version)
CD four: BLUE MONDAY 1983 / BLUE MONDAY 1988 Outer sleeve: same as die-cut floppy disk 12" (possibly) OR The concentric circles design Inner sleeve: plain black or silver with colour coded edge tracks: Blue Monday (original full length)/The Beach (original full length)/Blue Monday 88 12" remix/Beach Buggy 12"remix/Blue Monday 88 7' edit
CD five: CONFUSION Outer sleeve: same as original 12" Inner sleeve: plain bright colour with FACD 93 embossed (possibly) tracks: Confusion/Confused Beats/Confusion Instrumental/Confusion Rough mix (all original 12" versions)/(bonus track: Confusion 87 Substance version)
CD six: THIEVES LIKE US Outer sleeve: same as original 12" inner sleeve: same as Benelux "Murder" 12" tracks: Thieves Like Us/Lonesome Tonight/Thieves Like Us (Instrumental)/Murder/ (possible bonus tracks: Thieves Like us (3.52 radio edit)/ Lonesome tonight (3.57 radio edit))
CD seven: THE PERFECT KISS Outer sleeve: same as original 12" with embossed letters Inner sleeve: the 7" Benelux sleeve with Barney on front and Hooky on rear tracks: The Perfect Kiss 12"/The Kiss Of Death 12"/Perfect Pit/The Perfect Kiss (7" edit 4.23 mins)
CD eight: SUBCULTURE Outer sleeve: new design possibly (original 12" was just boring black card sleeve with centre label die-cut) Inner sleeve: red or yellow with original typography as on 12" tracks: SubCulture 12" (remix)/DubVulture 12"/SubCulture 7" remix edit/(Bonus track: SubCulture - RM 1986 remix)
right - to be continued next post... a loo break beckons!!!
CD nine: SHELLSHOCK Outer sleeve: same as 12" original Inner sleeve: same as 7" - white with lettering centred on one side/ detail of 12" inner sleeve and FAC 143 legend other side tracks: Shellshock 12"/Shellcock 12"/Shell shock 7" mix/Shellshock (US demo mix)
CD ten: STATE OF THE NATION Outer sleeve: same as original 12" inner sleeve: same as original 12" tracks: State Of The Nation 12"/Shame of The Nation 12"/State of the Nation 7" edit/Shame of the Nation 7" edit/ (bonus track: State of the Nation (Instrumental mix))
CD eleven: BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE Outer sleeve: same as original but green tints replaces all yellow to avoid confusion with above Inner sleeve: same as on original 12" tracks: Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone, 7" single edit)/Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone 12" version)/ Bizarre Dub Triangle 12"/Bizarre Love Triangle (Stephen Hague mix - version on "Select Magazine" Factory Tape)
CD twelve: TRUE FAITH Outer sleeve: same as original 12" Inner sleeve: same as original REMIX 12" tracks: True Faith 12"/1963 12"/True Faith7"/True Faith (Shep Pettibone mix 12")/True Dub 12"
CD thirteen: TOUCHED BY THE HAND OF GOD Outer sleeve: same as 12" Inner sleeve: same as 12" tracks: Touched By The Hand of God 12"/Touched By The Hand of Dub 12"/TBTHOG 7" edit/TBTHOG - Salvation! Soundtrack version/Let's Go (original instrumental)
CD fourteen: FINE TIME Outer sleeve: same as original 12" Inner sleeve: silver card/gold card finish tracks: Fine Time 12"/Fine Line/Fine Time (7" edit)/Don't Do It/Fine Time (Messed Around Mix)/Fine Time (Silk Mix)
CD fifteen: ROUND & ROUND Outersleeve: same as original 12" Inner sleeve: same as REMIX 12" tracks: Round & Round 12"/Best and Marsh 12"/Round & Round 7"/Round and Round (Detroit Mix)/Vanishing Point (Making Out Instr.)/Round & Round (Club mix)
CD sixteen: RUN2 Outer sleeve: as 12" original Inner sleeve: gold or matt silver finish with title embossed? tracks: Run2 (12" extended mix)/Run2 (edit)/MTO/MTO (minus Mix)/Run (album version)
CD seventeen: WORLD IN MOTION Outer sleeve: as original 12" Inner sleeve: as remix 12" (?) tracks: World In Motion 12"/World In Motion (the b-side)/WIM (Subbuteo mix)/WIM (Weatherall mix)/(bonus tracks - the other two tracks on the Andy Weatherall remix 12")/ WIM Purely Instrumental mix.
CD eighteen: BONUS DISC OF MEGAMIXES new outer and inner sleeve design possible tracks: US mixes of TBHOG/True Faith/Aussie 12" mix of Paradise/Remix of Angel Dust (Evil Dust) / New US versions/mixes of Temptation/Confusion/16-minute version of Elegia?!?!?!/Let's Go (unreleased demo?!?!)
There! I think that's all the Factory releases gathered together then. The outer box would of tough laminated construction and flip top lid and consist of a nice wrap-around montage of all the sleeves merged into one another. Perhaps a booklet be inserted inside but hopefully WITHOUT any text from Paul Morley. Retail price? Look at around £45-50. I think that sounds just perfect. What do you think?
And once they've done that, they can rerelease strictly limited edition similarly card-sleeved versions of their six Factory albums as well - remastered and with any extra tracks or versions that should be included
("Paradise - Australian remix", and "Evil Dust" - spring to mind).
God- we're clearly expecting the world at this rate, aren't we??!! 
Sounds fantastic. Can you just print that out and send it to Pete Tong? Maybe if we all start emailing him (i bet we can get his address) he'll get the message. Better yet, one nicely worded message with Hubert's layout. Of course, they would find a way to f#@k it up.
Cheers - hope it does do the trick then! But there may be some gaps there - I'm sure the original Factory 3" CD of Fine Time has a different listing, ditto the 5" CD issue of Touched By The Hand Of God - neither of which I have anyway.
By the way - on a completely different matter but still NO related - I finally got hold of that elusive New Order track "BRUTAL" as featured on the soundtrack to "The Beach" - can't believe my luck when I found it in a local shop in Middlesbrough today - priced only £1.99 !!! (Brand new copy as well!) So - Bargain of the week then! :)
Whizzed it home, stuck it in CD player straight to track 12, and finally got an earful of it - very similar to Get Ready's tracks in sound (producer Rollo but also assisted by 140 db/Steve osbourne) so I can now understand why some of you wished to have it included in your preferred track listings of GR.
Some other good tracks on it too - notably Barry adamson, Orbital, Faithless and ADF.
Never saw the film though, mind - don't like Leornado Di Caprio.
Wow, 'Bertie, that's impressive 
- now if only it became a reality....?
This whole "BoxSet or No BoxSet?" saga has gone on long enough now for it to warrant a reassessement in my opinion....it's criminal that while so many other acts are getting their stuff reissued to death (like with The Pet Shop Boys albums recently) a band like New Order cannot secure enough support for a retrospective collection such as this to even get off the drawing board. Honestly, how short sighted can some people be? :(
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle And once they've done that, they can rerelease strictly limited edition similarly card-sleeved versions of their six Factory albums as well - remastered and with any extra tracks or versions that should be included("Paradise - Australian remix", and "Evil Dust" - spring to mind).God- we're clearly expecting the world at this rate, aren't we??!!
That and the singles post were a Huntsmanesque critique, I think you'll all agree ;)
Perhaps now that technology has moved on a little we should include the videos as well on a DVD. All the singles on seperate CD's with the original artwork and a DVD with the vids and maybe some live stuff.
Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe That and the singles post were a Huntsmanesque critique, I think you'll all agree ;)
What do you mean "Huntsmanesque critique"????!! Are you trying to discredit me or something.....? ;)
I've given this very important topic some add'l thought. I'd love to see the band be as thorough as the PSB and Erasure were on their "recent" re-releases, but seeing as how important the cover art is to each individual NO single, my preference would be to have a box set that contains each single with the original artwork. Similar to what Mozzer has done (embarrassingly, more than once).
Having said that, I wouldn't want the label to feel obligated to only include the tracks that were originally on each single - let's finally have some bonus tracks to cherish (and plenty of them).
I don't understand why some people doesn't like world in Motion. for someone like me, from another country, the song sounds very nice. Maybe the lyrics are like "Sunkist Thing", I mean like a jingle and not a song. Is it how you feel in UK?
Originally posted by Shug world in motion - do we have to have it? sorry wrong thread!!
I completely agree.
Originally posted by Tracey Spivey I've given this very important topic some add'l thought. I'd love to see the band be as thorough as the PSB and Erasure were on their "recent" re-releases, but seeing as how important the cover art is to each individual NO single, my preference would be to have a box set that contains each single with the original artwork. Similar to what Mozzer has done (embarrassingly, more than once). Having said that, I wouldn't want the label to feel obligated to only include the tracks that were originally on each single - let's finally have some bonus tracks to cherish (and plenty of them).
Originally posted by Luis I don't understand why some people doesn't like world in Motion. for someone like me, from another country, the song sounds very nice. Maybe the lyrics are like "Sunkist Thing", I mean like a jingle and not a song. Is it how you feel in UK?> Originally posted by Shug> world in motion - do we have to have it? sorry wrong thread!!
Luis - it's a tongue in cheek criticism - I don't particularly dislike the music - it's more of an England connection - if only they never had the cheesey "Playing fer England" bit in the song - I'd probably like it - but don't tell anyone mate;)
The truth of the matter is that on the rare occasion that Scotland qualify for anything in football, they approach the finest that they have to offer, like Teenage FanClub and Belle and Sebastian, and the Scottish FA get told to fuck off as the bands don't want their reputations sullying !
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle Cheers - hope it does do the trick then!
there's a 3" cd on factory of fine time? is this factory uk? don't remember that - got the fine time & remix cd singles when they came out (though lost the remix one - or was i dreaming it?) the touched 5" came in a cardboard sleeve - had touched, temptation & something else on it as i recall. can't remember off hand.
Fine Time wasn't released on 3" CD. Round & Round was the only one as far as I'm aware.
Has anyone got/seen the Blue Monday '88 CDVideo? I was looking through an old Record Collector recently and it's listed as "Existance unconfirmed"!! I've got the True Faith one, but never saw a BM88 one.
No, I'm POSITIVE I've seen Fine Time as a 3" CD somewhere - I know "Round and Round" also came out as a 3" CD as it was packaged in one of those "long packs" - I remember seeing BOTH this one AND the Fine Time one at a Record Fair in Newcastle in 1990 - fuck only knows why I didn't snap both of them up at the time....it isn't difficult to imagine just how hard I'm banging my head against that wall even to this day about that missed oppoprtunity - proverbially speaking of course.
Oh yeah Old Blue - I also spotted your queried BlueMonday88 CD video - going for an astronomical sum in a Leeds record collectors stall last year - they wanted £30 for it but my pocket could only muster up a whimper of defeat sadly. So - it DOES exist - and the CD is actually GOLD in colour - same sleeve as the 12" mind.
Originally posted by dave hibell > Originally posted by Hubert Mickle> Cheers - hope it does do the trick then!
there's a 3" cd on factory of fine time? is this factory uk? don't remember that - got the fine time & remix cd singles when they came out (though lost the remix one - or was i dreaming it?) the touched 5" came in a cardboard sleeve - had touched, temptation & something else on it as i recall. can't remember off hand.
Something else was Confusion Dub.
I'd like toosee released 1981-82 EP in CD. I think it was released only in Canada and it is out of print. Does anybody know where we coul find it?
About the CD releases of every single. I think it would be neat even to just re-record ever single from Ceremony to Brutal in a 2002-suited manner. Like when they jazzed up True Faith in.. 94 or 96.... Just picure the beauty of In A Lonely Place rerecorder with modern equip... *drool* Like yeah.. They could have the original version, the album version, an instrumental, the b-side, a rerecorded version, a remix and a cover by someone else that most closely resembles the original track... THAT'D be sweet. btw, my band is planning on doing a metal cover of World (The Price Of Love). I'll let the site know when it's released. You know what? They should throw in Love Will Tear Us Apart too, that is the best JD song and is in my top 10 singles of all time for sure. Later.
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle No, I'm POSITIVE I've seen Fine Time as a 3" CD somewhere - I know "Round and Round" also came out as a 3" CD as it was packaged in one of those "long packs" - I remember seeing BOTH this one AND the Fine Time one at a Record Fair in Newcastle in 1990 - fuck only knows why I didn't snap both of them up at the time....it isn't difficult to imagine just how hard I'm banging my head against that wall even to this day about that missed oppoprtunity - proverbially speaking of course.Oh yeah Old Blue - I also spotted your queried BlueMonday88 CD video - going for an astronomical sum in a Leeds record collectors stall last year - they wanted £30 for it but my pocket could only muster up a whimper of defeat sadly. So - it DOES exist - and the CD is actually GOLD in colour - same sleeve as the 12" mind.
yeah BMcvd does exist - miffed as I ordered it from a record shop but it never arrived though did get true faith with evil dust. that too on gold cdv. £30 seems ok price for it too. is the fine time 3" a foreign release (japanese?) or uk?
Originally posted by Logan Edwards About the CD releases of every single. I think it would be neat even to just re-record ever single from Ceremony to Brutal in a 2002-suited manner. Like when they jazzed up True Faith in.. 94 or 96.... Just picure the beauty of In A Lonely Place rerecorder with modern equip... *drool* Like yeah.. They could have the original version, the album version, an instrumental, the b-side, a rerecorded version, a remix and a cover by someone else that most closely resembles the original track... THAT'D be sweet. btw, my band is planning on doing a metal cover of World (The Price Of Love). I'll let the site know when it's released. You know what? They should throw in Love Will Tear Us Apart too, that is the best JD song and is in my top 10 singles of all time for sure. Later.
They could put a live version too in it, couldn't they?
Good job on those CD issues, Hubert!!!!
Gee, if those really get released the way you described..I would die a very happy man.....
If they're very expensive, I would probably trade my first-born for those........
