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A bit pissed tonight and watched the 5 11 DVD again for the first time in ages.They looked and sounded so much more enthusiastic at that gig* .So much more effort seemed to be put in than from what ive seen and heard in 2005.And theyve aged dramatically in just a few years.Even Phil looks more kanackered these days.
*although exactly how many songs had after- productiuon jobs for the DVD from that gig?
Jed Stephens wrote: I say soon after the next album, a small tour, hopefuly finishing in Manchester, then barney will hang up his dancing shoes, steve will look after the kids and bang about his shed, phil will do sessions and hooky will play in salford british legion till he dies, although he aparently lives in alderly edge, cheshire (very posh).
I've been preparing myself for this, and although it would be sad I would prefer them to officialy retire rather than keep going and get dropped by the label or just fade out into obscurity.
the final tour should be a fucking belter, if recent gigs are anything to go by.
I hope that when this happens, and sadly I reckon it will,
they need to make an official announcement rather than the mumblings they threatened us with in NewOrderStory. I was in agony until 2001 after that - I'd rather face up to the reality than pretend that it might not have happenned...
I say next year, if they release the next album which is said to be finished. These are my reasons:
I think given the choice, Bernard would rather be making Electronic records, but for pure economics he was forced back into New Order.
Hook said Bernard got the band to finish all the songs - more than they needed. I think it is part of Sumner's grand plan to quickly bang two NO albums out to make some quick dosh, and then return to Electronic again, with the hope that this time the duo takes off commercially.
Bernard has already stated he has not finished with Electronic. Hooky, perhaps because of Electronic, is launching yet another band of his own...
As for live performances, I can actually see New Order stop recording albums together, and just reuniting for lucrative gigs.
Was at the NY show and they all looked happy to be performing. EVERYONE in the audience was dancing and having a great time. Thankfully, they will probably not be different than most boxers in this age in that they will constantly "come out of retirement". Difference is they will be successful. They still make great music!! Much depends on a new fan base. I, for one, have my 15 year old daughter into them. Screw the music today's youth are into, save for a few bands like The Killers.
NO Fan wrote: I say next year, if they release the next album which is said to be finished. These are my reasons:
I think given the choice, Bernard would rather be making Electronic records, but for pure economics he was forced back into New Order.
Hook said Bernard got the band to finish all the songs - more than they needed. I think it is part of Sumner's grand plan to quickly bang two NO albums out to make some quick dosh, and then return to Electronic again, with the hope that this time the duo takes off commercially.
Bernard has already stated he has not finished with Electronic. Hooky, perhaps because of Electronic, is launching yet another band of his own...
As for live performances, I can actually see New Order stop recording albums together, and just reuniting for lucrative gigs.
I like the sound of this package, especially as I think theres a lot more unused mileage to be had out of Electronic and Hooky has learnt a lot from being out of (the 93-01 hiatus), then back in NO which will only enrich the idea of Freebass...
NO Fan wrote: I say next year, if they release the next album which is said to be finished. These are my reasons:
I think given the choice, Bernard would rather be making Electronic records, but for pure economics he was forced back into New Order.
Hook said Bernard got the band to finish all the songs - more than they needed. I think it is part of Sumner's grand plan to quickly bang two NO albums out to make some quick dosh, and then return to Electronic again, with the hope that this time the duo takes off commercially.
Bernard has already stated he has not finished with Electronic. Hooky, perhaps because of Electronic, is launching yet another band of his own...
As for live performances, I can actually see New Order stop recording albums together, and just reuniting for lucrative gigs.
If Electronic couldn't take off commercially in their heyday, it ain't gonna happen to-day. Marr ain't selling records these days (Remember RECORDS ,thems the black plastic thingymijigs u throws at zombies. :D ), New Order's barely charting. The only way Marr is ever gonna sell records again is if he (1) buries the hatchet with Morrissey (WITH Morrissey, not IN Morrissey :D ), or (2) if he gets a gig in a record shop. The only way Sumner's ever gonna sell records is if he keeps recording, and more importantly, TOURING, with New Order.
I recall reading a recent interview in which Bernard said he hoped to be "doing this" (making music) for many more years to come.
That warmed my heart.
Cuz I know how precious every day is. You don't want to do a gig, then look back upon the last 25 years, and think, what kept us from doing this all these years?
Jed Stephens wrote:
I've been preparing myself for this, and although it would be sad I would prefer them to officialy retire rather than keep going and get dropped by the label or just fade out into obscurity.
That would be a truly sad end to their career.
In a few years, they could end up being the Rolling Stones of the electronic world. But we'll have to see.
BTW, Sumner said that there could be an Electronic best of.
Spotnick wrote: Of course, they have to convince Bernard, but as Hooky said, he's not stupid, he knows you just don't release a record and don't promote it.
Well, XTC have been doing this for decades. But I also think they'll tour. This time it was festivals, next time it'll be venues... Apparently they were thinking about a venues tour already for this September, but then just thought at taking a break before the next album... it's probably the right choice, otherwise they could have really got sick of each other again. About Electronic, I've read Bernard says they won't reform, but you never know, Johnny isn't doing too well with the Healers... Electronic were a hit machine compared to them... About retiring before the decline, I disagree... I like seeing bands which once were in the mainstream carry on doing their thing in a smaller dimension with dignity... the perfect example is Marillion, though I don't like them I admire how they reacted to their decline. They were dropped from the label and just started releasing records on their own, building a strong web community which made a hardcore following. They now run a rather successful businness of their own (recording costs are paid by the fans pre-orders and they still have a rather large audience at gigs) and they've taught a lesson to every record company that if you really take care of things even the most unlikely of them can work.
i guess it is wait and see how much of a splash the next album will make... and sorry to be negative but it's hard to believe Still Waiting for the Bloody Siren's Call Part 2 (or whatever they call it) will generate as much interest as this years album... new New order albums have become commonplace, unless they somehow have a killer single hidden away.
a reduced interest in New order will mean the label and New order will have less interest in New order... and they are getting older obviously
I hope New Order don`t end up like Echo & The Bunnymen.Crap albums and sad, afternoon slots at festivals.
Johnny wrote: I hope New Order don`t end up like Echo & The Bunnymen.Crap albums and sad, afternoon slots at festivals.
A sad, sobering thought.
Yeah ,i guess so.Just found watching the Bunnymen on telly at a 5pm Glasto slot a bit sad this year.Might take a bit of getting used to at first but then it will be the same laugh as always.
Did i read recently Jagger is 56?I thought he was older than that?I mean , Barney`s not that far off is he.
Johnny wrote: Did i read recently Jagger is 56?I thought he was older than that?I mean , Barney`s not that far off is he.
He's 62. He was 60 in 2003.
Hooky as Keith Richards. There's something.
