Just got a phonecall from Al, Everything's Gone Green is BACK (I could hear the strains of "Is this the way that you want me to be" in the background!)
I fuckin hope they play it at T in the Park.
Setlist will be put on the Ceremony Forum in a bit
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Not really one of my favorite, but I'm happy to see that they have listened to us.
Now, where's Age of Consent? ;)
Curious to see what have been dropped to put this one on...
craigy wrote: Excellent news; peed off that they didn't do it at Hyde Park...
Blame the autocue...
Lucky bastards!
Spotnick wrote: I'm happy to see that they have listened to us.
Sure they have. Has it ever occured to you that the fact they didn't play BM at Glasto had something to do with Diggy Mike??? :D
Glad for you anyway :)The exact text message from a very happy Al :
Turin set. How happy are we?
Crystal Regret Love Vigilantes Krafty Transmish Atmosphere EVERYTHING'S GONE GREEN!! WFTSC Toothache BLT (after TF!) LWTUA Temptation
Encore
KW1 She's Lost Control Blue Monday
Spotnick wrote: Problem is.. how the hell will you sell copies of WFTSC if you only play 2 songs out of it?
Nic, seriously, do you really think that sales are made by people who see NO at few festivals and then run to music stores for a CD? Besides if a person is new to NO, he/she hardly can tell whether they are playing "new" songs or old. Well maybe some of them do rush in to stores afterwards and buy... Substance 
Bands that tour sell records. Simple band economics. That's why bands tour "in support of the new album." Bands tour, stations play the music, fans buy the records.
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Spotnick wrote: Problem is.. how the hell will you sell copies of WFTSC if you only play 2 songs out of it?
Nic, seriously, do you really think that sales are made by people who see NO at few festivals and then run to music stores for a CD? Besides if a person is new to NO, he/she hardly can tell whether they are playing "new" songs or old. Well maybe some of them do rush in to stores afterwards and buy... Substance
Substance is a little outdated though these days.
I know it's a great album, but there are tons of good material post 1987...
;)
To be honest, I enjoyed the show, but I got 4 WFTSC tracks... now it's only 2!
Well it's welcome back to the setlist of one old friend, so that's a good start. Thanx for starting to listen to your longer term fans again,guys.
Looks like the best setlist of the tour so far, from Hyde Park, Run Wild and Jetstream for KW1 and EGG I'll take those any day! Substance is a bit outdated but its still the best introduction anyone could have to New Order, and is still probably my most played album. Just wish it would be remastered, the difference on the tracks remastered for Best Of.. and Retro is huge, especially if you listen in on headphones.
Spotnick wrote:
craigy wrote: Excellent news; peed off that they didn't do it at Hyde Park...
Blame the autocue...
But it didn't actually break until LWTUA.
They did the last five songs without it, and EGG was further up the list than that...
Old Blue wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
craigy wrote: Excellent news; peed off that they didn't do it at Hyde Park...
Blame the autocue...
But it didn't actually break until LWTUA.
They did the last five songs without it, and EGG was further up the list than that...
You can't tell me they did Run Wild with the autocue... can you? 
Old Blue wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
craigy wrote: Excellent news; peed off that they didn't do it at Hyde Park...
Blame the autocue...
But it didn't actually break until LWTUA.
They did the last five songs without it, and EGG was further up the list than that...
It was taken OFF the menu and replaced with BEER.
EGG returns !!
Last time I heard that live was at Malvern Winter Gardens in 1742.
Good one to bring back...Good version Al ?
Paul Trowell wrote: EGG returns !!
Last time I heard that live was at Malvern Winter Gardens in 1742.
Good one to bring back...Good version Al ?
Quite short, from what I remember, and nothing particularly 'new' about it (you know, in the same way as they've ruined BLT, Toothache, Touched since the 80's). Brilliant to hear it again (my last time was Oxford 86, I think??)
Spotnick wrote: Problem is.. how the hell will you sell copies of WFTSC if you only play 2 songs out of it?
If they are going to play anything off WFTSC it should be GUILT IS A USELESS EMOTION... What is going on? Krafty is the second best track, WFTSC is in the bottom 25% of the new album's tracks and J-E-T... I have brainwashed myself into loving it, but I hold my tongue...
Why are they ignoring GUILT? WHY??
P.S. EGG and Temptation are like twin siblings (but not identical) I love them both (with ease) and it would be magnificent to see the two segue together live...
craigy wrote:
Spotnick wrote: Problem is.. how the hell will you sell copies of WFTSC if you only play 2 songs out of it?
If they are going to play anything off WFTSC it should be GUILT IS A USELESS EMOTION... What is going on? Krafty is the second best track, WFTSC is in the bottom 25% of the new album's tracks and J-E-T... I have brainwashed myself into loving it, but I hold my tongue...
Why are they ignoring GUILT? WHY??
They're ignoring Guilt because, er, it's shit. WFTSC is the standout track on the album, imho, and the next single. QED: They play it.
Funny but we wait 18 years for Everything's Gone Green to reappear and then some cnuts start whinging cos they're not seguing into Temptation! Only on neworderline, eh?!!
Al Jarvis wrote:
craigy wrote:
Spotnick wrote: Problem is.. how the hell will you sell copies of WFTSC if you only play 2 songs out of it?
If they are going to play anything off WFTSC it should be GUILT IS A USELESS EMOTION... What is going on? Krafty is the second best track, WFTSC is in the bottom 25% of the new album's tracks and J-E-T... I have brainwashed myself into loving it, but I hold my tongue...
Why are they ignoring GUILT? WHY??
They're ignoring Guilt because, er, it's shit. WFTSC is the standout track on the album, imho, and the next single. QED: They play it.
Funny but we wait 18 years for Everything's Gone Green to reappear and then some cnuts start whinging cos they're not seguing into Temptation! Only on neworderline, eh?!!
Guilt is 'shit'? What UFO have you alighted from? You may think WFTSC is 'better'; that's OK, but to call Guilt 'shit' is slighty plotless...
And we're not 'whinging' 'cnuts' (gosh what a clever order of letters!) - it's just that EGG and Temptation are very snug bedfellows and it's a clever arty thing to give us a double burst of joy by melding them together.
Or could it be that you just attack anything I type for the sheer hell of it?
craigy wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
craigy wrote:
Spotnick wrote: Problem is.. how the hell will you sell copies of WFTSC if you only play 2 songs out of it?
If they are going to play anything off WFTSC it should be GUILT IS A USELESS EMOTION... What is going on? Krafty is the second best track, WFTSC is in the bottom 25% of the new album's tracks and J-E-T... I have brainwashed myself into loving it, but I hold my tongue...
Why are they ignoring GUILT? WHY??
They're ignoring Guilt because, er, it's shit. WFTSC is the standout track on the album, imho, and the next single. QED: They play it.
Funny but we wait 18 years for Everything's Gone Green to reappear and then some cnuts start whinging cos they're not seguing into Temptation! Only on neworderline, eh?!!
Guilt is 'shit'? What UFO have you alighted from? You may think WFTSC is 'better'; that's OK, but to call Guilt 'shit' is slighty plotless...
And we're not 'whinging' 'cnuts' (gosh what a clever order of letters!) - it's just that EGG and Temptation are very snug bedfellows and it's a clever arty thing to give us a double burst of joy by melding them together.
Or could it be that you just attack anything I type for the sheer hell of it?
When the fcuk have I ever attacked anything you've said?! Other than the fact you repeatedly bang on about Dawn Z being 5th member of the band?! If you've said it once, you've said it 27,316 times, Craigy! But I've certainly never 'attacked' you over it!
Guilt is shit. I think it's down there with the weakest links on the album. They had the right idea with the Mac Quayle thing, at least that put a rocket up it, but they must prefer the limp-wristed album version which I, personally, think is just sub-PSBs-pap.
And I do geneuinely think people are whinging cnuts if they're gonna moan about EGG being played for the first time since the 80's just cos it's not melded in with Temptation. HAD they have melded it in with Temptation some clever arse would've moaned that they didn't throw 5-8-6 into the mix too. You knows it.
C'mon Jarvo...is it really SHIT??? 
But I do think you have a point...New order could play their entire frigging back catalogue, and somebody would still find something to piss and moan about...
probably that the set lasted TOO long!!! 
FAC103 wrote: C'mon Jarvo...is it really SHIT???
Yes, it is. 
Although the Mac Quayle thing is a corker.
But they obviously prefer the sh1te version, which is a shame, else why put it on the original WFTSC?!
Anyways, this thread was supposed to be about EGG, which is infinitely better than either version of Guilt. And still sounds good, even if they're not seguing it into Temptation any more. And even if Barney and Hooky have put on weight since the 80's. And got older (how dare they?). And Gillian's not there anymore. And you can't get pissed for under a tenner on a Saturday night nowadays. Etc, et cetera.
