http://wuboy.com/songs/new%20order/
interesting listening to it now to see howmuch they played around with the sound of the songs then, different guitar/ keys/ bass parts etc
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It would be nice if they did that stuff with the new songs, if they did I definently think they would really come to life.
At the end of True Faith when Barney says "Don't believe what you read in the papers", is that a reference to rumors they were breaking up?
LE Roberts wrote: At the end of True Faith when Barney says "Don't believe what you read in the papers", is that a reference to rumors they were breaking up?
Well at first everyone thought it was that... Then as New Order actually broke up (or kinda) we realised that the paper lie was the Electronic new single coming out soon in 1993. Infact the lazy bastard (Bernard!!) let us in waiting for the Electronic call for 3 years!!!
Bye, Manuel (Posting again before 2009)
LE Roberts wrote: At the end of True Faith when Barney says "Don't believe what you read in the papers", is that a reference to rumors they were breaking up?
I believe it was another reference to Jikel Macson.
thanks for the link hibster
forgot if I have this gig already but my collection is back in Cahleefornya
thank you much, i didn't have it and they sound great. bernard sounds relaxed with his voice and in control of it being in tune.
wish there was dream attack on there, which i think they did play just after regret and before round & round.
LE Roberts wrote:
I believe it was another reference to Jikel Macson.
Can you clue me in to who that is?
Swap the initials around. ;) Bloke who's been in court a lot recently.
Thanks to hibster from me too, great stuff. 
wish there was dream attack on there, which i think they did play just after regret and before round & round.
Any truth to this, Hibster? Can one be found from this gig?
On my video of the gig 'Dream Attack' is indeed performed after 'Regret' and before 'Round and 'Round'. It occurs just after the infamous 'or maybe everyone's out of tune with me' jibe at the rest of the band.
It was missed from the BBC recording (or the 'Electronic Ecstacy' bootleg if you prefer) and the 'In Concert - New Rock' CDs.
...hmm - I got a sbd. recording from that gig (with all songs) - have offered that to the german order; ohh, and I got an full audience recording too... 
Old Blue wrote: It's also missing Bizarre Love Triangle between Toothache and Temptation...
...indeedly - but not for me !... 
NEW ORDER
LIVE @ THE READING FESTIVAL, ENGLAND, Sunday 29th August 1993
COMPLETE SOUNDBOARD RECORDING
At the time, this gig was regarded by many as New Order’s swansong; the fact that a good proportion of the audience thought this might be the group’s last-ever gig added a special frisson and atmosphere for those of us who were there. Basically it’s the same set as the rest of the (fraught)’93 tour but with, I think, a bit of extra fire.
The show was broadcast in part by the BBC and other networks round the world. However, this BBC CD, taken straight from a broadcast quality CD (complete with reference to a certain pop star currently undergoing a court case for offences relating to children faded out!) is the complete show with all the songs in the right order. “BLT” and “Dream Attack” are particularly rare, not appearing on the well-known “Electronic Ecstasy” boot, and will probably not have been heard in this quality before.
This is, as far as I know, the first time the complete show* has been distributed, and it’s a cracker. Sound quality is superb. I’ve done absolutely nothing to the files at all, figuring that if it’s good enough for Auntie, it don’t need no fiddlin’ about with.
All in all, one of my favourite-ever NO gigs.
(*the only bit that are missing are a few short bits of between-song “banter” )
...this above text was written by the originator of the outbrought record, but who was it ?...
Tracklist:
- RUINED IN A DAY
- REGRET
- DREAM ATTACK
- ROUND AND ROUND
- WORLD
- AS IT IS WHEN IT WAS
- EVERYONE EVERYWHERE
- TRUE FAITH
- BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE
- TEMPTATION
- THE PERFECT KISS
- FINE TIME
- BLUE MONDAY
How do you save it?
-Saviour- Could you give me some advice please? ;)
conor.mcgowan@gmail.com
...savioured on CD at last; it was a classic gig and a classic weed once (no-no mp3 !); I laid soft touched hands on the recording; it runs 73 mins; and it could get a neo-classic weed, couldn't it ?...
w/ou a doubt, an outstanding gig in every respect. i dont think they have played better than that on any concert performance i have heard. certainly trashes anything for the last 2 tours.
Old Blue wrote: It's also missing Bizarre Love Triangle between Toothache and Temptation...
no it isn't!
this is electronic ecstacy i believe. i just found the link - have nothing to do with it being on line!
Has anyone got an mp3 of Dream Attack from this concert. I've been wanting it for ages
Cheers
...a classical weed then - ehh ?...
...so, the first two, who drop me a line, will get it...
...but firstly, I go into the weekend !... 
...and have a look into the weeding section...
Still don't understand why everyone's bigging up this gig? It was a tame affair from memory. Not a good year for New Order at all. Who cares if it's note perfect? The whole set doesn't even pick up pace until the final 4 songs. Regret hadn't gone down in folklore then and was just a nice new tune, and the rest of the openers are rather MOR by New Order's standards.
Give me New Order in 2005 any day of the week, with the likes of Crystal, Vigilantes and Transmish over Round & Round, World and Dream Attack!
And as for people complaining about today's setlists ... try comparing this one to the US tour they'd just undertaken!
The "Don't believe what you read in the papers" was nothing to do with Jackson, it was in reference to New Order's 'split' rumours. So, of course, Barney is actually 'fibbing' cos it was just about a done deal there and then.
As an interesting aside, this was also the night the South Bank Show decided to broadcast NewOrderStory for the very first time ... and where were all New Order fans that night?! Doh!
hibster wrote:
Old Blue wrote: It's also missing Bizarre Love Triangle between Toothache and Temptation...
no it isn't!
Not wishing to be argumentative, but yes it is!!
Just got this on the PC. Its a great gig recording. For those of us not lucky enough to be around back in the day - this sounds real good now.
The Intro to Ruined in a Day is fantastic.
I'm going to have to agree with Conor on this one...
it sounds FAN-FOOKING-TASTIC...
might not have been a great gig to attend, but all these years later, it's quite nice to hear...TPK...some stuff from Technique...ahhhh....
A few Points on this gig>
- It is excellent. Ruined in a Day, World, and Everyone Everywhere sound fantastic - much better than they did on Republic.
- How come they sounded so good, even though they werent getting along. Usually if bands arent talking, they sound shit - regardless of how much touring they have just done. Think of Squire and Brown jacking up their own amps in some sort of competition. NewOrder sound fantastic in this gig. Its amazing to think it was meant to be thier last, and was recorded after such harsh words between parties.
- In the Lyric to TrueFaith, there are 2 bits blocked out - were they relating to Michael Jackson - along the lines of "When I was a very small boyMichael Jackson Played with me" - but blocked from the BBC broadcast?
Al Jarvis wrote: Still don't understand why everyone's bigging up this gig? It was a tame affair from memory. Not a good year for New Order at all. Who cares if it's note perfect? The whole set doesn't even pick up pace until the final 4 songs. Regret hadn't gone down in folklore then and was just a nice new tune, and the rest of the openers are rather MOR by New Order's standards.
Give me New Order in 2005 any day of the week, with the likes of Crystal, Vigilantes and Transmish over Round & Round, World and Dream Attack! And as for people complaining about today's setlists ... try comparing this one to the US tour they'd just undertaken! The "Don't believe what you read in the papers" was nothing to do with Jackson, it was in reference to New Order's 'split' rumours. So, of course, Barney is actually 'fibbing' cos it was just about a done deal there and then. As an interesting aside, this was also the night the South Bank Show decided to broadcast NewOrderStory for the very first time ... and where were all New Order fans that night?! Doh!
Some of us were clever enough to set the video timer (Uncly John) 
I see yer argument, but look at it the other way, if the band were getting along and were really into it we'd have seen much more life in the songs(listen to Reading 89 for a band "into" the gig with Technique songs)
Having been at the gig me memory is a little hazy now, but I remember enjoying it enoromously and I couldn't tell that they were hardly talking, cos Barney and Hooky very rarely looked like they were getting on, I do remember Hooky strutting around stage (which was a rarity) after years of Barney doing it. Que Sara Sara at the end always sticks out.....the bastards! ;) I agree with the note perfect part, they were like that on a lot of that tour espescially the Montreux Festival.
I was at Reading 93 too.Was that firework that shot into the sky at the end of Perfect Kiss part of the show or just coincidental?.It closed quite well the performance.That was the last time the played TPK yeah?.
I set my video to record the South Bank show but when i got home the next day the recording had messed up and it was pretty much just a snowy picture with fuzzy sound
.Had to wait months for it to come out on Video NewOrderStory before i could see it.
Still have the tape from the Radio 1 edited broadcast which was aired about a month later.Gonna dig it out and listen again sometime.
shit, my friend had to take down the reading 93 mp3's because it ate up all our bandwidth. it was only intended for a couple of people, and it got out of hand with multiple mp3 blogs linking to it. we didnt realize it til we got a notice from our host a couple of days ago. :(
edit: ha, that's why my avatar doesn't show up.
Could someone please put up the missing tracks. I never knew there were missing tracks on the Electronic Ecstasy CD. Shame indeed.
InTheComputer... wrote: shit, my friend had to take down the reading 93 mp3's because it ate up all our bandwidth. it was only intended for a couple of people, and it got out of hand with multiple mp3 blogs linking to it. we didnt realize it til we got a notice from our host a couple of days ago. :(
edit: ha, that's why my avatar doesn't show up.
shit man 
Johnny wrote: listen to Regret from that gig and then a 2005 performance.It was so much better in 93:(
So true!!!!
It was a good gig but vocals were suspiciously perfect. It was at this gig I discovered the ingredients for the biggest headache man can have.
Poppers + Stella + Standing in front of big fook off speakers. 
Barney Army wrote: It was a good gig but vocals were suspiciously perfect. It was at this gig I discovered the ingredients for the biggest headache man can have.
Poppers + Stella + Standing in front of big fook off speakers.
Just reminded me I had a bottle of poppers, as well. Went to London the day before and bought it in Soho and a Boys Own t-shirt from Old Compton St. Went to the club night at Rivermead centre and we kipped on an inflatable mattress in the back of my Astra.
Best gig I've ever been to.
Poppers and Stella???!!!??? Shurely shome mishtake....????
Yes, they do sound very professional, and as that show was only my second ever NO gig (and my first as a fully paid-up fan) I remember thinking it was fantastic at the time, though knowledge gained since has tainted it somewhat in me memory. Definitely a weird audience atmosphere (kind of mournfully defiant, if that makes any sense), lots of cries of "sell out!!" (around me, at least), and Barmney flashed me an this other lad an absolutely filthy fucking look when we both shouted for "Ceremony" between tunes. Also recall Jong Peel reiviewing the festival in the Guardian early the next week and saying that, against all his expectations it was probably the best Reading Festival show he'd ever seen. Go figure.
Was my first New Order gig so I wont hear a bad word said against it 
Yea so the songs they perform now probably translate better live, but who cares it was my first gig and most eagerly anticipated gig ive even been to :D and therefore will never be bettered in my opinion
...to whom it may concern: three discs with 14 songs 
on it were leaving my place today,...
...for all others - please read the rules here: http://www.neworderonline.com/Forums/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=11180
cheers,
Barney Army wrote: It was a good gig but vocals were suspiciously perfect. It was at this gig I discovered the ingredients for the biggest headache man can have.
Poppers + Stella + Standing in front of big fook off speakers.
SURELY WERE NOT SUGGESTING THEY WERE PRE-RECORDED VOCALS? DONT THINK BARNEY COULD EVEN SOUND SO GOOD IN THE STUDIO! (MAKES YA WONDER THOUGH?
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Poppers and Stella???!!!??? Shurely shome mishtake....????
Dead fookin right mate, one not to be repeated
...to whom it may concern: three discs with 14 songs on it were leaving my place today,...
I'd love to have the full gig, as well, if I'm not on this list (don't think so). Let me know what information to provide if anyone can accommodate. Thanks.
Johnny wrote: listen to Regret from that gig and then a 2005 performance.It was so much better in 93:(
I still like his voice, but it was better back then.
LE Roberts wrote:
...to whom it may concern: three discs with 14 songs on it were leaving my place today,...
I'd love to have the full gig, as well, if I'm not on this list (don't think so). Let me know what information to provide if anyone can accommodate. Thanks.
G'day !
...as you have posted more than 500 times here, you should have having access to the 'weeding forum' of NOOL, there you can find the weeding rules...
...for this one, there were three persons, who dropped me a direct line (sent me an email) for a special request to copy this gig for them; when they have received it, they'll reply in the 'weeding forum' similar as: 'copy here - two more by request' - or you can ask for it in the 'weeding forum' - I'm sure, someone will help you out; and when you have received your copy, make sure, that you'll help out sombody who ask for it !...
...weeding is an important part for the success of the NOOL family !...
cheers, The Saviour.
Al Jarvis wrote: Still don't understand why everyone's bigging up this gig? It was a tame affair from memory. Not a good year for New Order at all. Who cares if it's note perfect? The whole set doesn't even pick up pace until the final 4 songs. Regret hadn't gone down in folklore then and was just a nice new tune, and the rest of the openers are rather MOR by New Order's standards.
even if that was true (which it isn't, as regret , round and round and as it is and when it was, are performed as well as i have ever heard them), the last 4 tracks on their own would make this boot mandatory listening.
anyone who believes that this is anything other than the finest live document that new order have produced needs their head testing.
King Eric wrote: Has anyone got an mp3 of Dream Attack from this concert. I've been wanting it for ages
Cheers
What's ur email addy?
Not a classic gig by new order's standards. Historically worthwile listening though. Barney was in a foul mood all the way through. Technical problems. Hooky's drum pads didnt work on BM. Perfect Kiss was shorn of its classic intro (Barney's doing?). I think the fans knew it was the last gig and they wouldnt be be the same band again. People even stopped dancing during blue monday around me. I do remember my friends who hadnt seen them before thinking they were amazing but for those of us who had seen the reading 89 gig it was clear that this was not vintage stuff. 'Que sera sera' at the end was not lost on us either.
The_Other_Two wrote:
Johnny wrote: listen to Regret from that gig and then a 2005 performance.It was so much better in 93:(
I still like his voice, but it was better back then.
Sounds like he is singing over a tape in Regret @ Reading 93. Two voices definitely.
Has anyone posted BLT or Dream Attack yet?
redeyedboy wrote:
King Eric wrote: Has anyone got an mp3 of Dream Attack from this concert. I've been wanting it for ages
Cheers
What's ur email addy?
King Eric, did you ever get my mail back in July? Didn't receive a reply off you.
