Was Temptation the second ever Indie record???

and if LWTUA was'nt the first ever indie record...What do the Wank-faced Journalists,Barney refers to at Hyde park say was the first

Well, I find it funny he says that sense I thought that they had a few before that including transmission, Ceremony, Atmosphere, etc. Are they not indie records?

Anything by Factory. Virgin used to be an independant, when did Tubular Bells come out. I'm sure there must have been a few indi/self pulished records even before Factory, just can't be bothered to do the research righ now.

Also see Rough Trade.

Has no one ever heard of taking the piss?

he was having a crack at all the media lining up to suck them off and proclaim them the inventors of everything (which is clearly OUR job).

I really do despair sometimes

Ok what else did New Order "invent"?

punk techno rap hip hop disco house electronic music

I think Barney was joking when he said that.

Simple answer; no.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Ok what else did New Order "invent"?

punk techno rap hip hop disco house electronic music

also

trip hop dub acid bass telephones remote controls the clapper MP3s cruise control

Steve Campbell wrote: Has no one ever heard of taking the piss?

he was having a crack at all the media lining up to suck them off and proclaim them the inventors of everything (which is clearly OUR job).

I really do despair sometimes

Don't despair...just a bit of crac!:D

I think the first indie record is the Spiral Scratch EP by the Buzzcocks, produced by 'Martin Zero'

Fuck off Joe, no one wants to hear sense :D

i believe loretta lynn's first single, honky tonk girl, was pretty darn indie. :D

AgentWood wrote: i believe loretta lynn's first single, honky tonk girl, was pretty darn indie. :D

As were lots of early rock 'n' roll records before that, some of that Sun Records stuff sold a copy or two, I think (according to my dad anyway....;) ).