Pilgrimmage to Manchester

I am an Aussie NO devotee who is in Europe on holiday at the moment and I have the chance to visit Manchester next week for a day or two. I´m hoping one of the locals might be able to tell me if there are any NO attractions worth visiting to take the shape of what I would term a 'pilgrimmage'. I guess places like the Hacienda and Factory Records sites are obvious shrines, but are the any other places of interest worth paying homage to and if so, could someone offer some rough directions (i.e are they in the centre of town or fringes?). Also, are there any good record/clothing shops worth checking out in Manchester that might contain collectibles such as posters, t-shirts, records etc? Your help is greatly appreciated! DR

I hope the UK contingent answers, I'd be interested in their recommendations as well, I'll be there too in a couple of weeks.

a few randon suggestions, the site of the Hacienda, and dry bar too palatine road strawberry studios in stockport (is that even still there, does anyone know/?) Ian memorial in Macclesfield- if you are interested in JD they are also nmentioned a couple of times in the punk exhibition at Urbis. there is a video installion, with Hooky and Tony Wilson among others, remembering the sex pistols gig at the lesser free trade er i'll think about it a bit more but its my bedtime now

just thought of another- cosgrove hall!

just thought of another- cosgrove hall!

The Hacienda, of course, no longer exists, but the block of apartments does (also called the Hacienda) in it's place (just round the corner from the Bridgewater Hall).

TBH, apart from the site of the old Factory HQ (and there's probably not much there?), there's not much else that I can think of...

Of course, I may have forgotten obvious places to visit?

As for record shops, take a trip to Oldham Street - loads down there including Vinyl Exchange, Picadilly (Oldham Street also includes the Dry Bar). Just round the corner from Oldham Street is Hilton Street - a record shop called 'Vinyl Revival' which has a fair few Factory t-shirts and posters in stock (although not much vinyl, TBH).

HTH :)

A big welcome to ya. Do you work for the ABC? Anyway good to see you saw them in the Horden as well.

From what I hear there's not a lot left of the early JD/NO history in terms of sites. I believe you can still see Ian Curtis' old house, as well as his grave site.

Hmmm, I'll be there myself in a month.

Have a look at http://members.aol.com/lwtua/places.htm as something to consult if time permits, although I think some of the stuff is a little outdated, it could still be useful. Cheers anyway and welcome CTB

i'd agree about oldham street for record shops and dry bar. actually,if you want to eat cheap i'd recommend the buffet city chinese at bottom of portland street.60 dishes all you can eat buffet-cheap as fuck.enjoy your trip

Don't forget your brolley!

Was in Afflecks Palace at weekend. (Go to top of Market St, and hang a left by the stalls). Picked up some tee shirts to replace old uns. All NO, Roses, Mondays, Carpets and a smashin' New FADS. AAAHHHHH! Them were't days.

actually RAIN BAR at the back of what used to be hacienda is built on the site of the long gone brolley factory.hence the name rain bar WHAT A PIECE OF USELESS IMFORMATION THAT IS

I am from Helsinki, Finland. Last year I visited in Manchester.

It was then when there was The Peter Saville Show in Urbis.I don’t know is there still Peter Saville staff or any New Order Peter Saville Show- soundtracks left in Urbis shop. Then there was also New Order books, post cards and T-shirts on sale.

My hotel was on the other side of the canal than Hacienda. It is not the original Hacienda, but they have retained details from original, text typies, yellow and black industrial stripes etc. There is a big Hacienda text in front door. I saw the Factory HQ building. There is still Factory sign left.

I also took the train to beautiful little town, Macclesfield. On the way to Macclesfield cemetary I saw the King’s school attended by Ian Curtis and Stephen Morris. On the cemetory I found Ian Curtis’ memorial stone with words Love will tear us apart. I also visited 77 Barton Street,where is the home of Ian and Deborah Curtis during the Joy Division era, where Ian did much of his writing, and where he died.

There's always the Band on the Wall for a pint of Holt's, isn't there?

i think band on the wall had some trouble with its license or something, shame. a few more suggestions: gmex, music box, electric circus, royce road getting drunk, a lot! whereabouts are you staying david?

Of course, the main manchester attraction is myself

be sure to check out some of the local music scene. ACR are playing at the moorfest a week on saturday so theres something sort of New Order related.

Dont bother going to macclesfield, theres nothing there apart from a grave.

Uncle Liam wrote: Of course, the main manchester attraction is myself

be sure to check out some of the local music scene. ACR are playing at the moorfest a week on saturday so theres something sort of New Order related.

Dont bother going to macclesfield, theres nothing there apart from a grave.

and of course if they need a niteclub,i am sure they could consult a certain 'MR 5th avenue'

Absolutely. I'll be in there on 18th August, getting very drunk and 'dancing' very badly.

This bloke is a cricket fan

well sussed!!

Rain Bar is v overpriced and full of office workers....The Briton's Protection, just along the road (Ian Curtis ventured there, so I'm told) is a beautifully preserved old pub with friendly atmos, decent beers and staff etc. Also nearby is the Peveril Of The Peak - all I can say about this place is it is 'unique.' Make of that what you will. I love it.

lowlife wrote: Rain Bar is v overpriced and full of office workers....The Briton's Protection, just along the road (Ian Curtis ventured there, so I'm told) is a beautifully preserved old pub with friendly atmos, decent beers and staff etc. Also nearby is the Peveril Of The Peak - all I can say about this place is it is 'unique.' Make of that what you will. I love it.

ive been in that perviral of the peak--emmm HISTORIC,is that another word for it.i liked it too lowlife.all them little rooms,just like the old days.brit protection is a smashing pub.

cricket,yea next thursday,well spotted salford blue

Britons Protection is one of the finest examples of a classic British boozer in Manchester. Famous for it's massive selction of whiskeys.

Me, I prefer quantity to quality when it comes to alcofuel so I'll be the one guzzling shite australian lager....singing Ceremony with the Luddite Order (non net connected manc order)

This is why events unnerve me...hic

places I would recommend are

Corbieres on Police st, just off st annes square. for one of the best juke boxes in town.

as somebody has said the oldham st Tib st area, for some cool bars, afflecks palace and of course Dry Bar for the NO connection. (but just be careful about which bars you go in around there because some of them are dog rough)

go to Rusholme for a curry

and get a ticket for a CITY game

since this pilgrimage has decided to rebrand itself as a pub crawl i am going to applaud the suggestions above and also recommend the sinc for the cheapest pints in town. where is david rowlands anyway?

lucy anna wrote: since this pilgrimage has decided to rebrand itself as a pub crawl i am going to applaud the suggestions above and also recommend the sinc for the cheapest pints in town. where is david rowlands anyway?

dont know where david rowlands is but this virtual pub crawl is getting good wetherspoons on princess street does a really cheap double havanna club and pepsi-yummy

by the way,is anyone still going to go to that 'neworderdisco' in manchester on sept 9th? i am going to be there with my girlfriend

Granada studios, get abit of corrie down ya!

Don't waste yer time David, it will only rain

Digital Mike Binoche wrote: Don't waste yer time David, it will only rain

should get himself down pride park shouldn't he.

I'm concerned about the original poster- perhaps he got lost in the moon under water- let everyone know what you thought of your trip to the rainy city!

lucy anna wrote: I'm concerned about the original poster- perhaps he got lost in the moon under water- let everyone know what you thought of your trip to the rainy city!

well ive got lost in moon under water,what's that upstairs bit all about?? dont worry about david,he's obviously long gone