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jesse steichen wrote: 3)if you need to sign in before posting, the system puts you back to the home page... then you have to come back and find the thread, find the post you wanted to quote, etc. big waste of time. very frustrating. sometimes i want to post, but because of that, i just dont. is there a good reason for this? something that can be done about it?
i'd ask this on the tech forum. more 'tech' people might notice it there and you'd get a faster answer.
Turn being a single may have had something to do with all of our bitching and moaning. "Oh, they already said at the press conference there will only be three singles." Shut up know-it-all British people. Naysayers be damned. The truth is out there.
jesse steichen wrote: 3)if you need to sign in before posting, the system puts you back to the home page... then you have to come back and find the thread, find the post you wanted to quote, etc. big waste of time. very frustrating. sometimes i want to post, but because of that, i just dont. is there a good reason for this? something that can be done about it?
I don't even remember the last time I saw the logon prompt on NOOL... have you checked the box to do the autologin?
As I now own every song as far as I'm aware... what's the point in getting this new singles compilation?? Unless there are some hidden gems i.e. alternative versions, stuff like that. I doubt it very much. I'd probably never have complained about such a compilation if 'THe Best Of', and 'International' hadn't been released in the first place. :\ohwell:
I'm really surprised this is coming out in the UK. Really don't see why the record company couldn't just hang on for another year until the next album is out. What they're claiming will be a "definitive" collection will be out of date in less than a year. If they're using the single mixes, there'll be tons of space for another four singles in a year to 18 month's time.
Hey, Spotnick, can't you ask Warner/London to give us the full list of tracks with details of which mixes they're using, so we're not all pulling our hair out for two months wondering if we'll finally get the vinyl 7 inches on CD? Surely someone there must know whcih mixes have been remastered and pulled from the archives??? Can't help but think this'll be 'Substance' plus the recent single versions... Someone tell us for good, and put me out of my misery. Surely by now they at least know the track running times of this comp??
Andy
Mr Discography wrote: I'm really surprised this is coming out in the UK. Really don't see why the record company couldn't just hang on for another year until the next album is out. What they're claiming will be a "definitive" collection will be out of date in less than a year. If they're using the single mixes, there'll be tons of space for another four singles in a year to 18 month's time.
I'd like to remind you that International was never released in the UK... all copies you might have seen art imports. (sure, all CDs are from Germany anyways, but it's a Warner France product)
Hey, Spotnick, can't you ask Warner/London to give us the full list of tracks with details of which mixes they're using, so we're not all pulling our hair out for two months wondering if we'll finally get the vinyl 7 inches on CD? Surely someone there must know whcih mixes have been remastered and pulled from the archives??? Can't help but think this'll be 'Substance' plus the recent single versions... Someone tell us for good, and put me out of my misery. Surely by now they at least know the track running times of this comp?? Andy
I'm working on it, got that press release today, that's a start.
DShamen wrote: As I now own every song as far as I'm aware... what's the point in getting this new singles compilation?? Unless there are some hidden gems i.e. alternative versions, stuff like that. I doubt it very much. I'd probably never have complained about such a compilation if 'THe Best Of', and 'International' hadn't been released in the first place. :\ohwell:
What was the point of Depeche Mode releasing "The Singles 86>98" in 1998?
Same thing here!
International was the useless release... this one is a real one.
Unless you bought the recent CD singles with 2 tracks only on them, you don't have the single version of all tracks.
And there might be a few that were never released on single, and many will probably be remastered.
Just fukkin release GUILT for Heaven's sake
Turn is not worth wasting on a single's release
There better be some damn good remixes on it if it does get released.
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((((e)))) wrote: Just fukkin release GUILT for Heaven's sake
Turn is not worth wasting on a single's release
There better be some damn good remixes on it if it does get released.
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Remixes of Turn? You're having a laugh!
NObabe wrote:
((((e)))) wrote: Just fukkin release GUILT for Heaven's sake
Turn is not worth wasting on a single's release
There better be some damn good remixes on it if it does get released.
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Remixes of Turn? You're having a laugh!
I'm trying to remain positive but since I just listened to it again it is actually possible.
I mean look at JETSTREAM...How horrible was that track until it was remixed...It was originally pure shit in my opinion.
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IMHO, you're getting carried away with this singles matter: the fact that it's called "Singles" (well, doh...) does not mean that we will have the original 7" versions we're all craving for, but just, well, every single New Order has released so far in the versions we all have in the other 387 compilations!
Monsieur Round & Round wrote: IMHO, you're getting carried away with this singles matter: the fact that it's called "Singles" (well, doh...) does not mean that we will have the original 7" versions we're all craving for, but just, well, every single New Order has released so far in the versions we all have in the other 387 compilations!
I also think we'll be disappointed if we think it will contain those mixes ;)
I'll believe it when it'll be in my hands!
I personnally won't buy it as I have everything but it's a good buy for someone who doesn't.
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this is so weird, the new order dvd "item" on amazon.co.uk is different from the us version, weird
Richie Soans wrote: this is so weird, the new order dvd "item" on amazon.co.uk is different from the us version, weird
Only trust the US listing on the Rhino website I posted on another thread (and which is the 2nd main news here).. that's the definitive one as the US is the mastermind of this project.
Does anyone else think this release schedule is one almighty mess?
Who says the Factory ethos is dead?
Janezki wrote: If it should be a definitive collection of all their singles, why is Murder not included?
Because Murder wasn't a single in the UK... 
Only in Belgium!
Maybe the couple of Turn petitions we held on here were noticed by the Management. The major plus point will be to hear Turn live when they promote it. If so TOTP will probably be mimed but something like Jonathan Ross (If they could stand being in that mans company again) may see a live rendition before the next batch of gigs.
My dream has come true!!!! Turn!!!! I always thought Turn was one of their top 3 songs ever made. So to all you Guilt fans out there Ah Ah 
I hope this isn't a mean joke by the band.
As for not play the song live, I can see why, there is alot of guitars in the song, and Barney most likely is having trouble with it. But who knows maybe it will show up in the next tour? Just like Run wild did.
By the time Turn comes out, the first single for the next cd should be due a couple months later. Maybe we will have no wait between cds!!!
redeyedboy wrote: Maybe the couple of Turn petitions we held on here were noticed by the Management. The major plus point will be to hear Turn live when they promote it. If so TOTP will probably be mimed but something like Jonathan Ross (If they could stand being in that mans company again) may see a live rendition before the next batch of gigs.
Just hang on there a cotton pickin' minute...
I can't bloody find it now; but I did a thread... 'what should the next single be off WFTSC after the WFTSC single' and GUILT WON. TURN WAS IN 2ND PLACE!
What a waste of time...
next question would be: those are edits or 7"? i´m afraid TF94, 1963-94, R&R94 and BLT94 will show their faces one more time. hope not, i´d prefer the 7"s
Spotnick wrote:
Mr Discography wrote: I'm really surprised this is coming out in the UK. Really don't see why the record company couldn't just hang on for another year until the next album is out. What they're claiming will be a "definitive" collection will be out of date in less than a year. If they're using the single mixes, there'll be tons of space for another four singles in a year to 18 month's time.
I'd like to remind you that International was never released in the UK... all copies you might have seen art imports. (sure, all CDs are from Germany anyways, but it's a Warner France product)
Yeah, I knew that. Not relevant to the point I was making though. They could just hang on until maybe this time next year and release a "more" definitive collection - especially if there won't be another new album for a couple of years after next year's one comes out.
I've a feeling we won't see a brand new album next year, after all...
Andy
almansoglasnost wrote: next question would be: those are edits or 7"? i´m afraid TF94, 1963-94, R&R94 and BLT94 will show their faces one more time. hope not, i´d prefer the 7"s
Well, that press release says: The only way to own all the tracks on Singles would be to have purchased every New Order single released in their career. So, going on that it should be all the original single versions (or 12" versions in some cases perhaps). Surely if 'Item' is coming out, it will correspond with the single versions featured in the videos, more or less - much as the DVD and CD of PSB's 'PopArt' did, albeit with a different running order?
We shall see!
Andy
I just hope we finally get the orignal 'Ceremony' on CD at long bloody last. If they are definitely sticking with 7" versions, it has to be the original, as the re-recorded one only came out on 12".
I dare say there will be a sense of disappointment from the moment the first track plays and it's the one we've had on CDs loads of times.
Actually, I prefer the second version, but it'll just make a great change to hear the original on CD for once!
Andy
Spotnick wrote:
Drawing from twenty four years worth of remarkable recorded material, ‘Singles’ compiles every single released by the band in chronological order.
Of course, if the initial tracklistings for this album are correct, including the '95 Baker Mix of 1963 after 'True Faith' will mean that, technically, this compilation isn't in chronological order, as it should come after 'Spooky'!
Andy
Mr Discography wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
Drawing from twenty four years worth of remarkable recorded material, ‘Singles’ compiles every single released by the band in chronological order.
Of course, if the initial tracklistings for this album are correct, including the '95 Baker Mix of 1963 after 'True Faith' will mean that, technically, this compilation isn't in chronological order, as it should come after 'Spooky'!
Andy
I would have a theory, but that theory is blown away by Blue Monday-88, so I'll pass.
It doesn't make sense, but that's the way it is, I guess they prefered to have it there than to split the Republic singles.
And we all know the band wanted it to be released in 1987, so...
What doesn't make sense to me is the omission of Blue Monday 95 and True Faith 94... although in TF's case, the single version is almost identical to the original, they couldn't include the perfecto edit in there.
As for Blue Monday, I'm not sure there was a non promo single version
For the rest, if the press release is true, I'd expect Ceremony 7" version... but again, it's New Order, so I expect to have some kind of disappointment...
Richard Latanville wrote: I am glad Turn i son there instead of Guilt, I will scream if Guilt is a single
Scream then!!
lol
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OVER THE MOON that turn is to be a single - the best NO song off the past two albums. Surely they'll have success with that one - can wait for it to be played live!
