WFTSC Video

Just saw that NME.com has the WFTSC video available for viewing. I can't do it at work, but hopefully later tonight. Looking forward to seeing what this one looks like....

Who's Joe?

Couldn't see it...

After clicking on the link all you get is

"AVAILABLE ONLY AS A 7" SINGLE"

Now seriously, I've seen it...

Not much cop, I'm afraid. Starts with two young kids running from an older man, carrying what appears to be stolen material. One of them gets caught, the other runs away minus the stolen goods. He runs through a small town, untils he reaches a hill, where he stops and picks up a stone from the ground and stares at the bugs that were underneath. He then reaches a highway, to where he spits (nice close up, that one!). Night settles in, and our kid meets some low-lifes (nice pun, eh?). Er, and that's it, basicaly.

Oh, the song is edited, of course. The video is 3.58 minutes long.

Is it just me or does the kid at times look like a younger version of our own Shuggles? Typically boring New Order video, but at the least the kid kept running when the teenybopper girl came on to him (or we would've seen a repeat of the Krafty video). The kid came to a cliff at the end and I was kinda hoping he'd jump a conveniently located wardrobe at the end and gone over the cliff (a la copying the Cure).

http://www.nme.com/features/113614.htm

This looks like a very typical New Order video. Who directed it? Judging by the style of the vid, it could well be Johan Renck again.

Nice vid, but what the f*** has it got to do with the song??

The video is a bit weird, but not bad, not as bad as 1963 vid.

This is the first edit of WFTSC I've heard other than a live one they did on later (I think), it's not too bad as far as edits go, they had to cut it down a bit for a single release, this seems a fair compromise.

Still don't know why they bothered making a video for a release that is only going to appear on 7" single...

Most chart sales come from CD's nowadays, and only the bigger HMV/Virgin stores tend to stock vinyl (together with the small independent CWNN stores)...

Probably only made to include on 'Item'?

utter rubish,this is up there with 1963 as a poor effort,and talk about on the cheap,just continuos shots of some daft taffy twat running aimlessly through fields. did the band ok this??,if they did they want a fucking good kick up the arse.

And the MTV Video Award 2006 goes to...

Would have been better if the young kid jumped off the cliff at the end of the vid!

I could relate to the bit where the teenage girl gives him a come on. Had that a few times when i was a similar age to the kid in the vid .So that was the only bit of the vid that caught me attention.

Quite like the edit of the track.

Would his mum not be worried about him?

Nice video, with the cover of Krafty referenced, and the start seems a pisstake of the video for What Became of the Likely Lads.

Think I'm the only one who enjoyed that video...

WTF? Bring back Saville. A low-key video doesn't have to look like crap.

Jim Bob wrote: Think I'm the only one who enjoyed that video...

I did...But the edit is shit,tho it was to be expected,with it being a long track,MTV time slots an all...The radio edit will be similar, it carves it up a little too much for me...Thanks for the link tho

It's too bad because WFTSC is my favorite track on the album and I was hoping a good video would boost sales/airplay...

That has to be one of the worst videos I've ever seen. It should have been the video for Flock of Seagulls I RAN since that's basically all the kid did. It seemed really ameturish and film school-esque to me. The angles didn't quite match up on the cutting, the film axis was crossed in several places and his running made Cary Grant in NORTH BY NORTHWEST look positively olympian in comparison. Even the shot of the kid drooling off the bridge deserved another take since he couldn't do that properly.

I'm sure there are so many filmmakers who would be interested in working with New Order on a video... Jonathan Demme, Danny Boyle, etc...

I would have loved to have seen a moodier piece with Barney quite literally catching a midnight train, guitar case in hand and sitting and scribbling lyrics and moving through the passengers who are travelling and ending up at his destination alone with no one on the platform to meet him.

Such a beautiful song deserves a really beautiful video... Oh, well... Just my two cents from a disgruntled video watcher.

Spotnick wrote: I thought the band would appear in that video though, that was written in the press article about the shooting...

Yeah ,the band should be shot for vetoing it.

I thought the Krafty vid was quite nice but this new one is just shite. :-(

Ed

Hmmm..something more significant over please...hope they do another video for this song

strike one!

such a good song

They should have done a video with the girl from the 7" cover! :)

Reminds me of the movie "My Private Idaho" by Gus Vant Sant about teenage runaways and it's bleak portrayal- nevertheless- an interesting movie to say the least. And also begs to ask "I don't get it?!"

I like it, I guess it wasn't what I was expecting but NO has always 'walked to their own beat'

Cheers!

What's that cover? Why Temptation on it? Where are the sirens? Why? WHY??? WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?????

thanks for all the reviews of the video here. i abhor videos like that and new order is too good at making these retarded (sorry) videos. i won't even bother cueing it up to watch.

i hate the stupid run video too. really poor try by robert frank IMO.

Yikes. That was disappointing.

Spotnick wrote: Run Forrest Run!!!

while i was watching it i was thinking 'run lola, run!'

Haven't seen it yet. So, I can't comment. Fancy meeting you here.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Haven't seen it yet. So, I can't comment. Fancy meeting you here.

it's been a while since we've spoken. ;)

what haven't you seen: the video or lola rennt?

Wow, it seems all the money collected with the album sellings has gone to this!

AgentWood wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Haven't seen it yet. So, I can't comment. Fancy meeting you here.

it's been a while since we've spoken. ;)

what haven't you seen: the video or lola rennt?

Is it still the same day there?

I haven't seen the vid yet. Not game to download it here.

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Haven't seen it yet. So, I can't comment. Fancy meeting you here.

it's been a while since we've spoken. ;)

what haven't you seen: the video or lola rennt?

Is it still the same day there?

I haven't seen the vid yet. Not game to download it here.

can't download it from work, correct?

AgentWood wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Haven't seen it yet. So, I can't comment. Fancy meeting you here.

it's been a while since we've spoken. ;)

what haven't you seen: the video or lola rennt?

Is it still the same day there?

I haven't seen the vid yet. Not game to download it here.

can't download it from work, correct?

shouldn't. I think I'm stretching the definition of "reasonable internet access" as is.

Patrick Tardif wrote: Hmmm..something more significant over please...hope they do another video for this song

I don't think they can afford another one after investing millions into this one. I wonder if that is an episode out of Barney's and Hooky's youth...

Lazy bastards.

nuts wrote: Would have been better if the young kid jumped off the cliff at the end of the vid!

Preferred this to the Krafty video though. Wonder what the Turn video will be like.

it this the video from Belfast Child or Stand by Me? Not sure yet but i'll find out. What the fuck? Is totally crap. If you run out of ideas bring a dog or some drawings on a book again PLEASE

After this crap i'm really afraid what to expect for Ceremony and Temptation. Please God forgive the director.

Sammy wrote: Reminds me of the movie "My Private Idaho" by Gus Vant Sant about teenage runaways and it's bleak portrayal- nevertheless- an interesting movie to say the least. And also begs to ask "I don't get it?!"

I like it, I guess it wasn't what I was expecting but NO has always 'walked to their own beat'

Cheers!

Just watched the vid-have to agree with Sammy's comments.They've done better, they've done worse. BTW, speaking of Gus Van Sant, has anybody else on here seen Last Days, his recent Cobain-esque effort? I went to see it thanks to Triple J(ABC "yoof" radio network)for nix after logging an entry on thier website. Equal parts tragic and funny.

Spotnick wrote: I thought the band would appear in that video though, that was written in the press article about the shooting...

Back when New Order did really good videos, they would appear in them in minor roles, like a person a street or something. Maybe they make a little cameo in WFTSC?

Spotnick wrote: Bits from the video article:

A teenager from Bridgend is juggling his GCSEs with a starring role in a music video for rock band New Order. Nathan Stadden, 16, a pupil at Ynysawdre School in Tondu, was selected for the leading role in the video by the rock band.

Typical journo, misspelt Sludden.

The WFTSC video I wrote was okay. I prefer it to this.

* Basically, it's a man walking through a seaside village, all the doors are closed, but they always open when he isn't looking. After many attempts, he gives in, and heads for the pier. (My idea was that it would be done at south queensferry, for all you Scots) He steals a boat, and sails out to an island, where he finds a cardboard guitar. Sitting on a cliffside, playing the ending riff, he slowly fades away into the atmosphere*

Well, it's not bad...

Not bad, not great; 6.5 out of ten: Need to engage metaphor circuits.

That poor kid must have been knackered by the end of the shoot!

Spotnick wrote: Run Forrest Run!!!

Now that killed my 2nd joke, this should have been the video for... RUN!

http://www.neworderonline.com/Multimedia/MusicVideo.aspx?MediaID=1219

Enjoy everybody.

i thought it was very forrest Gump as well, they should have had him run Until he was like 40 and his clothes got to small, also not opposed to the idea of him running off of a Cliff at the end. terrible video, still the best track on the Album though

PHD wrote:

nuts wrote: Would have been better if the young kid jumped off the cliff at the end of the vid!

Preferred this to the Krafty video though. Wonder what the Turn video will be like.

I pray to god that they dont make anymore Videos! at least not for this album

Oh comeon guys, this video is much better than 99.9% of whatever is playing today. Let me break it down for you:

It's a video about friendship, materialism, and what's important in this world:

I've got it all Cause you were not the wrong one I don't know where to turn when you're gone When you're gone

That's basically it. The street kids were robbing some goods, but the kid who escaped threw away the one thing that mattered, his friendship with his bud. He sold him out. The rest of the video he's running, trying to come to grips with it all. He got away, he should be happy right? But he's not. He's soulsick, because he's starting to realize what really mattered - his friendship. Without his friend, everything is empty and pointless.

The interesting use of working class poor kids in this video, captures a reality from my own island (Puerto Rico). Kids on the street hang with "friends" getting into trouble, but when the law comes, those that you thought were your friends are not. You get sold out for fear, a couple of dollars, shame, whatever. Kids/people in poverty continue to throw away the only things that make us truly happy. They continue to not "get" what's important.

Goods, material, riches, won't do it, whether you earn them, steal them, or they are bequeathed to you. Your friends and your family in the end are the only ones that matter in this big bad world. The city of New Orleans is finding this out, and I think Waiting for the Siren's Call does an extremely good job of capturing it the way that New Order always does so well.

Bit disappointingly average.

I can sort of see what they were aiming for (theme of travel, going places, seeing things, only in a different context), but that kid pisses me off. I can't say I really like it too much. I wish if they were going to be arty, go all the way (ho HO!) and do something like True Faith, or Fine Time. Either that or do a fairly standard video with a nice twist, like Crystal. Less of this sort of arty but not really arty crap. MORE BRIGHT COLOURS ARE NEEDED. MORE BLUE PEOPLE. etc

Jaime wrote: Oh comeon guys, this video is much better than 99.9% of whatever is playing today. Let me break it down for you:

It's a video about friendship, materialism, and what's important in this world.

That's basically it. The street kids were robbing some goods, but the kid who escaped threw away the one thing that mattered, his friendship with his bud. He sold him out.

i Disagree, it isnt realistic. if the kid that got caught would have told the cops who his friend that got away was, that would be selling out your friend. every street kid knows that if you get caught your on your own and you keep your mouth shut. who goes back and gets arrested? they should have just taken the idea from the cagney movie "angels with dirty faces" cagney got away and it led to a life of crime his friend that got caught(Pat O'Brien) became a priest, and kept his mouth shut and was still a friend to cagney.

The kid whose idea it was to steal the stuff (our protagonist) probably told the other kid it was safe, they wouldn't get caught, and that he'd take care of him. Don't worry, it'll be all right. I've got your back. The other kid was reluctant, but went along with it. Guess what, he got caught, and instead of distracting the cop, trying to help his friend, taking care of him, having planned the operation better, or just turning himself in too, looks at his compatriot and takes off. I'm sure the kid who got caught kept his mouth shut, but if he's like any of the juvenile offenders I've worked with in Puerto Rico over the years, he feels bitter, betrayed, and empty.

This video, I believe (and I could be totally wrong), shows in that split second that the protagonist gets scared and thinks about only himself, how he didn't win, and that he threw it all away. But of course I could be wrong.

Whatever the case, I think it communicates some interesting and confusing realities of our modern age. This one tiny little look into a micro-culture in the UK, yields a particularly large spiritual lesson. I'd say at the very least this video is light years above the belly-button baring garbage played in other venues.

The WFTSC video is ineptitude posing as art. It looks like it took an afternoon to shoot, displays very little talent in design and execution, and means nothing. It looks like a 4 minute episode from some Ken Loach gritty oop-north drama where some snot-nose runs into the hills and carries on for no apparent reason other than to suppose metaphor. Wonderful song, worthless video.

WHAT A DAMN WASTE!!!!

This song deserved one of New Order's best efforts, but instead it ranks among its worst.

O well. Such is life. It's still one of New Order's top 5 songs of all time.

Was Keith Allen filming the band in Ruined in a Day?? help me out

I really like the Ruined in a day video...very natural... can't wait to see it on the Item DVD...

she's so good for a man...a man like me.

I quite like what Jaime has to say. When i first saw the video for Krafty i thought it was totally boring .But then a few weeks later i found myself loving the bit when they escape to the rooftop towards the end of the song becaue its just such a joyous celebration of love and freedom (If there is any love and freedom in this world).So it took me a while to "get" it (im a little slow at times!) and this is what will probably happen for me with this video.Ill watch it in a few weeks and ill love it.POSSIBLY.

p.s and as Jaime siad it`s better than watching all this rap macho posing videos (usually signals a scramble for the remote control anyway when they come on!)

Vids;

Crystal; cack. 60MPH; great. Krafty; great. J-E-T; cack. WFTSC; cack.

So maybe the next two will be great??

Just UTTER RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH
R U B (r.....u........b) BISH.

END OF.

:bag:

I enjoyed it :/ It was on the Amp after Editors' video of Bullets where they dress up as JD.

Great video, fits perfect with the music. Who filmed it?

the worst NO vid i've ever seen is those pseudo salford monks havin a craic with the band - sub titled up - everyone laffin. What the fuck was all that about??

round and round was the best one, coz it had nowt to with the song. (boss bill and danny though)

A video about running?

runwild 1 wrote: Great video, fits perfect with the music. Who filmed it?

Are you sure?

:bag:

aint seen the video yet. not arsed either.

but the single was played on BBC Radio 2 last night at 6.20pm. I never understand why they don't just play the Album version. sounds way better than what i heard last night.

Radio 2!!!! what the...?

So much grief on Nuo.'s back a lot of the time eh !!!

Actually, I really do like the insightful vision of Jaime about it, which tell us quite something...

So, it's typically NewOrder'esque inni't ?

I like the vid. ! Besides I'm much more into the song than the visual.

Jim Reilly wrote:

runwild 1 wrote: Great video, fits perfect with the music. Who filmed it?

Are you sure?

:bag:

Yes, totally. I think it´s very good.