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Some questions about Republic...

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1- IS it a concept album? I know it was asked before, but at the time I wasn't a member (or at least couldn't be arsed reading it)

2- Is that Barney 'rapping' on Times Change?

3- Why is it so unpopular? I mean, what specifically is wrong with each track?

4- What the hell did they do to Spooky for the single/video?! :eek3:

Thank ye all...

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  1. No, though it seems to me that almost all the lyrics are about Factory and associated travails.

  2. Yes.

  3. According to fan consensus, what's wrong with the album is that Hooky's bass is buried in the mix and Stephen Hague's production is too slick and too conventionally synthpop. I like Hague's stuff, though, so I quite like the album, but it's easy to see why others hate it.

  4. Fluke remixed the video version (the "minimix").

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Jim Bob wrote: 1- IS it a concept album? I know it was asked before, but at the time I wasn't a member (or at least couldn't be arsed reading it)

2- Is that Barney 'rapping' on Times Change?

3- Why is it so unpopular? I mean, what specifically is wrong with each track?

4- What the hell did they do to Spooky for the single/video?! :eek3:

Thank ye all...

  1. Not when compared to some of that particular genre.
  2. Sadly yes.
  3. Too many duff tracks. At least 4.
  4. Your guess is as good as mine!
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factory collapsed soon after they started the record, and the relationship between the band members and Bernard was not good and getting worse...

i personally find the Hague production to be very boring/uninteresting over most the album... sometimes it sounds like a Bernard solo record to me, musically muted

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*sobs*

Oh, beautiful, beautiful Factory...my next door neighbour was in teh Wendies, and was with Factory... :(

Anyway, I think I'm the only one who quite likes Times Change...

Regret (duh), Spooky, World, Times Change (a bit), and...

WAIT A MINUTE! I JUST REALISED I DON'T ACTUALLY LIKE IT ALL THAT MUCH! Wow... :idea:

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Proofs that Stephen Hague's production wasn't the best?

Remixes... when remixes are better than the album version, there's something going on.

Do your own republic, pub the perfecto edit or world and the k-klass edit of Ruined In A Day, the minimix of Spooky, and it's a whole new album.

To be honest, I don't see why people dislike it that much, the only thing that annoys me on this album are the female backing vocals and Chemical.

I like Times Change, Avalanche and Young Offender, which is not everybody's cup of tea.

But it's also my first "new" New Order album, so it will always remain special because of that.

But Hague didn't do all wrong... Regret is better mixed by him than New Order's version.

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