NewOrder "Singles" Review

www.godisnthetvzine.co.uk Discuss it here: Talk about the New Order- Singles collection

Actually, you have to go HERE to read the review.

Its not easy reading - the reviewer is, at best, bluntly honest (& at worst, a twat!). At least he admits that TURN is a great song

God, what a fcuking horrible review... :dead:

Goodness me it makes you ASHAMED to admit you like them. Rocket CHEESE and TOAST for TEA Mick

ho hum. Not another Joy Division fan having a go at New Order for not continuing to play the same music as Joy Division....

And saying that most of their output from the 80s would " go down like a lead balloon in any self-respecting dance club in 2005" is ridiculous - the same would apply to pretty much every song from the 80s! The technology was completely different - what would you expect?

Missing the point methinks.

horsepills wrote:

And saying that most of their output from the 80s would " go down like a lead balloon in any self-respecting dance club in 2005" is ridiculous - the same would apply to pretty much every song from the 80s! The technology was completely different - what would you expect?

Any time I'm out, NO songs set the place alight.

Chris Nash wrote:

horsepills wrote: ho hum. Not another Joy Division fan having a go at New Order for not continuing to play the same music as Joy Division....

And saying that most of their output from the 80s would " go down like a lead balloon in any self-respecting dance club in 2005" is ridiculous - the same would apply to pretty much every song from the 80s! The technology was completely different - what would you expect?

Missing the point methinks.

'Missing The Point' Monkeyman? Erm... not quite - read my review of WFTSC - I still like almost all of New Order's output, but I agree with many of the sentiments in the review. I actually prefer NO to JD (only just).

Chris - I also agree with a lot of what the reviewer says. I wasn't rubbishing the entire review - just certain parts of it.

It pisses me off when Joy Division fans continuously compare New Order to JD, and moan that they've become "pop".

And like I said, marking them down for sounding "dated" is nonsense. The songs are 20 years old, so of course they will sound dated. A singles collection isn't about compiling a bunch of tracks that will sound fresh in clubs in 2005! - that's where he's missing the point.

its just fashion- i predict house piano breaks will be all the rage again soon. This guy probably loves pedestrian guitar rock and thinks the strokes were the apotheosis of what music should be about.

and what 'electronica' bands of the 90's is he referring to? Underworld?

Spotnick wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: No worcestershire sauce on that Mick? Or would that constitute a cheesey remix?

While we're at it... how the hell do you pronounce that name? SHIRE OR SHEER ?

Never knew what was the right way to say it.

CHER

Spotnick wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: No worcestershire sauce on that Mick? Or would that constitute a cheesey remix?

While we're at it... how the hell do you pronounce that name? SHIRE OR SHEER ?

Never knew what was the right way to say it.

'wustershur' is the closest, i suppose.

and i agree with christopher--anytime new order are played in a club they always get quite a reception (or perhaps it's just the clubs i'm willing to go to?).

the single 'michael jackson' glove is dated; new order are not.

That's pretty bias. If you hate NO to begin with, why write a review? Another good product description from our friends at Amazon.uk:

ReviewsProduct DescriptionSingles is a 2CD set of the very cream of eighties pioneers, New Order, from the very first single "Blue Monday" to their latest, "Waiting for the Siren’s Call".

A pretty accurate review I would say. No one can argue that some of New Orders 80s music sounds comletely naff nowadays (Thieves Like Us and The Perfect Kiss are quite cringeworthy) but I still love the songs and Im sure they were quite unique upon first release.

Any songs that are purely guitar, bass and drum instrumentation are bound to date better. And yes Barney does have a p*ss poor vocal range.

But how many bands can say theyve had the level of success of NO, or been recording and gigging for such a time period? U2 and REM spring to mind but they had the advantage of having proper singers. Thats not to say that they have released their own number of mediocre (or worse) songs over the years.

It just reads to me like the reviewer is an 'indie-rock' fan who doesn't like dance music, full stop. Saying that dance tracks from the '80s sound 'cheesy' and dated due to the electronics employed....no shit, Sherlock! To me, tracks like Confusion are what got me into 'dance' music - house in particular - in the first place, and instantly transport me back to that time and place when I listen to Singles now, which, surely, is the whole idea of compilations? They're not there to reflect the latest musical fads/bandwagons, they're in order for fans to remember the good times, and newbies to find out how the band USED TO sound in the '80s - 'cheesy' chimes an' all. As for the Ibiza link, I think the reviewer is mistaking Ibiza '88-'90 for the horror TV shows of 'Club Reps' and the like, the latter-day pub crawl culture which overtook the White Isle in the early '90s, and which is as far removed from the Ibiza scene which influenced New Order as the MEN Arena is from the Hacienda? That's my point of view, and hey! whaddayaknow, I got through a whole load of paragraphs without calling anyone a twat. I must be getting old..... then again I HAVE just been to Ibiza....

AgentWood wrote:

Spotnick wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: No worcestershire sauce on that Mick? Or would that constitute a cheesey remix?

While we're at it... how the hell do you pronounce that name? SHIRE OR SHEER ?

Never knew what was the right way to say it.

'wustershur' is the closest, i suppose.

Correct. From a Wustershun.

NO Regret wrote: A pretty accurate review I would say. No one can argue that some of New Orders 80s music sounds comletely naff nowadays (Thieves Like Us and The Perfect Kiss are quite cringeworthy) but I still love the songs and Im sure they were quite unique upon first release.

Any songs that are purely guitar, bass and drum instrumentation are bound to date better. And yes Barney does have a p*ss poor vocal range.

But how many bands can say theyve had the level of success of NO, or been recording and gigging for such a time period? U2 and REM spring to mind but they had the advantage of having proper singers. Thats not to say that they have released their own number of mediocre (or worse) songs over the years.

Although I agree with some of your points I think that NO's early output is not naff.