I was insulted in the Pub the other night, by being told that New Order are the Chavs (Scallies if you live in the North of England) choice of band. I was shocked at this statement, as ive always looked upon New Order as a thinking persons band. When did this association occur? I was told this happened due to the introduction of Ecstacy on the Football terraces. Whats the forums view of New Orders supposedly Chav image.
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Was it from a Hard-fi or BSP fan?! 
Never heard such nonsense in my life. You should've nutted the cunt, best thing for 'em. Put them out of their obvious misery, morons. 
Al Jarvis wrote: Was it from a Hard-fi or BSP fan?!
Never heard such nonsense in my life. You should've nutted the cunt, best thing for 'em. Put them out of their obvious misery, morons.
Take off your Aquascutum cap before nutting anyone though, don't won't any blood on the cloth. :D
Ecstacy was introduced to the football terraces in the late 80's, long before chavs came about.
some NO fans may be chavs, some chavs may go to football matches, some football fans may also be NO fans, but it is a uge generalisation to say that ALL NO fans are chavs, I don't think any NOOLer would consider themselves a chav.
I for one would never wear burberry (or even spell it correctly), I have only started wearing a baseball cap since my hair started going gray, I don't drive a citreon saxo and wouldn't even excpet a lift in one. I AM NOT A CHAV.
You should defo have nutted the bastard that made the comment.
Johnny wrote: I thought Chavs were into So Solid Crew or whatever the latest crap is .........
No it's wormwood scrub's big hairy backed Dave who's into So Solid Crew (more specifically Carl Morgan, who's just been sent down for life), he's deeply into him
Dunno about chavs being a new invention. NI-ese for chav is "spide" ( I think cos they dress like spiderman, in shellsuits, and if they come from loyalist parts, they're always red white and blue) ,and we've had spides for at least 20 years and probably more. Spides hate new order, I know this for a fact, they can't cope with the complexity of the music, the only things I've found that upset them more are classical music and frank zappa. The Orb are good as a weapon as well, cos the chav.spide/ned will think it's hearing "good pill toons", then they'll suffer some of alex's headfucking and their lil hollow bonces go BOOOM!
I can see how someone may make an eroneous connection via "football, game of exam failures", but that's stretchig things.
Chavs typically listen to that horrible sould less soul music, and all those Darwin-refutations like eminem and fuckin 50cent (50 braincells more like, don't his management know that extremist racist fucktard organizations around the world have been given a new poster child???????). Fucking yo yo mofo, bitch bang ho bitch bang ho....alll over someone elses fucking record. Chavs love it cos it's all about keepin bitches down where they belong(that's in their minds, not mine I hasten to add I hear a horde of vik-ettes charging me with handbags and mace drawn), spending your 300 quid a week dole on argos jewellery and being unnecessarily violent to innocents.
I saw this "documentary " on sky where this woman who clearly, the lowest of the low, tried to say that the country's backlash against chavs, is an elitist attack on the working classes. OMG wat a tard.
- Chav's don't work. Despite there being fook all wrong with them they always get 6 times what I'm getting, and I'm actually fookin sick ( I been told to claim all sorts but just can't because it'd make me feel like a chav).
- Her assertion that not all chavs are violent retarded psychopaths, is a piece of the most head-dropped-on logic I ever heard, it's like saying "not all sharks are fish". I don't think she ( and her supporters I warred with on a forum) had the mental capacity to work out that the only place chav meant "working class person" was inside her empty fucking head, and that to anyone else it's dictionary definition OPENS with "violent retarded psycho...."
- Her assertion that they are not criminals doesn't sit too well with them being working class. You cannot afford 200 quid trainers, gold jewellery and all the other badges of your office, on legally claimed benefits. SO either tey are defrauding the DSS, ot they're theiving.
In case you aint guessed, I'm one step down from adolf hitler when it comes to spides, camps for the lot of them.
Steve Campbell wrote: I saw this "documentary " on sky where this woman who clearly, the lowest of the low, tried to say that the country's backlash against chavs, is an elitist attack on the working classes. OMG wat a tard.
chav = scumbags with no money, who make it wanna seem like they have got money.
e.g. by wearing shit burberry hats
Steve Campbell wrote: Dunno about chavs being a new invention. NI-ese for chav is "spide" ( I think cos they dress like spiderman, in shellsuits, and if they come from loyalist parts, they're always red white and blue) ,and we've had spides for at least 20 years and probably more. Spides hate new order, I know this for a fact, they can't cope with the complexity of the music, the only things I've found that upset them more are classical music and frank zappa. The Orb are good as a weapon as well, cos the chav.spide/ned will think it's hearing "good pill toons", then they'll suffer some of alex's headfucking and their lil hollow bonces go BOOOM!
I can see how someone may make an eroneous connection via "football, game of exam failures", but that's stretchig things.
Chavs typically listen to that horrible sould less soul music, and all those Darwin-refutations like eminem and fuckin 50cent (50 braincells more like, don't his management know that extremist racist fucktard organizations around the world have been given a new poster child???????). Fucking yo yo mofo, bitch bang ho bitch bang ho....alll over someone elses fucking record. Chavs love it cos it's all about keepin bitches down where they belong(that's in their minds, not mine I hasten to add I hear a horde of vik-ettes charging me with handbags and mace drawn), spending your 300 quid a week dole on argos jewellery and being unnecessarily violent to innocents.
I saw this "documentary " on sky where this woman who clearly, the lowest of the low, tried to say that the country's backlash against chavs, is an elitist attack on the working classes. OMG wat a tard.
- Chav's don't work. Despite there being fook all wrong with them they always get 6 times what I'm getting, and I'm actually fookin sick ( I been told to claim all sorts but just can't because it'd make me feel like a chav).
- Her assertion that not all chavs are violent retarded psychopaths, is a piece of the most head-dropped-on logic I ever heard, it's like saying "not all sharks are fish". I don't think she ( and her supporters I warred with on a forum) had the mental capacity to work out that the only place chav meant "working class person" was inside her empty fucking head, and that to anyone else it's dictionary definition OPENS with "violent retarded psycho...."
- Her assertion that they are not criminals doesn't sit too well with them being working class. You cannot afford 200 quid trainers, gold jewellery and all the other badges of your office, on legally claimed benefits. SO either tey are defrauding the DSS, ot they're theiving.
In case you aint guessed, I'm one step down from adolf hitler when it comes to spides, camps for the lot of them.
Steve Campbell has had far too much time on his hands today:p
Angel with a Catapult wrote:
Steve Campbell has had far too much time on his hands today:p
But he has a point, and I for one agree with him, line 'em up and run the fuckers down with a steam roller.
Or at least sterilize them so they can't breed 37 morons offspring by 9 different dads by the time they're 21.
(or impregnate 37 women if you're a bull chav).
I have a special hatred for them here, because it's chavs who bring up their children to hate..5 yr olds out shouting "fuck the pope, kill the fenians".....not fit to have kids if that's the way you bring em up.
I also hate em cos they're the ONLY people on the entire planet who can be agressive while smoking a huge joint and suffering from 2 e's (mind you, considering what those tards take in the mistaken belief that is IS MDMA, it's no surprise...the 2 boys who did all the dealing in the last club we ran, pair of tubes if ever there were 2, had their connection arrested....and releaseed as the police could find nothing ilegal in his 4000 pills. If I had a penny for having to explain to children that the statement "I had 6 E's last night and they were great" is flawed on SO many levels, I'd buy a coupla decent ones :) )
In my experience all chavs are into shite r+b and 'gangsta rap' like kanye west or whatever the f*** he's called. NO/JD's music is far to highbrow for those c***s.
Definitely not a chavs' band these days, doubt they could afford gig tickets (it'd mean a couple of weeks off the White Lightning and beans...) - back in the day though they were popular amongst the casuals, and (to a lesser extent) skinheads. I think most skinheads actually were into JD, not so much NO, and this was after Curtis had snuffed it, so they couldn't go to the likes of the Moonlight and hassle the raincoat brigade. Saying that, I don't think JD gigs were entirely free from the odd broken nose and broken pint pot.
"Chav" has an entry in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
No mention of New Order. My favorite aspect: "There may be a tendency to use a North London accent, irrespective of the speaker's geographical location."
Angel with a Catapult wrote: Steve Campbell has had far too much time on his hands today:p
Is that you, Miss Burchill?
Entirely agree with Steve on this one!
nancyo wrote: My favorite aspect: "There may be a tendency to use a North London accent, irrespective of the speaker's geographical location."
Do they bollocks. They all talk like they're from South Central LA, regardless of which part of the Home Counties they're from!
I don't know what pub you were in I, but these idiots obviously don't know what they are talking about - its a similar comment to the one that NO are blokes band. These people need to buy the CD's come onto this site - then they would realise what rubbish they were spouting.
I don't know what pub you were in I, but these idiots obviously don't know what they are talking about - its a similar comment to the one that NO are blokes band. These people need to buy the CD's come onto this site - then they would realise what rubbish they were spouting.
normal wrote: its a similar comment to the one that NO are blokes band. These people need to buy the CD's come onto this site - then they would realise what rubbish they were spouting.
But New Order are a blokes' band.
Al Jarvis wrote:
normal wrote: its a similar comment to the one that NO are blokes band. These people need to buy the CD's come onto this site - then they would realise what rubbish they were spouting.
But New Order are a blokes' band.
indeed, but not on the scall scale of the Mondays.
john kershaw wrote: indeed, but not on the scall scale of the Mondays.
You reckon? Certainly started out as the lads' band of choice but with the likes of Step On and Pills & Thrills they went pop-tastic and tapped into the yoof market, boys and girls alike, which I guess is when most of us here got out?
yup, I went from love to hate in no time, tho kinky afro cheered me up :).
NO ARE a bit of a blokes band, certainly here...there's like 50 guys to every chick who dig em. My sis loves em. And my pseudo-pretend-surrogate girlfriend hates their music but think's they are very probably the coolest band on earth :)
I really hate the Chavs around Ballymena who buy a Vauxhall Nova or Corsa and do it up to look super spidey. Tinted windows, spoilers, noisy exhausts, fecking crappy rave music blarring away. Driving up yer arse in a 30mph speed limit in town. Just fuck off.
Well if that's the case perhaps they are a chavs band after all, and these media reports/stroke comments in the pub are correct.
:D