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todays nme (forget what those londoners say - its out on weds) has an articel in the news section that new order are to do a soundtrack for "Control"
there is a tiny interview in which they discuss possibly recording new material & stating that the film will have mini videos for each song as part of the film.
also says that they are considering playing jd only sets live & have discussed it with moby & billy corgan.
interesting news.
when the heck are they going to finally do a JD dvd set. a double dvd should just about do it, film clips, tv apperances, hatym etc. i don' care to much about the quality of the film stock, except it would have to be better than the stuff i have.
hibster wrote:
also says that they are considering playing jd only sets live & have discussed it with moby & billy corgan.
Barney, Hooky and Steve fronted by Moby / Billy Corgan doing some JD gigs?
Stand back and watch the flames...
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First NO, THEn JD..THEN warsaw.....and finally we will end up with barney and Hooky crying the their prams.
JD is over, however good. Fucking record company must have found a market for it.
Refuse to believe to be honest. Moby or corgan "playin" Ian....get them to dress up right and dance funny no one will ever know?????????? what? too daft to think about
it also said they played "practically" a full set of jd stuff "some time last month" for the john peel day.
well researched eh?
hibster wrote: it also said they played "practically" a full set of jd stuff "some time last month" for the john peel day.
Ruined by a bunch of redneck arseholes shouting NUUORDAAHH no doubt. 
talking of a new joy division-album, does anyone know what this is supposed to be? "Let The Movie Begin"?
(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Sorry to sound like a miserable cunt, but this all sounds rubbish.
Why do people always associate the word "realistic" with the word "miserable"? 
I find masel in total agreemenet with Dave fer once.
I'd love to see more reworkings a la 98 
Moby's take of NDF is the dogs bollocks, but I'd much rather hear Neworder do Joy Division than anyone else.
They've already done live versions of
Atmosphere She's Lost Control Isolation Heart & Soul Transmission Digital Shadowplay New Dawn Fades (wi Moby) Warsaw LWTUA Decades
Studio versions of these alone would be a fucking magic album. Doubt we'll ever see it though :(
Just because Moby Dink and Billy Corgan aka Humpty Dumpty are Joy Division fans, doesnt mean they don't suck bawlz. I wish New Order would stop going to them for this kind of stuff. Corgan and Moby should put their baldness together so they can generate solar energy, or protect the sea monkeys, or promote eating acorns or something. Anything so long as I can't hear them/have to listen to them.
Jackson Withrow wrote: Just because Moby Dink and Billy Corgan aka Humpty Dumpty are Joy Division fans, doesnt mean they don't suck bawlz. I wish New Order would stop going to them for this kind of stuff. Corgan and Moby should put their baldness together so they can generate solar energy, or protect the sea monkeys, or promote eating acorns or something. Anything so long as I can't hear them/have to listen to them.
Yes, thank you! I second that!
Though, I like Moby, I have most of his albums.. it's just 
I'm tired of collaborations and covers. It was great for NDF, but, really, time to pack that side of himself in.
As long as they are talking to all these hip musicians, maybe they oughta grab Jack White, too, and see what he thinks.
Look it's a silly idea. that's all there is to it.
What is this stupid obsession with JD material about anyway? It's great, but listen to the records because....basic fact time here folks....without Ian...it's not as good!
BTW msh...I think there's a gig for you over on the NOOLettes thread
hibster wrote: todays nme (forget what those londoners say - its out on weds) has an articel in the news section that new order are to do a soundtrack for "Control"
there is a tiny interview in which they discuss possibly recording new material & stating that the film will have mini videos for each song as part of the film.
also says that they are considering playing jd only sets live & have discussed it with moby & billy corgan.
If they do that, we can say goodbye to the "2006 album"... :(
It will be part of this.
From BBC 6music website
Joy Division comeback New Order plan return to their roots for biopic 14 Dec 05 - New Order have revealed they are working on songs for the film about their late Joy Division bandmate Ian Curtis.
Control is based on Touching From a Distance, the book by Curtis's widow Deborah. Casting for the role of Curtis - who committed suicided in 1980 - will take place in the spring.
The film is being made by director and rock photographer Anton Corbijn, who has worked with U2 and Depeche Mode.
Peter Hook told NME they wanted to record new songs for the film as Joy Division.
He said: "We were asked to do the soundtrack to the film, which I thought was a f***ing great idea - for Joy Division to do the music for a Joy Division film - because we've never really done a soundtrack before.
"We've never done a soundtrack before"
Peter Hook
"It may include new stuff. Anton wants to use songs by Joy Division so that each song becomes a video. Like the way the Atmosphere video was filmed, he wants to write videos that appear in the film."
The Manchester band are also considering playing all Joy Division sets at future gigs.They played such a set at the October tribute concert for John Peel in London, including a rare outing for Warsaw.
Hook said: "We have actually talked about doing Joy Division sets and gigs, but we haven't found our footing yet."
Andre Paine
msh wrote:
Jackson Withrow wrote: Just because Moby Dink and Billy Corgan aka Humpty Dumpty are Joy Division fans, doesnt mean they don't suck bawlz. I wish New Order would stop going to them for this kind of stuff. Corgan and Moby should put their baldness together so they can generate solar energy, or protect the sea monkeys, or promote eating acorns or something. Anything so long as I can't hear them/have to listen to them.
Though, I like Moby, I have most of his albums.. it's just
As long as they are talking to all these hip musicians, maybe they oughta grab Jack White, too, and see what he thinks.
I grant that Moby does have some pretty cool stuff in his catologue and I'm sure a Smashing Pumpkins reunion will be...smashing but New Order doesn't need them drooling over good tracks that do not require additional artists in the first place. Sanctimonious assholes...
Chemical Bros. are usually great for New Order and there was some April Fool's joke about John Frusciante joining New Order but after hearing his album "A Sphere in the Heart of Darkness" (specifically the track The Afterglow) he might be a really interesting flavour in working together. Jack White? Perhaps.
Keep that bugger White away from NO. Most overrated guitarist/songwriter of the decade. He's a such a pretentious prick, re-writing the same songs over and over again and getting excessive accolades for adding marimba to a couple of tracks. BOLLOCKS!
JV wrote: Keep that bugger White away from NO. Most overrated guitarist/songwriter of the decade. He's a such a pretentious prick, re-writing the same songs over and over again and getting excessive accolades for adding marimba to a couple of tracks. BOLLOCKS!
That would be my qualm against him is that he pulls that "rock music today sucks, except for us, we make REAL rock" speech. He has some unique talents though if you look past the over hype.
okay this is really stupid, there is no more Joy Division, if New Order want to Re-Record some of the songs for an EP i think thats interesting but new Joy Division Material? isnt this what they Didnt want to do when they Decided to carry on, and when they Refused to play JD Songs? all of a sudden they want to re-form Joy Division? its Bullshit to make money off of the Indie kids who are obssessed with Joy Division. so who will write the lyrics? Barney? or will they let mobey & Billy Corgan write them, its pathetic
Maybe for soundtrack music, they mean just music, no vocals for the Control film? They've recorded soundtrack music with no vocals before haven't they? I'm thinking.. Salvation, various TV shows, etc.
I'd be ok with that.. if they recorded Joy Division like music for the movie. It would be sacriligous to have anyone else front the band and they record as Joy Division.. even Bernard in my opinion. Kind of like the 20th century Doors.. heh.. or worse yet, they could do a 'reality' TV show and have contestants vie for the lead singer role. 
Don't have a problem with them doing the soundtrack - fair enough - but JD only sets? A 'mini video' for each song in the movie?
Ugh. Talk about painting a vulgar picture. Looking forward to the tie-in DVD of Herzog's flick with special new voiceover commentary ("this is where we think Ian started to tie the noose"), authentic replica washing lines ("they're multi-purpose and stronger than you'd think!") and "He died for you!" t-shirts. Oh, and especially "Reissue! Repackage! The Very, Very, Very Best of Ian Curtis (and Joy Division). For the Last Time. No, Honest Guv!".
Suck my balls.
(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Don't have a problem with them doing the soundtrack - fair enough - but JD only sets? A 'mini video' for each song in the movie?
Ugh. Talk about painting a vulgar picture. Looking forward to the tie-in DVD of Herzog's flick with special new voiceover commentary ("this is where we think Ian started to tie the noose"), authentic replica washing lines ("they're multi-purpose and stronger than you'd think!") and "He died for you!" t-shirts. Oh, and especially "Reissue! Repackage! The Very, Very, Very Best of Ian Curtis (and Joy Division). For the Last Time. No, Honest Guv!".
Suck my balls.
Dr sir, speaking as a foaming, ranting maniac of many years experience, I wish to complement you on a truly fine use of truth obviation by hyperbolic exrapolation, truly a master work and a pleasure to read.
And of course, absolutely correct in it's warload.
C'mon! let's see what happens. There's no doubt "it's just not the same" but something great could come out of this. I realise few if anyone will agree.
Re-recording as "Joy Division" seems more than a bit disingenuous, more of a marketing ploy. I like the idea of them recording the soundtrack to the movie (better than Robert Smith doing it, as he's been allegedly making film music lately). Still, playing longer Joy Division-only live sets seems like a lame idea...unless they plan on bringing some other ones back that'll really stir people up (cough...Decades). To my count, they've played about 15 JD songs before, so that's a set's worth for sure. Hard to say.
