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Just wondering about the current lack of promotion being exercised by Warners:
Warners to release the left over tracks from the WFTSC sessions as Digital Only in 2006, then byyeeee?
Not something I'd like to see, but if the suits want to increase their operating margins in the next financial year?
Why promote all the new stuff when you're creaming it in from the back catalogue which promotes itself?
Besides, as long as they get paid where they end up, I'm happy enough to put distance between NO and AOL
As long as they are making a profit OVERALL (including back catalogue sales), NO won't be dropped.
The digital releases are a scary possibility which I hope to God doesn't happen!
Damn, to be honest, I'm surprised how much promotion WFTSC's been getting here.
I say that thinking of bands (e.g., James, Big Country) who disappeared from the shelves in the U.S. while going strong in the U.K.
As far as the back catalog, Rhino (in the U.S.) owns that now, right? That's where we got International.
I dunno; I'm not surprised when anyone gets dropped anymore. Doesn't mean I won't track you down, though.
EDITED: 'cause I called Big Country "British" and I just know someone's gonna rag on me about it.
With "Control" looming, you'd be a mug to let them go with the back catalogue being pillaged once again.
Alfred wrote: Just wondering about the current lack of promotion being exercised by Warners:
- 7" only release of WFTSC
- US Digital only release of Turn
- WTFSC CDs in the Amazon bargain bin
Warners to release the left over tracks from the WFTSC sessions as Digital Only in 2006, then byyeeee?
Not something I'd like to see, but if the suits want to increase their operating margins in the next financial year?
Your an optimist
No really they will get another deal if they write songs,New Order are big headliners now.Can't see em being dropped.They've had a lot of Kudos this year...
Why not get Tony Wilson to start up their own label or is that just a stupid profitless shite idea.
Just been onto the British Phonographic Industry website for you STAT hedz 
Silver 60,000 Gold 100,000 Platinum 300,000
NEW ORDER , SUBSTANCE , Platinum , Fri Feb 3 1989 NEW ORDER , SUBSTANCE , Gold , Fri Feb 3 1989 NEW ORDER , SUBSTANCE , Silver , Fri Feb 3 1989 NEW ORDER , TECHNIQUE , Gold , Fri Feb 3 1989 NEW ORDER , TECHNIQUE , Silver , Fri Feb 3 1989 NEW ORDER , REPUBLIC , Gold , Sat May 1 1993 NEW ORDER , REPUBLIC , Silver , Sat May 1 1993 NEW ORDER , (the best of) NEW ORDER , Gold , Tue Nov 1 1994 NEW ORDER , (the best of) NEW ORDER , Silver , Tue Nov 1 1994 NEW ORDER , BBC RADIO 1 LIVE IN CONCERT , Silver , Sun Jan 1 1995 NEW ORDER , (the best of) NEW ORDER , Platinum , Sun Jan 1 1995 New Order , Get Ready , Silver , Mon Aug 27 2001 New Order , Get Ready , Gold , Fri Sep 14 2001 NEW ORDER , SUBSTANCE , Silver , Fri May 31 2002
Hardly multi-million selling. But looking upon Mr. brightside they can always do a Mariah. For you sicko's out there I made sure I put the 'a' in that sentence.
SimplyThrilled wrote:
...they can always do Mariah.
For you sicko's out there, I took it out!
U said it.
I was only trying to protect ppl like u from dangerous thoughts...
damn, I failed.
CAPTAIN SLACKBLADDER wrote: Why not get Tony Wilson to start up their own label or is that just a stupid profitless shite idea.
probably the kind of idea...I'm guessing here....that would end in assault charges for at least one band member and Mr Wilson.
If they were about to drop them, there's at least 2 labels willing to pick them up without a problem. Not that I could necessarily identify them, but if push came to shove no doubt about it a few of their fans wouldn't mind starting a homebrew organization and giving those guys a chance to just play their music and let someone else handle the business side of things.
They'll always have their fan base. It's like those sort of jobs which ask you on the application if you can bring a clientele list with you --- yeah, I'm pretty sure they could vouch for having a group of rabid, moneyspendin' devotees who'd love to keep them in the style to which they've become accustomed to.
I just don't see Warners dropping them next year. Too much on the plate, too much publicity to still be had.
Excellent points Melly. One MINOR quibble WE ARE THE CLIENTELLE can you imagine anyone wanting to inherit us lot :)
Steve Campbell wrote: Excellent points Melly. One MINOR quibble WE ARE THE CLIENTELLE can you imagine anyone wanting to inherit us lot :)
They could do alot worse! We keep the fuckers going! Really, us running their career makes perfect sense. If you think about the history, having their fans manage them would be the ultimate icing on the cake.
I think we'd do a rather smashing job! Especially the Angels. Hmmmm. "Barney, if you want your royalties this month, theres a few things i need you to take care of first" 
I'd be most happy to "do" Mariah. On my wife's recommendation, I'd gladly give her a big slap around her plastic face just to stop her from singing, the silly caterwauling bitch.
Bonzette wrote:
I think we'd do a rather smashing job! Especially the Angels. Hmmmm. "Barney, if you want your royalties this month, theres a few things i need you to take care of first"
Oh there's fuel for another dream tonight. Last night invloved NOOL, and I suppose tonight will involve setting up a "label" for the boys.
Alfred wrote: Just wondering about the current lack of promotion being exercised by Warners:
- 7" only release of WFTSC
- US Digital only release of Turn
- WTFSC CDs in the Amazon bargain bin
Warners to release the left over tracks from the WFTSC sessions as Digital Only in 2006, then byyeeee?
Not something I'd like to see, but if the suits want to increase their operating margins in the next financial year?
WFTSC was priced at £16 in HMV today. In comparison PC&L was a jaw dropping £4...
melly (msh) wrote:
Bonzette wrote:
I think we'd do a rather smashing job! Especially the Angels. Hmmmm. "Barney, if you want your royalties this month, theres a few things i need you to take care of first"
Oh there's fuel for another dream tonight. Last night invloved NOOL, and I suppose tonight will involve setting up a "label" for the boys.
oh dear, melly, I think you need to get out more... 
Alfred wrote: Just wondering about the current lack of promotion being exercised by Warners:
- 7" only release of WFTSC
- US Digital only release of Turn
- WTFSC CDs in the Amazon bargain bin
Warners to release the left over tracks from the WFTSC sessions as Digital Only in 2006, then byyeeee?
Not something I'd like to see, but if the suits want to increase their operating margins in the next financial year?
This gets my vote for worst post of the year! 
FAC51 wrote:
Alfred wrote: Just wondering about the current lack of promotion being exercised by Warners:
- 7" only release of WFTSC
- US Digital only release of Turn
- WTFSC CDs in the Amazon bargain bin
Warners to release the left over tracks from the WFTSC sessions as Digital Only in 2006, then byyeeee?
Not something I'd like to see, but if the suits want to increase their operating margins in the next financial year?
This gets my vote for worst post of the year!
worst post of the year ?
NO NO,I WONT HAVE THAT !! ,there was a post by someone from eastbourne
Tempted to say "better" :D
Musically and muso-ethically sounder anyway....no one to threaten barney's family to make him act like some sort of pop star on stage. Might do so well for themselve...might do better who knows.
I think if AOLTW do fire em...(which is bollox cos they are an easy earner)...as has been mentioned...there's enough knowlege gathered here to take over and become their record company. Well, unless tey wanna give up :D
ok Rhino does not own the NO back catalog. Rhino was bought out a while back by Warners...
if I remember correctly NO has always had a relationship with Warners in The USA....I mean I believe Quincy Jones' Qwest Records had a distrubtion agreement with Warners or was a full subsidiary
In The USA NO is a steady seller and in The UK/Europe can still bring in big $$
with WFTSC, Singles & Next year's record-the boys will stay right where they are
I told my local Warners label rep that NO decided to rush release stuff before they were as old as The Rolling Stones!!!
I hope that the title question does not happen, although I know that NO can still make money.
NewOrder has had plenty of attention this year from the US label considering, don't see much of a reason to bitch to be honest
as for the indie route, The Fall and Wire seem to be doing okay and still putting out quality new stuff... don't know about how much money they pocket, but the music still gets out there for those that are interested
If they made better music they would sell more records and wouldnt be in danger of being marginalized and ultimately trivilized on their way to being an "all-oldies" outfit doing Vegas shows without a record label
They should do the following;
Change their name as they should have when the lineup changed...
Refuse to play any old songs...
Dont play any dance music...
Drop the fat old studio musician (no, not hooky, the new guy) in favor of a younger fourth member who knows nothing of their history who can sing and play while Barney devotes himself to dancing fulltime...
Invent a new genre of music that is fresh, innovative and pushes things forward rather than backward...
Lose significant amounts of weight...
Just follow those easy steps and as yet unnamed new band will again revitalize rock music and popular culture and will have every record company in the world clamoring for them, driving their price into Howard Stern ranges before they opt for satellite distribution
Its all so simple isnt it?
Ajw
