One angry Manchester reader has us bang to rights ...

One angry Manchester reader has us bang to rights ...

To publish a list of the 10 craziest producers of all time without mentioning the number one is an oversight that's as typical of you cockney shites as it is inane.

Martin Hannett deserves to be up there with Phil Spector, not just because of his legendary madness (yes, he would sometimes sleep under the mixing desk) but also because he repeatedly changed the world of music.

To remind you; his use of the AMS digital delay in 1979 - a machine that was partly conceived in his drug-accelerated brain - revolutionised the way drums sound. For ever. As for his experimentation with early computers, soldering irons and keyboards - 'Isolation', 'Everything's Gone Green', 'Temptation' - it forms the foundation of what we call modern music.

The last words, though, should go to Martin who, as we prepared for the ninth take of A Certain Ratio's 'All Night Party', informed the band: 'Alright, this is the last take, and this time I want it ... faster ... but slower.'

And he could make speed in a bath.

Anthony H Wilson Manchester :)

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I've got a .pdf of the cutting if anyone wants it.

Good man Tony

You go, Tony !

Great stuff!

yes Tony-you brilliant twat YOU GO!!

i don't want to be picky but what exactly did Hannett have to do with Temptation and EGG?

Yeah, Hannet did not lay his grubby hands on Temptation.

I meant to post this a few days ago but didn't get my arse in gear. The article is sitting next to my PC.

I thought I had mentioned it!

You tell them cockney arses Tony!

Shame he spoiled it a bit by incorrectly naming Temptation as having a Hannett involvement , i agree.

Johnny wrote: You tell them cockney arses Tony!

Shame he spoiled it a bit my incorrectly Temp as having a Hannett involvement , i agree.

Does that make sense to anyone?

Could he have meant the influence of Hannett?

Christopher Owens wrote: Could he have meant the influnce of Hannett?

Yeah , that probably is very true.New Order wouldn't have made that drum sound on Temptation if they had not previously worked with the old fruitcake/genius Hannett.

Johnny wrote:

Christopher Owens wrote: Could he have meant the influnce of Hannett?

Yeah , that probably is very true.New Order wouldn't have made that drum sound on Temptation if they had not previously worked with the old fruitcake/genius Hannett.

yes they did learn about production from hannett, but if you credited everbody who you ever learned anything off, well i don't know. anyway the lack of hannett involvement is precicely what makes temptation such a great song.

Wait a minute...

Something's foul here...

A Wilson letter without mentioning Happy Mondays...

I smell a rat...

He's talking about Gollum, right?

The twat shows why he's not a cunt. Well done Anthony T. Wilson!!!

yeah man i saw this a couple of days ago. in fact JC, was the first to report it on his website, cerysmaticfactory.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: i don't want to be picky but what exactly did Hannett have to do with Temptation and EGG?

Nothing to do with temptation (other than influence), but on EGG one story is, according to barney, he took a feed from the meter of the hi hat pattern on the mixing desk and used that as VC (voltage control) input to trigger the synth so it synced with the drums as there was no midi or any way of syncing live drums and synths in those days, pure genius, if a little nerdy.

Add the countless other tricks and tips he gave them and it's no wonder temptation gets mentioned, everything NO did after him was influenced by him, that's probably why they started using other producers.

But he always said the best producer of a band is the band themselves, I have to agree on that.