I never really thought of Joy Division as a real drug influenced band, but then you hear tracks by New Order where they were getting more and more dance oriented, like "Confusion" and "Blue Monday", along with the opening of the Hacienda, and from what I understand acid played a part in a lot of it. I know I read an interview with Barney where he said they stayed up 72 hours straight on drugs while recording at one point. Obviously they were still functioning and the music wasnt suffering. What's everyone's opinion on this subject?
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New Order were (are?) musicians dabbling in drugs. Up to them, after all they're adults.
When they become junkies dabbling in music, then there's a problem.
Doubt it was acid. As for the whole subject of drugs, they are consenting adults, it's up to them. The drugs contributed to some fucking great music though!
Believe me i know from my many nights at the Hacienda both Barney and hooky were doing shitloads of drugs and they never needed any encouragment from Shaun or Bez , most of Factory were doing drugs coke , weed , ecstacy , acid , but hey as you said they were adults and knew the score , never witnessed Steve or Gillian doing anything though
oldmonkey wrote: Doubt it was acid. As for the whole subject of drugs, they are consenting adults, it's up to them. The drugs contributed to some fucking great music though!
In the book "True Faith" they mention acid use more than a couple of times.
It might have contributed negatively to their live show though, since Barney has to read to the teleprompter so much, haha!
Yes. New Order used to take a lot of drugs. Just like they used to drink lots of beer. Eat loads of chips, chew loads of sandwiches, smoke lots of fags and make loads of decent records.
By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Yes. New Order used to take a lot of drugs. Just like they used to drink lots of beer. Eat loads of chips, chew loads of sandwiches, smoke lots of fags and make loads of decent records.
Wow, really compelling! Tell me more!
If you have the live version of Temptation from 1981 - Barney looks drugged to the eyeballs.
It was rampant, celebrate it. The music would bear no comparison without it. Look no further than Technique - recorded in Ibiza around the Summer of Love, you can imagine the milieu.
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Fay wrote: If you have the live version of Temptation from 1981 - Barney looks drugged to the eyeballs.
He was recovering from his botched job on "Ceremony" and hoping that Gillian would get the keyboard part right for "Temptation" just when he realized 'Denial" would've been a fine set closer. But fortunately, they played the Taboo 'core.
Joe Hays wrote:
oldmonkey wrote: Doubt it was acid. As for the whole subject of drugs, they are consenting adults, it's up to them. The drugs contributed to some fucking great music though!
In the book "True Faith" they mention acid use more than a couple of times.
It might have contributed negatively to their live show though, since Barney has to read to the teleprompter so much, haha!
That book is notable only for its incessant inaccuracy. It is hopelessly wrong in so many places!
I discovered that they used drugs last year in a interview and it was hard to believe ! I nerver had any doubt !
There were some fuckin great interviews in '98 and 2001. There was a 20 page feature in Select I think which mentioned some of the acid stories during the making of PC&L, Barney in a white lab coat in the studio telling everyone what they should be doing. Classic. John Lydon came out with his famous quote on the '89 tour of America when they played with The Sugarcubes and Public Image Ltd (amongst others)
There were plenty of other stories as well, I'm with the "so fuck" brigade, we've alll done it at various stages why should they be any different. The tongue in cheek "Don't Do Drugs" T-shirt worn by Barney for The Roxy appearance of True Faith shows their sense of humour.
Shug wrote: The tongue in cheek "Don't Do Drugs" T-shirt worn by Barney for The Roxy appearance of True Faith shows their sense of humour.
i knew that. "we were burning the candle at both ends".
Musicians who do drugs?
I'd like a list of musicians who don't do drugs.
And I bet their music would be fucking gash.
It would be fucking Athlete or something equally piss-weak.
Emile Strunz wrote: Musicians who do drugs?
I'd like a list of musicians who don't do drugs.
And I bet their music would be fucking gash.
It would be fucking Athlete or something equally piss-weak.
jimmy blunt
J.A.K wrote:
Emile Strunz wrote: Musicians who do drugs?
I'd like a list of musicians who don't do drugs.
And I bet their music would be fucking gash.
It would be fucking Athlete or something equally piss-weak.
jimmy blunt
He makes me want to take drugs.
Like heroin.
oldmonkey wrote:
Joe Hays wrote:
oldmonkey wrote: Doubt it was acid. As for the whole subject of drugs, they are consenting adults, it's up to them. The drugs contributed to some fucking great music though!
In the book "True Faith" they mention acid use more than a couple of times.
It might have contributed negatively to their live show though, since Barney has to read to the teleprompter so much, haha!
That book is notable only for its incessant inaccuracy. It is hopelessly wrong in so many places!
but bang on the money with the diddlys/acid/trips , they were fuckin everywhere . And likewise some fookin great tunes
erm how about the ecstasy refrain on fine time
or the true faith version line
now that weve grown up together theyre all doin drugs with me?
mines a pernod and orange
theyre pumped full of drugs
I still believe the best live gigs were when Barney was on Pernod and cans of Holston Pils .
Well i for ONE won't be listening to this naughty band anymore.I din't KNOW they had taken drugs.Bloody hell the TATTON COMMUNITY CENTRE members will be gutted when i tell them this news.DRUG group in CHORLEY.Disappointed!Just off to listen to CLIFF.
