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I have to admit that I am a bit dumbfounded by this 12" reissue campaign!

When "Retro" came out, the band stated that the original Gretton conceived "Recycle" project (all the CD singles in a box - Depeche Mode style) was too ambitious and expensive and that it wouldn't sell. Now they go and do this?

I still don't have various Factory issued vinyl-only remixes on CD (the proper Run2, MTO, Shellshock extended, The Perfect Pit, etc.)!!

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Yup, I'm putting my money on an album reissue campaign within the next two years - i.e. an extra CD with rare tracks/mixes on them...

I know that if I were Warners, that's what I'd do! :p

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Yup, I'm putting my money on an album reissue campaign within the next two years

That's actually what my bet is as well, considering that their contemporaries from the 80s (Echo & the Bunnymen, The Cure, DM, etc.) are all going that route. But I still wish they'd rethink doing "Recycle." Hell, I could draft the tracklisting for them!

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I already did, some years ago - trouble is, there'd be multiple mixes/edits of the same stuff, so perhaps some demos/unreleased stuff could be thrown in too:

Movement Plus

  1. Ceremony - 4:39 Original 12" / 7" recording
  2. In A Lonely Place - 6:14 Original 12" recording
  3. In A Lonely Place - 4:39 Original 7" recording
  4. Ceremony - 4:23 Re-recorded 7" version
  5. In A Lonely Place - 6:12 Re-recorded 12" version
  6. Everything's Gone Green - 4:15 7" version
  7. Procession - 4:26
  8. Cries And Whispers - 3:23
  9. Mesh - 3:00
  10. Everything's Gone Green - 5:30 12" Version
  11. Temptation - 8:47 Original 12" version
  12. Hurt - 8:03 Original 12" version
  13. Temptation - 5:21 Original 7" version
  14. Hurt - 4:47 Original 7" version
  15. Temptation - 3:30 Edited original 7" version from Something Wild Soundtrack album (77:09)

Power, Corruption & Lies Plus

  1. Blue Monday - 4:09 Japanese Factory/Nippon Columbia TD-1098 7" version
  2. The Beach - 7:17
  3. Blue Monday - 5:05 Polish Tonpress DS-25-A 7" version
  4. Confusion - 8:13 Original 12" version
  5. Confused Beats - 6:31
  6. Confusion Instrumental - 7:36
  7. Confusion (Rough Mix) - 8:05
  8. Confusion - 4:11 Original 7" Version
  9. Confusion - 3:38 Rough Trade LC 5661 7" Version
  10. Thieves Like Us - 3:56 7" Version
  11. Lonesome Tonight - 3:54 7" Version
  12. Murder - 3:54
  13. Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) - 6:55 12" Version
  14. Thieves Like Us (Instrumental Edit) - 3:56 From Shellshock 7" (78:35)

Low-life Plus

  1. The Perfect Kiss - 8:46 Full-length 12" version
  2. The Kiss Of Death - 7:01 12" version
  3. Perfect Pit - 1:23
  4. The Perfect Kiss - 4:23 7" Version
  5. The Kiss Of Death - 5:10 7" Version
  6. The Perfect Kiss (Live Version From The Perfect Kiss Video) - 5:13 Edited live version from promotional Qwest PRO-A-2342 12"
  7. Sub-culture - 7:26 12" Version
  8. Dub-vulture - 7:56 12" Version
  9. Sub-culture - 3:25 7" Version
  10. Dub-vulture - 3:35 7" Version
  11. Sub-culture (Remix Edit) - 4:59 Belgian 7" Version Factory 7FAC133
  12. Elegia (Full Version) - 17:21 (76:38)

Brotherhood Plus

  1. Shell-shock - 6:04 Original Pretty In Pink Soundtrack Version
  2. Shellshock - 9:44 Full-length 12" Version
  3. Shellcock - 7:34
  4. State Of The Nation - 6:31 12" Version
  5. Shame Of The Nation - 7:53 12" Version
  6. State Of The Nation - 3:31 7" Version
  7. Shame Of The Nation - 3:36 7" Version
  8. Bizarre Love Triangle - 6:42 12" Version
  9. Bizarre Dub Triangle - 7:02 12" Version
  10. Bizarre Love Triangle - 3:45 7" Version
  11. Bizarre Dub Triangle - 3:26 7" Version
  12. Bizarre Love Triangle (Remixed & Edited) - 3:36 Canadian PolyGram FAC 26 7" Version
  13. Bizarre Love Triangle (Extended Edit) - 4:58 US Qwest PRO-A-2636 promotional 12" Version
  14. Bizarre Love Triangle - 3:54 Married To The Mob Soundtrack Stephen Hague Remix (78:06)

Substance Plus

  1. 1963 - 5:34
  2. True Faith - 4:10 7" Version
  3. Evil Dust - 3:43
  4. Paradise (Remix) - 6:40
  5. Touched By The Hand Of God - 7:03 12" Version
  6. Confusion Dub 1987 - 5:23
  7. Touched By The Hand Of Dub - 5:32 12" Version
  8. True Faith (Remix 7 Inch) - 4:06
  9. Salvation Theme - 2:13
  10. Touched By The Hand Of God - 5:01 Salvation! Soundtrack Original Version
  11. Let's Go - 3:43 Salvation! Soundtrack Original Version
  12. Sputnik - 2:30
  13. Skullcrusher - 2:50
  14. Touched By The Hand Of God (Remix Version) - 7:58 Salvation! Soundtrack Original Dub Version
  15. True Dub - 10:43 (77:09)

Technique Plus

  1. Blue Monday 1988 - 7:08 12" Version
  2. Beach Buggy - 4:16 7" Version
  3. Fine Time - 4:43 12" Version
  4. Don't Do It - 4:29
  5. Fine Line - 4:44
  6. Round & Round - 3:59 7" Version
  7. Best & Marsh - 3:32 7" Version
  8. Round & Round - 6:50 12" Version
  9. Best & Marsh - 4:30 12" Version
  10. Round & Round (Edit) - 3:48 US promotional Qwest PRO-CD-3463 Version
  11. Run 2 - 3:37
  12. Run 2 (Extended Version) - 5:24
  13. MTO - 3:44
  14. MTO (Minus Mix) - 5:24
  15. World In Motion… - 4:30
  16. World In Motion… (The B-Side) - 4:48
  17. World In Motion… (Carabinieri Mix) - 5:55 (78.21)

Republic Plus

  1. Regret (The New Order Mix) - 5:11
  2. Regret (Sabres Slow 'n' Lo) - 12:50
  3. Ruined In A Day (K-Klass Edit) - 3:55
  4. Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix) - 4:08
  5. Ruined In A Day (Instrumental) - 6:14
  6. World (The Price Of Dub) - 6:49
  7. Spooky (The Album Edit) - 3:44
  8. Spooky (Minimix) - 3:49
  9. True Faith (Perfecto Radio Edit) - 4:05
  10. True Faith (Sexy Disco Dub) - 5:49
  11. Let's Go (Nothing For Me) - 4:02 Non-fading US The Best Of… Qwest/Warner Bros. 9 45794-2 Version
  12. Blue Monday (Hardfloor Edit) - 4:15
  13. Blue Monday (Plutone Radio Edit) - 3:49
  14. Blue Monday (Brain Mix) - 5:23
  15. Blue Monday (Plutone Dub Mix) - 4:47 (78:50)
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steinomite wrote: I have to admit that I am a bit dumbfounded by this 12" reissue campaign!

When "Retro" came out, the band stated that the original Gretton conceived "Recycle" project (all the CD singles in a box - Depeche Mode style) was too ambitious and expensive and that it wouldn't sell. Now they go and do this?

I still don't have various Factory issued vinyl-only remixes on CD (the proper Run2, MTO, Shellshock extended, The Perfect Pit, etc.)!!

didn't you post this on the factory mailing list? welcome to the forum.

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I already did, some years ago - trouble is, there'd be multiple mixes/edits of the same stuff, so perhaps some demos/unreleased stuff could be thrown in too:

***list of stuff***

Is it just me, or is this fantasy compilation a little bit like New Order porn? What i wouldn't do to get digital versions of most of those vinyl-only tracks... sigh.

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that list of stuff is NO porn, no doubt. i dont think it would happen, i mean the Movement deluxe would not sell half as much as say, a deluxe 3CD Substance, it just wouldnt be cost effective but much stranger things have happened...

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joe Gill wrote: that list of stuff is NO porn, no doubt. i dont think it would happen, i mean the Movement deluxe would not sell half as much as say, a deluxe 3CD Substance, it just wouldnt be cost effective but much stranger things have happened...

I'd be all over a "Movement Plus". Encapsulates their early material quite nicely, even if most of it is easier to find on CD than the stuff that would accompany the other deluxe album re-releases.

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Nick King wrote: Yup, I'm putting my money on an album reissue campaign within the next two years - i.e. an extra CD with rare tracks/mixes on them..know that if I were Warners, that's what

everybody get the word out. n paper key visible significant buildings with it.monuments. towers etc. .

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Daver wrote:

joe Gill wrote: that list of stuff is NO porn, no doubt. i dont think it would happen, i mean the Movement deluxe would not sell half as much as say, a deluxe 3CD Substance, it just wouldnt be cost effective but much stranger things have happened...

I'd be all over a "Movement Plus". Encapsulates their early material quite nicely, even if most of it is easier to find on CD than the stuff that would accompany the other deluxe album re-releases.

oh yeah don't get me wrong, id be all over it too. but looking from the perspective record company executive who just wants to cash in

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joe Gill wrote: that list of stuff is NO porn, no doubt. i dont think it would happen, i mean the Movement deluxe would not sell half as much as say, a deluxe 3CD Substance, it just wouldnt be cost effective but much stranger things have happened...

Why do a 3CD Substance? It already has B-sides and remixes on disc 2! If all the Factory Studio albums got a re-release, the related B-sides (and in-between-album singles) could all be collected on the second disc anyway.

Andy

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When "Retro" came out, the band stated that the original Gretton conceived "Recycle" project (all the CD singles in a box - Depeche Mode style) was too ambitious and expensive and that it wouldn't sell. Now they go and do this?

It was London records that put the kibosh on it - Saville had taken the design quite a long way down the road when they did their sums, turned around, and worked out that the financial returns weren't worth it.

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When "Retro" came out, the band stated that the original Gretton conceived "Recycle" project (all the CD singles in a box - Depeche Mode style) was too ambitious and expensive and that it wouldn't sell. Now they go and do this?

It was London records that put the kibosh on it - Saville had taken the design quite a long way down the road when they did their sums, turned around, and worked out that the financial returns weren't worth it.

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When "Retro" came out, the band stated that the original Gretton conceived "Recycle" project (all the CD singles in a box - Depeche Mode style) was too ambitious and expensive and that it wouldn't sell. Now they go and do this?

It was London records that put the kibosh on it - Saville had taken the design quite a long way down the road when they did their sums, turned around, and worked out that the financial returns weren't worth it.

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When "Retro" came out, the band stated that the original Gretton conceived "Recycle" project (all the CD singles in a box - Depeche Mode style) was too ambitious and expensive and that it wouldn't sell. Now they go and do this?

It was London records that put the kibosh on it - Saville had taken the design quite a long way down the road when they did their sums, turned around, and worked out that the financial returns weren't worth it.

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