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Does Peter Hook like the more dance oriented music?

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I would imagine from some interviews that he prefers the Joy Division/early NO stuff, and isn't a big fan more synth based songs like Perfect Kiss or Vanishing Point and Subculture and what have you?

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why is world the second track on republic?, is the more important question.

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check out the disco in his other bands.

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I think it's easy to assume Hooky just wants to turn up his amp and play because of the persona he's built up since the Joy Division days.

But he DJs and is involved with the Hacienda classics, while if you've heard Monaco there's a big electronic element in there.

I think he dabbles in the dance scene but he sees Joy Division as something sacred, from the heart.

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Biker leathers,motorcycle boots,long flowing hair and tattoo`s. Yeah,Hooky is definitely more into the dance side of NewOrder than the rock/indie side. :blackeye:

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[orange]steve[/orange][black]one[/black] wrote: Biker leathers,motorcycle boots,long flowing hair and tattoo`s. Yeah,Hooky is definitely more into the dance side of NewOrder than the rock/indie side. :blackeye:

You would think but appearances can be deceptive.

I mean, Revenge was his first band where he could call the shots and have final say on how the songs would sound. What sort of music did Revenge put out? Mainly overproduced electronic/dance music (Wende, Pineapple Face, Slave etc.) with very little straight rock music featuring. Deadbeat is about the only all-out rawk tune I think Revenge did but even then they decided to put a more danceable remix out in the UK. The US got the guitar based original.

Also with Monaco you've got Sweet lips, Ultra, Junk, See-saw etc. Plenty of the "dance side" of things. They also did a cover of that Bee Gees number in a very House-y manner.

I'd wager Hooky's as much into dance music as the other members of New Order but as he's had a certain "macho" image (the leathers etc.) in the past he's sometimes branded as "the" rock'n'roll influence.

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hooky's main issue with some of the dance oriented songs in new order,such as true faith, were that the bass was mixed too low for his liking.

as said before his own bands made dance music and he doesn't mind spinning a good disco.

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NOOLigan wrote: hooky's main issue with some of the dance oriented songs in new order,such as true faith, were that the bass was mixed too low for his liking.

Yeah but this is the standard Hooky (and indeed bass player's) grumble regarding pretty much any song. He even said (jokingly I think) in that Manchester Q Special how the bass wasn't loud enough for his liking on Closer! One of the best sounding records any member of New Order has ever been involved in.

We all love Hooky's bass obviously but there have been some live shows where it's been far too loud in the mix and you can see Barney getting visibly pissed off.

Quite funny really when they start shooting dirty looks at each other :laugh:

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Then again, even Stephen hague admitted the bass in True Faith was too low in the mix.

Although to be honest I don't see the connection between wanting his bass to be heard in the mix and liking dance music.

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Wasim wrote: Although to be honest I don't see the connection between wanting his bass to be heard in the mix and liking dance music.

You're not alone there...

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[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:

Wasim wrote: Although to be honest I don't see the connection between wanting his bass to be heard in the mix and liking dance music.

You're not alone there...

there isn't one. the point was that he didn't like the synth based songs. he only dislikes those because the bass is mixed too low. that was my point.

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Hybrid "True To Form" is a perfect example of a decent dance track featuring Hooky's bass high in the mix - a classic...

Yeah, Hooky likes both the dance music as well as you're more rocky/punky music as evidenced by his side projects. :)

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In order to understand what kind of music Hooky likes, perhaps you should listen to the music he plays.

I would suggest that you would discover that he likes GOOD music.

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I would suggest that you would discover that he likes GOOD music.

Does he do Wedding's ?

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I think he sort of does like the dance music type stuff. Just look at the songs "Sweet Lips", "See-Saw" by Monaco. Also, under Monaco, he covered the BeeGees song, "You should be dancing". Well, him being in New Order, I can imagine he respects both dance music and rock music.

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[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:

[orange]steve[/orange][black]one[/black] wrote: Biker leathers,motorcycle boots,long flowing hair and tattoo`s. Yeah,Hooky is definitely more into the dance side of NewOrder than the rock/indie side.

I mean, Revenge was his first band where he could call the shots and have final say on how the songs would sound. What sort of music did Revenge put out? Mainly overproduced electronic/dance music (Wende, Pineapple Face, Slave etc.) with very little straight rock music featuring. Deadbeat is about the only all-out rawk tune I think Revenge did but even then they decided to put a more danceable remix out in the UK. The US got the guitar based original.

Also with Monaco ... / in a very House-y manner.

I'd wager Hooky's as much into dance music as the other members of New Order but as he's had a certain "macho" image (the leathers etc.) in the past he's sometimes branded as "the" rock'n'roll influence.

true. Most everything that he had say and play in can dance though. and Dance very hard so I'm not sure what kind of guidelines or parameters are getting set. Classical & Jazz can dance too but that's not the question..

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Have I ever mentioned the lock in we got with Hooky up in Glasgow back in 2004? :uhoh:

It was clear to us that if Hooky had his way we would see Age Of Consent, Sunrise and Ceremony ALL the time!

:beer:

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Shug wrote: Have I ever mentioned the lock in we got with Hooky up in Glasgow back in 2004? :uhoh: It was clear to us that if Hooky had his way we would see Age Of Consent, Sunrise and Ceremony ALL the time!:beer:

sounds good anytime anywhere. Whether or not Peter Hook likes the more dance oriented music he does spin a good Disco. looked around AOL music the other day and they've listed the Confusion video plus others.

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Defo prefers dance- Revenge, Monaco, his DJing and the Hac release all confirm it.

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Imagine him being more rock oriented and Barney more dance-oriented for some reason and if that is true then the dance-rock sound NO has established over the years is a perfect marriage.

I could see them clashing musically as well in the past but Hooky seems very much a team player and smart enough to realize the direction of the band both musically and commercially.

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Bernard had a monopoly on the synths back in the day. White lab coat phase. Hooky was worried he and the rest of the band would be phased out. I think that fear has ebbed since the reunion.

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sorry, but it just doesnt sit right with me that you guys keep trying to separate NewOrderROCK with NewOrderElectronic.....(notice I didnt use the word DANCE here....cause rock music is dance music anyway)

It has always been my hope that they just have a sort of creative process that causes things to end up the way they end up, without any contrived end-product in mind,,,,just the music they want to create at the time.

am I out of line here?

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Take a look back at the Uncut interview from late '98 or was it early '99? He's quoted in there about it and says more or less that he can do electronic shit in his sleep (points out his role in TBTHOG etc), and that it's the great bass riffs that get his rocks off so to speak. I'm sure someone has a copy. I ran across mine, and reread it, interesting interview, and he states pretty clearly that he's far more interested in bass playing than the synth side of things.

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