If you could lose one song from an album...
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Plain Lazy wrote:
Gnome Alone wrote:
Broken Promise
Tsk Tsk
I know, right? Broken Promise is one of their best rock tracks!
£50 Note wrote:
Plain Lazy wrote:
Gnome Alone wrote:
Broken Promise
Tsk Tsk
I know, right? Broken Promise is one of their best rock tracks!
Deffo on my top 10 NO list ............ forever!!!!!! 
Plain Lazy wrote:
£50 Note wrote:
Plain Lazy wrote:
Gnome Alone wrote:
Broken Promise
Tsk Tsk
I know, right? Broken Promise is one of their best rock tracks!
Deffo on my top 10 NO list ............ forever!!!!!!
Never liked it... 
But then I can never understand the hatred for We All Stand or Run Wild, for example... To each his(/her) own, I suppose...
SHEDi xxx
i would lose We All Stand for sure. i do love the live versions though! Republic and Get Ready are both hit and miss really, i'd loose quite a few of the songs. Low-Life can stay as it is...although i wouldnt say no to the full length TPK (and possibly Let's Go early vocal)
I actually like Fine Time myself, but I feel it would've worked better as a stand alone single and not on the album.
For me, the same applies for TBK and didn't need to be on the album in any form. As has been pointed out already, the edit was crudely executed and removed the whole reason for the track (even the last verse) and sounds very much like the last minute consideration that I understand it to be.
I don't know if the added State Of The Nation on the CD version of Brotherhood really counts as that was just added at re-issue stage and I don't see it as a bonafide track off the album, but I would certainly not have it there myself.
Maybe I Told You So from WFTSC and Liar from Republic as well.
Just realised that I put TBK.
Which as any dyslexic will tell you, is a brand of tape.
Obviously meant to say TPK. :o
I personally wouldn't remove anything because without the piss tracks, we'd have nothing to bitch about on this forum!
But for the hell of it...
Movement: Senses. I dunno. It just doesn't do much for me. PC&L: The Village Low Life: The Perfect Kiss edit.. blah. Brotherhood: As It Is When It Was. This song could put me to sleep. Technique: I guess Fine Time. Republic: Liar. For sure. I quite like the rest. Get Ready: Run Wild. Sorry. It can be a b-side if it wants, but Sabotage as the album closer. What release is that on anyways!? Though I did like Sputnik's cover of Run Wild alot. Waiting For The Sirens' Call: Working Overtime. Yup. Too jangly guitarish.
But again, I'd keep everything on there personally.
Low Life now... I think I will make new friends... erm... I wonder which song is the more hurtful to my ears : love vigilantes or face up ? (If you let the question of TPK edit apart)
Jiphy wrote: Low Life now... I think I will make new friends... erm... I wonder which song is the more hurtful to my ears : love vigilantes or face up ? (If you let the question of TPK edit apart)
It's so strange the way we hear and rate NO tracks... Love Vigilantes is my favourite NO track and in my top 5 songs of all time... But you're perfectly entitled to your opinion, Jiphy...
SHEDi xxx
Gnome Alone wrote: It's so strange the way we hear and rate NO tracks... Love Vigilantes is my favourite NO track and in my top 5 songs of all time...
SHEDi xxx
That is why these topics or the New Order cup are interesting.
For the next cup, we should play groups like in the real cup. Four songs in each group, three matches. The first one of the group is the one which won every match or has the largest amount of voices... Then following this logic, the second is to be qualified and some thirds (with the most numerous votes) could go through to the final stage of the competition.
Gnome Alone wrote:
Jiphy wrote: Low Life now... I think I will make new friends... erm... I wonder which song is the more hurtful to my ears : love vigilantes or face up ? (If you let the question of TPK edit apart)
It's so strange the way we hear and rate NO tracks... Love Vigilantes is my favourite NO track and in my top 5 songs of all time...
SHEDi xxx
The production on the bass and drums is awful
From Power Corruption and Lies-Ultravilence
From Republic-Chemical
From Get Reday-Rock the Shack
From WFTSC- I told you so, Dracula´s castle, GIAUE and Working Overtime.
Most of you are certifiably insane!
Movement: Senses (interesting live, shoddy on-record)
PC&L: We All Stand (Peel Sessions version is better)
Low-Life: TPK edit (include the full version or give us Let's Go)
Brotherhood: Weirdo (just don't care for it, and I LIKE Way of Life)
Technique: Guilty Partner (much better live)
Republic: Times Change (keep the rapping to Electronic, OK?)
Get Ready: Rock the Shack (awesome guitar in Shoot Speed/Kill Light should have stayed there)
WFTSC: Jetstream ( 
)
Movement - don't think I'd remove anything. Power, Corruption & Lies - We All Stand Low-Life - Never really liked Face Up Brotherhood - Most of it, especially Every Little Counts Technique - Nothing, absolutely flawless Republic - Nothing Get Ready - Rock the Shack, Slow Jam Waiting for the Sirens Call - Working Overtime
Now to chart the most painful inclusions I've seen from people:
Slow Jam: I admit I think I'm the only guy on the planet who likes the song. It's a chuga-chuga kind of tune, a bit slow moving, but i love the chorus lyric wise and how it's performed.
Times Change: Quite a few people hate it, but I love the lyrics and the chorus is one of my favorite ever.
Weirdo: My favorite song on Brotherhood by a country mile, far and away my favorite, and yet several people absolutely hate it. Interesting. I love the intro, the chorus, and the vocals.
Love Less: Initially my favorite ever song, than my favorite on Technique, it's slipped a little but I still love it.
Sub Culture: Horrible mix at the end, the sound goes to shite, not sure why but I still love it, and obviously some hate it.
Face UP: multiple votes for this one, and yet another that I love and find fun and energetic and thoroughly different than their style but still very similar, particularly the ending.
All of side 2 on Republic (What about Special?!?!)
Someone Like You: I guess this sounds like dance by the numbers, but I still am fond of it. Not a classic but I like it.
Guilty Partner: I will admit it was my most hated track on Technique until I got sick of Fine Time. Over time it's grown on me and while not a favorite, is still a tune I'd say is solid.
Sooner than you think: Lots of people chose this, why? Bizarre subject matter, and I often wonder what the original lyrics were on that bootleg record I lost of a concert where this was called "Aleph", but still it's a beautiful song, really interesting and beautiful.
As it is when it was?!?! The only issue i've ever had with it is the drums, they should have used the bongo's R.E.M. used with, "King of Birds" live, as this song begs to have the drum kit thrown out the window and a more subtle approach used. Broken Promise: Couple votes for this, with it's supposed "Isolation" riff rip off I often have felt it was one of their best straight ahead rockers.
Love Vigilantes: How is this chosen? I've never seen it as a classic top 5 song as others have, but get rid of it?!?!
every little counts: Tons of people hate it, I dont, and I love the bit where it pauses, and then goes into that beautiful synth finale that is then unfortunately squelched by the sound effects, and needle being dragged across a record effect.
Thieves: I didnt see this listed, but another fan did, so maybe I missed it. Two of my best friends, and also fans of the band equally hate it, mostly due to the lyrics, and the vocals on the chorus, and yet I'd list it up there with their best ever material (for me Age of Consent, BLT, 1963, Mr. Disco, Run etc).
Stephen Smith wrote: Now to chart the most painful inclusions I've seen from people:
Slow Jam: I admit I think I'm the only guy on the planet who likes the song. It's a chuga-chuga kind of tune, a bit slow moving, but i love the chorus lyric wise and how it's performed.
Times Change: Quite a few people hate it, but I love the lyrics and the chorus is one of my favorite ever.
Weirdo: My favorite song on Brotherhood by a country mile, far and away my favorite, and yet several people absolutely hate it. Interesting. I love the intro, the chorus, and the vocals.
Love Less: Initially my favorite ever song, than my favorite on Technique, it's slipped a little but I still love it.
Sub Culture: Horrible mix at the end, the sound goes to shite, not sure why but I still love it, and obviously some hate it.
Face UP: multiple votes for this one, and yet another that I love and find fun and energetic and thoroughly different than their style but still very similar, particularly the ending.
All of side 2 on Republic (What about Special?!?!)
Someone Like You: I guess this sounds like dance by the numbers, but I still am fond of it. Not a classic but I like it.
Guilty Partner: I will admit it was my most hated track on Technique until I got sick of Fine Time. Over time it's grown on me and while not a favorite, is still a tune I'd say is solid.
Sooner than you think: Lots of people chose this, why? Bizarre subject matter, and I often wonder what the original lyrics were on that bootleg record I lost of a concert where this was called "Aleph", but still it's a beautiful song, really interesting and beautiful.
As it is when it was?!?! The only issue i've ever had with it is the drums, they should have used the bongo's R.E.M. used with, "King of Birds" live, as this song begs to have the drum kit thrown out the window and a more subtle approach used. Broken Promise: Couple votes for this, with it's supposed "Isolation" riff rip off I often have felt it was one of their best straight ahead rockers.
Love Vigilantes: How is this chosen? I've never seen it as a classic top 5 song as others have, but get rid of it?!?!
every little counts: Tons of people hate it, I dont, and I love the bit where it pauses, and then goes into that beautiful synth finale that is then unfortunately squelched by the sound effects, and needle being dragged across a record effect.
Thieves: I didnt see this listed, but another fan did, so maybe I missed it. Two of my best friends, and also fans of the band equally hate it, mostly due to the lyrics, and the vocals on the chorus, and yet I'd list it up there with their best ever material (for me Age of Consent, BLT, 1963, Mr. Disco, Run etc).
Any songs that you don't care for then? 
Sheds on a Plane wrote:
Any songs that you don't care for then?
Sure. Movement-I hate nearly the entire album.
PCL: We All Stand could be flushed and I wouldn't care at all, while they're at it they could ditch that opening 97 second intro to 5 8 6.
Low-Life: Get rid of the edit of Perfect Kiss, either include the longform or drop it from the album entirely.
Brotherhood: Hated the version of BLT used, should have been the single version or the Married to the Mob Remix (far and away the best version of the song)
Technique: Fine Time, probably should have been stand alone single as others have mentioned.
Republc: Ditch the album and make it an ep:
Regret-Everyone Everywhere-Times Change-Special-Avalanche
I doubt people would have hated Republic nearly as much if it were an EP with only those songs (some might prefer Ruined in a day to Times Change, I do not).
Get Ready: I can deal alright with every song, even Run Wild which I never disliked, just thought was mediocre, only the 60mph lyric and title needs to be changed to 90mph or at least something that actually makes sense.
WFTSC: Get Rid of I told you so. I hate GIAUE as well for the most part, but I'd still be willing to keep it. Working Overtime is pointless but I'm not gonna demand it's exclusion.
