Discography: Krafty

Edit: 2006-08-08, updated discography information.

In my work to update the New Order Discography I am seeking the feedback of collectors to check if I have missed something. The turn has now come to Krafty. Are any items missed? Any DJ remixes made?

(Again, sorry for the formatting...)

12": UK 2005 (London Records NUOX13) 12": UK 2005 (London Records NUOX13) [Alchemy double sided acetate] 3:47 Krafty (single edit) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix)

2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. 42800-0) [Disc 1] 7:52 Krafty (morel's pink noise vocal) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 8:18 Krafty (dj dan vocal) 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub version) [Disc 2] 9:00 Krafty (eric kupper club mix) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 6:57 Krafty (riton re-rub remix) 7:30 Krafty (morel's pink noise dub)

2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-A-101531-A) [promo] 2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-A-101531) [promo] [Disc 1] 9:00 Krafty (eric kupper club mix) 4:33 Krafty (album version) 7:52 Krafty (morel's pink noise vocal) 5:54 Krafty (the glimmers dub version) [Disc 2] 8:18 Krafty (dj dan vocal) 6:54 Krafty (riton re-rub remix) 7:30 Krafty (morel's pink noise dub) 7:06 Krafty (phones reality mix)

CD5: GE 2005 (Warner Music/London 50-50467-7821) CD5: UK 2005 (London Records NUOCD13) 3:47 Krafty (single edit) 4:33 Krafty (album version)

CD5: GE 2005 (London Records 50-50467-7822) CD5: UK 2005 (London Records NUCDP13) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 3:24 Krafty (andy green remix) 4:53 Krafty (re-edit of album version) 3:47 Krafty [video]

CDR: AU 2005 (Warner Music 5046780312) 3:47 Krafty (single edit) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 3:24 Krafty (andy green remix) 4:33 Krafty (album version)

CD5: US 2005 (Warner Bros. 42800-2) 3:47 Krafty (single edit) 7:52 Krafty (morel's pink noise vocal) 8:18 Krafty (dj dan vocal) 9:00 Krafty (eric kupper club mix) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 6:57 Krafty (riton re-rub remix)

CD5: IS 2005 (London Records PRO15273) [promo] CD5: JP 2005 (London Records PRO15273) [promo] + CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15273) [promo] CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15273) [promo] [black silk-screen] CD5: US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-CDR-101515) [promo] CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] CDR: US 2005 (Warner Bros.) [promo] 3:47 Krafty (single edit)

CDR: UK 2005 (Warner Bros. UK) [promo] 3:24 Krafty (andy green remix)

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15313) [promo] ["Krafty Mixes"] CDR: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15313) [promo] 3:47 Krafty (radio edit) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 6:57 Krafty (riton re-dub remix) [spelling error]

CDR: AU 2005 (EastWest WCDB606) [promo] CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15314) [promo] ["Krafty Mixes"] CDR: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15314) [promo] 3:47 Krafty (radio edit) 3:24 Krafty (andy green remix) 4:33 Krafty (album version)

CDR: UK 2005 (London Records/Alchemy) [promo] ["Phones Reality Remix"] 7:05 Krafty (phones reality remix cd) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality remix vinyl)

CDR: UK 2005 (London Records/Alchemy) [promo] ["Eqd & Limited Remixes"] 6:52 Krafty (glimmers twelve inch extended) 5:22 Krafty (glimmers dub version) 5:53 Krafty (glimmers alternative dub version) 6:54 Krafty (riton remix) 3:22 Krafty (andy green master remix) 3:22 Krafty (andy green vox up mix)

CDR: AU 2005 (EastWest WCDB927) [promo] 3:47 Krafty (radio edit) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub version) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 6:57 Krafty (riton re-dub remix) [spelling error] 3:24 Krafty (andy green remix) 4:33 Krafty (album version)

CD5: US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-CD-101536) [promo] CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] CDR: US 2005 (Warner Bros.) [promo] 3:52 Krafty (radio edit) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix)

CDR: US 2005 (Warner Bros.)[Promo] ["Krafty Remixes"] 7:38 Krafty (the passengerz revolution club) 8:10 Krafty (dj dan dub)

• UK release with sticker.

• Two versions of the Glimmers' dub exists, "The Glimmers Dub Version" and "The Glimmers Alternative Dub Version". The track times are 5:22 and 5:53. It is not fully which one is which, and which releases contain what track.

• "Single Edit" and "Radio Edit" are the same.

/TLV

CD5: GE 2005 (London Records ???)

50-50467-7822

CD: AU 2005 (Warner Music 5046780312) and it is a cd and not a cdr. 3:47 Krafty (single edit) this is called the Radio edit (ok saw your +) 6:52 Krafty (the glimmers 12" extended mix) 7:05 Krafty (phones reality mix) 3:24 Krafty (andy green remix) 4:33 Krafty (album version)

...á propos 'this page', Nic: how about the completing the discography with this ?...

'WFTSC' (NUOCD 15)

1. Rich Costey Mix
2. Jacknife Lee Remix

cheers, The Saviour.

Spotnick wrote: I guess you checked this page?

It's probably not complete of course, but then again check the discography thread in the technical forum, I'm sure people posted omissions there.

I just need time or help to update those.

Yes, I've done that. And the discography thread. Good stuff.

Believe me, I know how hard it is to find time to do this...

;)

/TLV

TLV wrote: 12": UK 2005 (London Records NUOX13) 12": UK 2005 (London Records NUOX13) [Alchemy double sided acetate] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix)

2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. 42800-0) [Disc 1] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub version)

2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-A-101531-A) [promo] 2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-A-101531) [promo] [Disc 1] 5:54 Krafty (the glimmers dub version)

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15313) [promo] ["Krafty Mixes"] CDR: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15313) [promo] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix)

CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] 5:22 Krafty (glimmers dub version) 5:53 Krafty (glimmers alternative dub version)

CDR: AU 2005 (EastWest WCDB927) [promo] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix)

Probably need to reach consensus on which timing is actually the Glimmers Dub version and which is the Alternative Dub. The NUOX13 12" Glimmers Dub actually only runs 5.22. So the timing is misprinted (and it is possibly the Alternative Dub).

Also, weren't there a few Krafty white labels floating about very early on? Scarce but I'm sure a couple made it onto eBay. Unless they were the acetates - I'd have to see the sleeves.

:\pimp3:

...folks, folks, this is another 'discography' or 'amendments' thread - congratulations !...

...I suggest to establish a FORUM about amendments to the discography, because it fits to this website, even more, than a 'mondial' thing does...

...and the discography segment must be cultivated better...

cheers, The Saviour.

The Saviour wrote: ...folks, folks, this is another 'discography' or 'amendments' thread - congratulations !...

...I suggest to establish a FORUM about amendments to the discography, because it fits to this website, even more, than a 'mondial' thing does...

...and the discography segment must be cultivated better...

cheers, The Saviour.

Not sure if you're aware of the genesis of this thread, Saviour. TLV is in the process of updating the original Niagara NO Discography, not the NOOL Discography. A monster task these days, so he's asked for assistance in these threads.

As for the NOOL Discography, it needs a massive update but no one seems to have the time to do it. I'm not sure of the value of having TLV's, David's and NOOL's discographies all meeting the same ends, but that's how it's evolved.

If I was Spotto, I'd create a NOOL Discography forum with a moderator and a peer process where you'd have a thread for each new release and members could add new info for the moderator to update. Eventually the threads would get finalised and consolidated into the Discography.

:\pimp3:

depthcharge wrote:

TLV wrote: 12": UK 2005 (London Records NUOX13) 12": UK 2005 (London Records NUOX13) [Alchemy double sided acetate] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix)

2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. 42800-0) [Disc 1] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub version)

2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-A-101531-A) [promo] 2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-A-101531) [promo] [Disc 1] 5:54 Krafty (the glimmers dub version)

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15313) [promo] ["Krafty Mixes"] CDR: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15313) [promo] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix)

CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] 5:22 Krafty (glimmers dub version) 5:53 Krafty (glimmers alternative dub version)

CDR: AU 2005 (EastWest WCDB927) [promo] 5:53 Krafty (the glimmers dub mix)

Probably need to reach consensus on which timing is actually the Glimmers Dub version and which is the Alternative Dub. The NUOX13 12" Glimmers Dub actually only runs 5.22. So the timing is misprinted (and it is possibly the Alternative Dub).

I haven't kept up with my collecting so I can't check the information that much. Any help here is appreciated.

There always seems to be different edits of the same named tracks around (World, WiM, etc.)... Life would be a lot easier if they named the tracks "correctly".

I can always mark individual tracks to have "track timing and name unconfirmed".

depthcharge wrote: As for the NOOL Discography, it needs a massive update but no one seems to have the time to do it. I'm not sure of the value of having TLV's, David's and NOOL's discographies all meeting the same ends, but that's how it's evolved.

If I was Spotto, I'd create a NOOL Discography forum with a moderator and a peer process where you'd have a thread for each new release and members could add new info for the moderator to update. Eventually the threads would get finalised and consolidated into the Discography.

I believe that WiM's discography is a reflection over David's collection - which in itself is almost like a discography. The items in bold are the ones that he has.

Obviously I think that the Discography @ Niagara is the best... ;) What I don't like with the WiM one are the dead links and the awful formatting (no offence David). The NOOL discography doesn't seem to be focusing on being as comprehensive as the Niagara one. Plus, it doesn't really work well with Firefox.

Instead of another forum for discography discussions, perhaps Nick should make the NOOL discography wiki-style? :)

/TLV

TLV wrote: Obviously I think that the Discography @ Niagara is the best... ;) What I don't like with the WiM one are the dead links and the awful formatting (no offence David). The NOOL discography doesn't seem to be focusing on being as comprehensive as the Niagara one. Plus, it doesn't really work well with Firefox.

Instead of another forum for discography discussions, perhaps Nick should make the NOOL discography wiki-style? :)

/TLV

The Niagara one is always the first reference point for me. Its history, simple yet precise layout and near-exhaustive detail make it a winner.

Wiki may work for the NOOL Discography and indeed Nic may see it as a great way to lighten his load. Personally I prefer to have some level of regulation to avoid those issues that arise with Wiki entries in general.

I'd contribute either way.

Be interested to hear what Nic thinks.

:\pimp3:

Worst part is - I have that one !

Not sure if you're aware of the genesis of this thread, Saviour.

...yes I am Simon, and I'll try to give Torbjoern the best assistance I have...

As for the NOOL Discography, it needs a massive update.

...indeed...

Plus, it doesn't really work well with Firefox.

... (sic!) ... :(

If I was Spotto, I'd create a NOOL Discography forum with a moderator and a peer process where you'd have a thread for each new release and members could add new info for the moderator to update. Eventually the threads would get finalised and consolidated into the Discography.

...I agree...

...Nic, please give us advice...

cheers, The Saviour.

Another sampler :

'Spring 2006 : Remix Licensing Reel' Warner Bros. USA, Cat. nr. PRO-CDR-101767 07.52 Krafty (Morel´s Pink Noise Vocal) 08.21 Jetstream (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)

I've updated the entry in the first post to reflect current information.

The scans I have that will be in the Discography are:

• NUOCD13
• NUCDP13
• UK 1tr CDR
• UK 1tr CDR, "Andy Green"
• US 1tr CDR
• US 1tr CD promo
• UK 2tr CDR
• UK 2tr Alchemy CDR
• US 2tr CDR
• PRO15273/PRO15313/PRO15314
• WCDB606/WCDB927
• UK Alchemy CDR with the Glimmers Alternative Dub
• PRO-A-101531

If you have other scans you think should be in there, please let me know.

I will now move on to the other entries...

/TLV