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And why?

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Well, none of those I listed on my "most hated...ever" thread...that's for sure!! :D :D

Anyway Cheekeh - you referring to ANY songs or just New Order ones?? ;)

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Any - although given your random knowledge of music you could make it up and I would be none the wiser! ;)

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Ooooh... you got me going now Cheekeh - expect a very very long list then....

But then, on the other hand...perhaps not.... :lol: :evil4:

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After your 'Most Hated' Posts there can't be many songs left can there?! :lol:

My choice today goes to 'Run Wild' in parts (the Jesus comes to take your hand etc.)

Also 'For the Dead' Gene.

Could you tell the Monkey is morbid today? :lol:

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For when yer in love - Love minus zero - Dylan When ye've just split up - Idiot Wind - Dylan

NO / JD related

Dream Attack - New Order 24 Hours - Joy Division

4 classics!

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Shug, I thought you'd have picked 'It's all over now baby blue' for the split up song :lol:

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Um...Blue Monday.

Why? Two words...

ROYALTIES, BABY!

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Ideology - Billy Bragg Good morning Britain - Aztec Camera / Mick Jones In My Life - Beatles Tangled up in blue - Dylan

fuck - better stop there! I'll be here all fookin night:lol:

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Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Shug, I thought you'd have picked 'It's all over now baby blue' for the split up song :lol:

or an even better one......It ain't me babe;)

Basically I'd love to have wrote anything by Dylan - in my eyes the greatest lyricist ever:nod: Don't get me wrong, he wrote a lot of sheeite an all - but he's still untouchable (pity about his singing eh?:lol: )

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Well - here's FOUR New Order ones:

Your Silent Face. Vanishing Point. The Perfect Kiss. Thieves Like Us.

So simple. So pure. So glacial. So beautiful.

And here's FOUR other ones.

Mr Self Destruct - by Nine Inch Nails. (So violent, so psychotic, so brutal, so fooking noisy.) Sleep Late My Lady Friend - by Harry Nilsson. (So unutterably gorgeous, longing, yearning and effective) Sparkle Up - by The High Llamas. (Just beautiful early- morning-sun-rising-over-the-Californian-valley music) Tom's Song - by The Trammps. (one of my best loved 1970s soul instrumentals from the golden age of Philly Sound ever...swooon!)

as you can see, wild mood swings don't even come close to describing the emotional range on display here...but that's The Martian for yer - eclectically all over the shop as ever... :nod:

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Originally posted by ShugZV > Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey> Shug, I thought you'd have picked 'It's all over now baby blue' for the split up song :lol:

or an even better one......It ain't me babe;) but Idiot Wind is so vicious and nasty - it comes from within - explains all his feelings after the break up from his missus - get the lyrics and listen to the song - fookin quality!! Hard Rain 76 concert is the best recording of this;)

Basically I'd love to have wrote anything by Dylan - in my eyes the greatest lyricist ever:nod: Don't get me wrong, he wrote a lot of sheeite an all - but he's still untouchable (pity about his singing eh?:lol: )

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Shug - Agreed Dylans singing is shite whatever song, he even manages to make the Rolling Moss Gatherers look talented on their version of Rolling Stone!

Marty - anything other than ecclectic would be a disappointment! :lol:

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I actually like the sound of a hoover at work;) only kidding of course - it's sung the way it's meant to - but I can understand it irritates a lot of people. To be truthful I don't play any Dylan after Slow Train Coming 78. My Dad and his brothers go to see him at every opportunity when he plays in Britain - but I've heard the bootlegs, and you can't make out 3 words in a row - unless yer a diehard Bobcat! His Never ending tour shoulda ended 10 years ago:evil4:

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Mmm Dylans singing, Hoover at work, Jack hammer at work?! Same difference to me.

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Jackhammer at work?? :eek: :eek:

Shite!!!... You been eavesdropping on me wanking again then have you darling???? :o

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Dirty Boy! :nonono: :lol:

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:lol: Trust Marty to bring it down a level - it's usually moi who does that kinda thing:evil4:

Bringing it back on topic.....

Sympathy for the devil - The Stones Can't get out of bed (very apt) - The Charlatans Weirdo - Charlies again God's Cop - The Mondays I am the Resurrection - Stone Roses..........................................................................................and on, Harrison and on, and on................................:lol:

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:lol:

Can't get out of bed - so appropriate to many I feel! :)

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Speaking of bed:idea:

one last song before I feck off then.....

How? - John Lennon

Good night, God Bless, yer a great audience, every last single one of ya........except for that guy over there......with the dark glasses:evil4:

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I wish I had written Leaving on a Jet Plane, so I could sue the order...

I guess Old Johnny Denver got his just deserts though...

oops...that was not a very nice thing to say was it???

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I wish I would have written: MBV-Soft as Snow(but warm inside)It is Just fooking cool! NO-Your Silent Face(most beautiful song ever written-lyrics are just cool) Perfect Circle-3 Libras (reminds me of an old friend) LUSH-Etheriel(the lyrics to it were how I felt in high school about a special person) Juliana Hatfield-UGLY (So that I could have changed the damn words-they really are horrible :lol: ;)

More coming soon.......:jump:

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Originally posted by ShugZV Good morning Britain - Aztec Camera / Mick Jones

Good choice there, Shug, though I can definitely live without Fatboy Slim's remix. :nonono:

As for Dylan, I'd like to have written Visions of Johanna or Idiot Wind.

JD/NO would be Isolation, Decades, or KWI

Others: Talking Heads-Heaven and Memories Can't Wait The Jam- Strange Town (for the isolated moments when living in a hopeless town)

That'll do for now.

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Close Range does it for me

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True Faith also...it is so Special...gee, Special also...oh boy, this could get long...

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sonic youth-sugar kane (i love those guitars) helium-leon's space song (it's a totally unique song, i wish i had imagination like that) new order-ceremony (who wish they didn't?) lush-lovelife (it's real dreamy) yo la tengo-motel 6 (it's real dreamy)

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Just a quick question about lyrics which i hope doesnt get lost in this thread..

Does anyone know if Barney helped Ian write any JD lyrics in the early years or was Ian solely responsible for them? What about Hooky? we know he sung a bit (DNE) did he partake in any lyric writing as well???

& Songs i'd wish i'd written.. * This Time of Night * Face Up * End Of the World As We Know It - REM.

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"Disorder" the lyrics,the guitar riff,the bass-line,all the woshing & woo-ing. the bastards,i'll curse'em till the day i die!

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Originally posted by -I:D- Does anyone know if Barney helped Ian write any JD lyrics in the early years or was Ian solely responsible for them?

"He was a catalyst for the rest of us.He would....cement our ideas together.We would write all the music,but Ian would direct us.He'd say "I like that bit of guitar,I like that bass line,I like that drum riff".And then I would arrange it - mostly I would arrange it,with additional suggestions from the other members of the band.He'd put the lyrics in later,but he always had some ready.He had a big box with lyrics in.He brought our ideas together in his own way,really. That was the first thing we missed....He came up with all the vocal melodies. He did some guitar on one or two,but it was pretty straightforward.He hated playing anyway.We made him play.He played in quite a bizarre way and that to us was intresting,because no one would play like Ian. He played in a very manic way.We thought it was good,we liked the way he did it" :Bernard Sumner

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Originally posted by John Sweeney > Originally posted by -I:D-> > Does anyone know if Barney helped Ian write any JD lyrics in the early years or was Ian solely responsible for them?

"He was a catalyst for the rest of us.He would....cement our ideas together.We would write all the music,but Ian would direct us.He'd say "I like that bit of guitar,I like that bass line,I like that drum riff".And then I would arrange it - mostly I would arrange it,with additional suggestions from the other members of the band.He'd put the lyrics in later,but he always had some ready.He had a big box with lyrics in.He brought our ideas together in his own way,really. That was the first thing we missed....He came up with all the vocal melodies. He did some guitar on one or two,but it was pretty straightforward.He hated playing anyway.We made him play.He played in quite a bizarre way and that to us was intresting,because no one would play like Ian. He played in a very manic way.We thought it was good,we liked the way he did it" :Bernard Sumner

Cheers :) its interesting to see how much actual influence Barney had on Ian which Barney took and crossed over into NewOrder.

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That Unchained Melody shite. Not coz I like the song but with the 8,000 times it's be covered and got to no.1, whoever wrote it must be minted

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White Christmas, for the same reasons Briggsy gives !

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Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by ShugZV> > Good morning Britain - Aztec Camera / Mick Jones

Good choice there, Shug, though I can definitely live without Fatboy Slim's remix. :nonono:

As for Dylan, I'd like to have written Visions of Johanna or Idiot Wind.

JD/NO would be Isolation, Decades, or KWI

Others: Talking Heads-Heaven and Memories Can't Wait The Jam- Strange Town (for the isolated moments when living in a hopeless town)

That'll do for now.

:clap: Haven't had the pleasure of hearing fat boy's remix mate - so I guess I'm lucky;) Strange Town / When you're young by The Jam are 2 I'd pick as well mate:nod:

On the same lines of Sebsy and Timbo - I'd pick Happy Birthday:evil4:

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heh. :evil2:

i can't give you a single song. i can, however, give you a single album.

Curve. Cuckoo

:D

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Anything by the Specials between 1979 and 1981. Utter unimpeachable class. :nod:

I'm still in awe of that sound and era to this day....

:cool2: :cool2:

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Originally posted by ShugZV > Originally posted by Green> > > > Originally posted by ShugZV> > > > > > > > On the same lines of Sebsy and Timbo - I'd pick Happy Birthday:evil4:>

Only cos you nearly went blind over Clare Grogan :lol:

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speaking of that era Huberto - I'll throw in yet another few

Olivers Army - Elvis Costello Baggy Trousers - Madness Too much too young - Specials God save the queen - Pistols

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Originally posted by Bagpuss > Originally posted by ShugZV> > > > Originally posted by Green> > > > > > > Originally posted by ShugZV> > > > > > > > > > > > On the same lines of Sebsy and Timbo - I'd pick Happy Birthday:evil4:> > >

Only cos you nearly went blind over Clare Grogan :lol:

And she's a Tim - Tim;) Preferred Debbie Harry mesel - she could leave me hanging on the telephone:evil4:

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i remember nothing, because everything i write ends up sounding like it anyway (this was true before i even heard the song.) but i can't really sing, so i would just scream the lyrics.

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Originally posted by ShugZV > O> :clap: Haven't had the pleasure of hearing fat boy's remix mate - so I guess I'm lucky;) Strange Town / When you're young by The Jam are 2 I'd pick as well mate:nod:> > On the same lines of Sebsy and Timbo - I'd pick Happy Birthday:evil4:

Since when has anyone bought a copy of 'Happy Birthday'?

On the Jam theme, Butterfly Collector was class, their best I reckon. On a b-side too.

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Says it all really....

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Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by ShugZV> > > > O> > :clap: Haven't had the pleasure of hearing fat boy's remix mate - so I guess I'm lucky;) Strange Town / When you're young by The Jam are 2 I'd pick as well mate:nod:> > > > On the same lines of Sebsy and Timbo - I'd pick Happy Birthday:evil4:>

Since when has anyone bought a copy of 'Happy Birthday'?

On the Jam theme, Butterfly Collector was class, their best I reckon. On a b-side too.

did you not see the evil character having a laugh Sebsibidy?;) Butterfly collector - great b-side - but then again, they had quite a few good b-sides:nod:

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I actually played the synths on Crystal, so there is no need for me to wish i'd wrote it 'cos i did. :)

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hrrm. "Regret," cos it's indescribably gorgeous. "Jesus Shootin' Heroin," just because. :laugh: and "mmmbop!" so i could quash it in its infancy before it could spread! :violent:

...and i obviously need to put the guns away! :laugh:

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Dream Attack.

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REGRET-It really is a beautiful song!:) Ditto on that one Janaki-2:thumb: s up!

Funny thing is that I was so stuck on old New Order that I never gave REPUBLIC a chance until 3 years later! Some New Order fan I am huh? :(

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well, that might be cos most of the rest of Republic really isn't very good. :D

but i do rank "Regret" as one of the most gorgeous songs ever, and one of the most gorgeous they've ever written. there are other moments that are sometimes amusing on that album, but overall...wouldn't you say you weren't missing much? ;)

i found a copy for $2 or so, so i didn't feel i'd been ripped off. "Regret" alone is worth more than that. but i know i'm *really* ill and/or messed up in some other way when i can make it all the way through listening to that album without skipping over anything. :eek:

...er, that being said, how did you feel about it once you finally gave it a listen?

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Originally posted by janaki well, that might be cos most of the rest of Republic really isn't very good. :D

but i do rank "Regret" as one of the most gorgeous songs ever, and one of the most gorgeous they've ever written. there are other moments that are sometimes amusing on that album, but overall...wouldn't you say you weren't missing much? ;)

i found a copy for $2 or so, so i didn't feel i'd been ripped off. "Regret" alone is worth more than that. but i know i'm *really* ill and/or messed up in some other way when i can make it all the way through listening to that album without skipping over anything. :eek:

...er, that being said, how did you feel about it once you finally gave it a listen?

Hi Janni:hi: I must say that once I started to listen to it more, it really grew on me! There are a few songs that I skip over sometimes, depending upon my mood, but generally I think it is an album which was so different to me from what I was used to with NO that I automatically thought it was going to suck! I do like it however! Not their best album, but "Regret", "Price of Love" and "World" were all songs worth owning the album. Over the years, I like the album even more! :) Anyways, I bought it used and got it at discount when I was working at the record store! :lol I can't imagine my life without that album. I have some really great memories with the song "Regret." Republic is an album that takes me back in time.......:happytongue:

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The Monkey Gibbon, by the Goodies such an interesting Thread :square:

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Originally posted by Kimberly&nbspRaymond-Jensen Hi Janni:hi: I must say that once I started to listen to it more, it really grew on me! There are a few songs that I skip over sometimes, depending upon my mood, but generally I think it is an album which was so different to me from what I was used to with NO that I automatically thought it was going to suck! I do like it however! Not their best album, but "Regret", "Price of Love" and "World" were all songs worth owning the album. Over the years, I like the album even more! :) Anyways, I bought it used and got it at discount when I was working at the record store! :lol I can't imagine my life without that album. I have some really great memories with the song "Regret." Republic is an album that takes me back in time.......:happytongue:

heya Kim! :hi:

yeah, "World (The Price of Love)" grew on me, too. and sometimes a couple other songs are alright...but i'm overall not very fond of it as a whole. the thing that's the most painful on it probably is Barney rapping on that one awful song. :nonono:

but "Regret" is indeed unspeakably gorgeous...and i do indeed love it with all my heart. :love:

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Transmission LWTUA Temptation BLT

Other non-JD/NO songs Just Like A Woman-bobby Dylan Sweet Jane Let's Get It On Statue of Liberty-XTC Fake Plastic Trees Who Let the Dogs Out?

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Just thought about a few songs I wish I would have written, and that would be 1.SONIC YOUTH-Mote(one of the few songs that has major feedback that I can handle-lyrics are brilliant-was my teenage anthem) 2.THE THE-Love is stronger than death(It is just f-ing beautiful and true) 3.JD-Decades(when I would get depressed as a teen, that was played a lot) :lol: 4.THROWING MUSES-Hazing(so damn catchy) 5.KRISTIN HERSH-Echo(one of my faves by her) 6.CURVE-Worst Mistake(not released yet-I think it is a really raw, energetic song, lyrics are cool, and I like the drum loops and distorted quitar sounds in it) 7.Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds-Do you love me?(song that everyone wishes they wrote about the fun and painful thing we call LOVE)

Oh shit, Don't let Gnu find out that my damn list is turning into another top 10 list. Damn, I need help. :uhoh:

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love is stronger than death? even death will not erase the fucking damage and psychosis caused by love? well, poop.

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